Ace Crap

#1 30th June 2008, 5:20 PM

What do you guys consider Ace Crap?

#2 30th June 2008, 8:28 PM

AA,AK,AQ,AJ are all playable to me. Everything else depends on position and players involved.

#3 30th June 2008, 8:53 PM

ACE + anything is just another card preflop, a shot in the dark, a chance or a guessing game at that point.
What I mean is Ive seen Aces lose without seeing the flop many times. The only time Its is an advantage is if you end hand with Ace high. We all know the ranking order of cards but preflop any card has chance of being in hand. Advantage of Ace greater closer to river. Simple and logical but some people play Ace + with wreckless abandon in Texas holdem freerolls.

#4 30th June 2008, 10:05 PM

Anything less than AJ, I consider trash, unless it's suited. It doesn't mean I never play them, just that the situations are rare.

#5 30th June 2008, 10:52 PM

Anything under A,10 I consider crap..... Oh and AQ os is crap too IMO.
Got burned too many times with that.

#6 30th June 2008, 10:59 PM

the cards dont matter as much as how u play them

#7 1st July 2008, 9:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lionheart527

What do you guys consider Ace Crap?

AQ can be crap, depending... while A5 can be $$, depending!

#8 1st July 2008, 10:17 AM

PF I can handle action if Im holding AK, AQ, anything less than that I start to consider I might be dominated by those two.
AJ and AT are overrated in my opinion

#9 1st July 2008, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lionheart527

What do you guys consider Ace Crap?

Look through these 3 pages, there are a few good threads on playing ace-rag Poker Forums - Search Results (http://www.cardschat.com/search.php?searchid=670766&pp=25)

#10 2nd July 2008, 2:35 AM

A with anything is an unimproved hand. Until you have something to match it a pair of dueces will beat it. Even the the alluring AK.

#11 2nd July 2008, 3:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pantin007

the cards dont matter as much as how u play them

Thank You Pantin, Perfectly worded.

#12 2nd July 2008, 3:51 AM

ace crap is when you poop in such a way that your opponent is unable to return it to your side of the court

#13 3rd July 2008, 2:18 AM

I've been playing lots of heads up lately... so the question really becomes: what do you consider ten-crap?

#14 5th July 2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantin007

the cards dont matter as much as how u play them

There's your answer. If you want to play by the book then anything under A10, if you want to win then use Pantin's advice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzExorcist

I've been playing lots of heads up lately... so the question really becomes: what do you consider ten-crap?

Ten-Who? You'll have to ask 4-and-a-halfBob about that one

#15 30th July 2008, 10:24 PM

ace rags get people into trouble at the start of tournaments. There isn't a need to play them at the early stages because of the risk of being outkicked. They are good to play from the blinds or the button for a limp but don't risk too much if an ace flops.

#16 1st August 2008, 11:37 PM

A and 9 below are pretty much useless, especially if you hit the A, gotta love a useless kicker. even a5 as a long shot for a straight usually doesn't work out well.

#17 2nd August 2008, 6:03 AM

I personally dont like ace crap, just because to me, its almost like playing with just one card, the ace.... lets say you have A4, if a four hits the flop, youve got bottom pair... even if an ace hits, you got bottom kicker most likely... of course, if your only against like 2 or 3 other people then its different

#18 2nd August 2008, 12:34 PM

A and anything is a good hand is what i think since its the highest card and all :d

#19 2nd August 2008, 2:01 PM

I agree with SnG. I only play lower than A,10 if I'm in good position. You have to love those players who play A,4 like they hit the bullets.

#20 2nd August 2008, 2:30 PM

As many others said - Depends on the the situation, players, how u play it, etc.

But in general and imo - Ace crap is not crap if you can limp in and hit. I usually consider AJ the breaking point - But even with AJ I wouldn't go crazy at preflop (more tham 3X BB). Been donked too many times raising on AJ just to see someone catch a straight with 6,8 or the like.

#21 2nd August 2008, 2:44 PM

I have lost with A crat so many time. out kicked. that I don't play anything lower that AJ unless suited or in BB. I Will play them when there only a few players on the table and in late position.

#22 2nd August 2008, 4:41 PM

you people play too tight
you need to learn how to play low cards like suited connectors

#23 2nd August 2008, 4:51 PM

when i get Aces i dont do as good as if i had a lower poket pair.Ace jack suited is still my favorite hand as it is good for a flush or a straight.

#24 2nd August 2008, 4:54 PM

It depends on the type of table you are playing. If i am at a pretty tight table i will raise with any ace because having an ace lessons your chance of running into a hand with another ace. plus they are an easy fold to a reraise and if they are suited good semi-bluffing hands. If i play a rag ace i prefer A-2 through A-5 because of the odds of making the wheel. i hat A-6 through A-9 because they get you into trouble unless i am in position i usually just fold these hands.

#25 3rd August 2008, 11:15 AM

I'd say AQ is a quality hand and AJ is probably the cut-off.. Its still a decent hand but be cautious because you could be beat a lot of times even if Ace hits the flop.. All the other hands you play depending on the situation.. Every hand can be played at the right moment.

#26 3rd August 2008, 4:15 PM

For me A 10 unsuited is the cut-off...anything less goes in the muck, unless the table is really passive, the A is suited, and I'm on the button or in the blinds. Even A 10 is marginal, as it can be easily dominated. Ace rag is a great hand if you like to put yourself in trouble situations, like being dominated, and losing to a higher kicker. Fold Ace rag ...another hand will be along in a couple of minutes!

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