AK - $2 stt

Second hand of the sng - Should I continue to bet on the turn? And if I don't should I be folding on the river?


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Sky229 (BTN): t1485 49.50 BBs
Friidayy (SB): t1515 50.50 BBs
ori9 (BB): t1500 50 BBs
aidan mc cabe (UTG): t1500 50 BBs
R0ss0ha (UTG+1): t1500 50 BBs
ifish45 (UTG+2): t1500 50 BBs
pokerjack2011 (MP1): t1500 50 BBs
stagebar (MP2): t1500 50 BBs
Hero (CO): t1500 50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is CO with K ♥ A ♣
4 folds, stagebar calls t30, Hero raises to t120, 3 folds, stagebar calls t90

Flop: (t285) Q ♦ T ♦ 5 ♥ (2 players)
stagebar checks, Hero bets t180, stagebar calls t180

Turn: (t645) 3 ♣ (2 players)
stagebar checks, Hero checks

River: (t645) A ♠ (2 players)
stagebar bets t645, Hero raises to t1200 all in, ......

I could be wrong but with a limp-call, I could possibly picture Q10 here or a flopped set. If they slow played the top two and the diamond draw didn't hit but the ace came on the river, if they had you on AK, they might think you'd call with TPTK.

Although, it's hard to say since you have no information on the player. I just doubt that they'd shove with a pair on the 2nd hand of the tournament.

I don't see an issue with the check on the turn given the circumstances but that's just how I see it, for what it's worth. And, yes, a fold would be appropriate on the river.

Early SNG you didn't hit no CB was required, call flop, period.Early in a SNG keep the pots small, the Villain probably made his hand on the turn and a river fold was required when he made that large bet.

Early on play small pots and preserve your fold equity.

I like the check on the turn, because I think if you bet there your gonna get re-raised. At least you got your card on the end. I would have definetly just called on the river, I can't figure out why you would push, the only hands that would call you in that situation will beat you, so bad push on the river. As for the river fold, I think not, call would be just fine for me.

I'm fine with the bet on the flop, this isn't exactly the driest of flops but we're heads up and can expect to take it down pretty often. I'll add that c-betting a little larger on wet boards is usually a good idea, draws will fold a little more often to a larger bet. After he calls the flop I think I'm checking back the turn too, if we c-bet again and don't succeed we've put almost half our stack into the pot with ace high. On the river this is a really tough call to make... He needs to be worse than us 33% of the time for this to be +cEV, more often than that when considering ICM... Ugh, it's probably a fold.

One thing that is interesting to consider is do we fire the river if he checks to us again? I'm sure most player's first instinct would be of course, we just hit TPTK, but I think upon further consideration we should check back again in that spot. Even if we don't hit the river, we might want to consider checking. The reason is he probably calls us again with most hands that beat us on the flop, but he won't call with hands we beat anyway, i.e. the draws. Basically, we aren't usually collecting any value by betting, and are "turning our hand into a bluff" most of the time.

Thanks for all the replies and opinions. This was a really tricky hand and when it was over I did feel like I played it wrong. For anyone wondering what the outcome was:

Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 932148
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Sky229 (BTN): t1485 49.50 BBs
Friidayy (SB): t1515 50.50 BBs
ori9 (BB): t1500 50 BBs
aidan mc cabe (UTG): t1500 50 BBs
R0ss0ha (UTG+1): t1500 50 BBs
ifish45 (UTG+2): t1500 50 BBs
pokerjack2011 (MP1): t1500 50 BBs
stagebar (MP2): t1500 50 BBs
Hero (CO): t1500 50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is CO with K ♥ A ♣
4 folds, stagebar calls t30, Hero raises to t120, 3 folds, stagebar calls t90

Flop: (t285) Q ♦ T ♦ 5 ♥ (2 players)
stagebar checks, Hero bets t180, stagebar calls t180

Turn: (t645) 3 ♣ (2 players)
stagebar checks, Hero checks

River: (t645) A ♠ (2 players)
stagebar bets t645, Hero raises to t1200 all in, stagebar folds

Final Pot: t1935

Hero wins t1935

I was really surprised that my opponent folded after betting such a large portion of his stack on the river.

I would have bet the turn.

When I start the betting, I keep the betting going.

Nice results btw, did you end up taking down the SnG?

But doesn't this make you exploitable? I will make a tarp for you!

Aggression is obviously important in winning poker, but timing it correctly is at least as important. In this situation when you are cbetting ace high there is the following information available by the turn.

1. We and our opponent have repped a certain range pre flop.
2. The flop was wet giving possible straight and flush draws.
3. Out cbet was flatted.
4. The pot is 650 on the turn.
5 We both have something like 1.2k left

So... from this we can derive that out opponent wants to stay in the hand. If he has any pair were beat. If he is drawing we might be ahead but not by much. We are NOT drawing to anything but TPTK. If we put even just half the pot in at the turn and get called we are essentially playing for stacks on the river. He checked to us, why not check back and see a free card? Then we can slink away quietly with most of our stack is a bad card comes, or play it as it was in the case of a miracle river, which we kinda got.

I think on the river the worst move was the allin, because the opponent would call only with better hand. But you were lucky we can say.

I would fold on the river in this situation.

Yes i agree with barnanag. What are you achieving by going all in? If he had 2 pair/str8 or the hand he was representing then hed call if he had nothing as he had he folds. You either win pot which youd win if just called or lose more chips. Reraise at the end was the wrong move. As for the guy saying he bets bets with ace king, your the type of played id love to play against just checking my trips back to you , waiting for you to throw more chips at me aggression is key, but at the right time and this sint 1 of them. you got 10 outs if he hasnt got trips,or 2 pair etc if he has you got 4 outs. you dont continue to bet with ace king.

I misread everything. I thought villain pushed all-in. Oops.