Abuse at a table

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  #1
17th April 2009, 3:59 AM
Elliegurl
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Abuse at a table

So here's the thing.... I play online poker for fun, not profit. I win little prizes here and there and that's fine by me. I'll never be a pro...

But, it's very unsettling to be attacked by a stranger without being provoked. (Well, I guess they think I provoked them by winning the hand they believed belonged to them......) Unfortunately, I tend to attack back, even though I know this is stupid and childish.

What's the best way to handle abusive players during an online game?
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  #2
17th April 2009, 4:04 AM
aznman08
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem/HORSE
if hes trying to provoke you in chat ignore him. his mistakes are your profit and hes trying to get you to make bad plays, just ignore him. if he becomes racist you can always contact support about his chat abuse.

I know at Full tilt, whenever a players spams chat, their chat becomes disabled for a bit
  #3
17th April 2009, 4:11 AM
lexnat
 
Online Poker at: various
Game: all
there really is no right way to handle it other then ignore it

if u are only in it for fun then u must be playing freerolls and freerolls are basically the learning blocks and the problem with those is u have alot of new or so called "bad" players who are either super competitive or think that aces should never lose

truthfully no matter what stakes u play at there are going to be players belittling other players for there play u just have to take it with a grain of salt they probably want u to fire back because then u are worrying about what they say then paying attention to the table and the players around u and get u off your game
  #4
17th April 2009, 4:57 AM
motyennif
 
Poker at: FullTilt
Game: Holdem
Most of the time just ignore it. If it continues then you can disable his chat and not even see what he says. But depending on your mood, if you are in a happy mood and feel like having some fun, maybe come back with some funny remarks to throw him off his game, BUT be careful it doesn't go to extremes.
99% of the time I will ignore his chat.
  #5
17th April 2009, 5:14 AM
Machidon7
 
Online Poker at: carbon poker
Game: holdem
u should not pay any attention to him because all he wants is to damage your game and u should not give him that satisfaction ....if he crosses the line u should report him and his chat will be disabled for a short while (at least he won bother anyone else )and u will go on with your game
  #6
17th April 2009, 5:17 AM
beefcake413
 
Poker at: Bodog
Game: Holdem
I've had similar problems. I knocked someone out of a freeroll by calling them with the best hand postflop and this player stayed in the chat for an extra 30 minutes to harass me. Unfortunately I couldn't block them because they were no longer "at the table" and so I just had to ignore them. I fired back a little bit but eventually just ignored them. The only thing you can really do is email the admin of the site an give them the tournament # and the username and let them handle it.
  #7
17th April 2009, 7:56 AM
Roller
 
Game: NLHE
re: Abuse at a table poker

Dealing with Trash Talkers is part of Hold em.
Never let it effect your game.


If you want you can reply back.
But remember most times this is what they are looking for.
They want to effect your play in some way.




If you reply back I would suggest:
Short
Direct
Replies
If you get the nutzzz.
Provoke them in the proper way.
No Trash talk.
But challenge them.
Showing your intelligence not getting into a trash to trash chat.


Fire with Fire
But choose your words so you don't step out of bounce.

Or
Just ignore the chat or turn it off.

Either way make Hold em an enjoyable experience.
Don't let ever get to you.

  #8
17th April 2009, 8:01 AM
philthy
 
Poker at: PokerStars
Game: .10 MTTs
Bleh.

People do this kind of stuff because they have no life. They usually have nothing better to do and/or need to vent and need to find a good reason to. Or they're trying to stand up for a friend. Whatever.

The thing is no matter how well you play or how bad you play, you're always going to have someone hating on your game. I honestly don't care what people say as long as they don't take it too far. They can call me a donk or fish all they want. They can berate my game and tell me how much I suck and how bad I play all they want because it doesn't bother me. As long as they don't bring my family, religion, race, or anything non-poker related but offending into it, I'm fine. But if they do, I report them very fast.

All in all...if they're trash talking, let them. It's better for you because now you're in their head, you have them tilted. Don't let them do the same to you. I let my play to do my talking for me.
  #9
17th April 2009, 8:52 AM
kidkvno1
 
Online Poker at: Ultimatebet
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roller
Dealing with Trash Talkers is part of Hold em.
Never let it effect your game.


If you want you can reply back.
But remember most times this is what they are looking for.
They want to effect your play in some way.




If you reply back I would suggest:
Short
Direct
Replies
If you get the nutzzz.
Provoke them in the proper way.
No Trash talk.
But challenge them.
Showing your intelligence not getting into a trash to trash chat.


Fire with Fire
But choose your words so you don't step out of bounce.

Or
Just ignore the chat or turn it off.

Either way make Hold em an enjoyable experience.
Don't let ever get to you.

+1 I do it all the time when i am after fun, with play money, and then i start doing small pokes, and or beat them bad..... Use the chat to help your game, and don't let it get to you.... Heres a though i still have my chat on Ultimatebet even after i reported someone, for going over board and that after i told him to knock it off and some of my come backs were real good

Quote:
All in all...if they're trash talking, let them. It's better for you because now you're in their head, you have them tilted. Don't let them do the same to you. I let my play to do my talking for me.
+1
  #10
17th April 2009, 9:40 AM
nevadanick
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: stud
Always best to just let it go. If it continues, spend the time reporting it, not challenging it.

I've seen cases where ALL participants in offensive chat may get their privileges suspended. Even if one persoson was only 'slightly' involved, the sites feel that the actions of the 3 are disrupting the play of the remaining 6 or more.

You'll never get your chat suspended for reporting offenses - but THEY sure will for committing them. That's where 'the real last word' sees the light of day.
  #11
17th April 2009, 3:05 PM
JessyMoneyAA
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Lol i'ts just funny when someone is angry and provoke you . Just laugh about it . I do aswell and it's just even more funny if this guy play against you and try to bluff you when you got the nuts.
  #12
17th April 2009, 4:42 PM
Divebitch
 
Poker at: FT-PS-CBN-BD
Game: Horse/Omaha
Quote:
Originally Posted by beefcake413
this player stayed in the chat for an extra 30 minutes to harass me. Unfortunately I couldn't block them because they were no longer "at the table".
Sure you can. At Full Tilt, there is an options box in the upper right corner of your table. Click it and then uncheck the 'observer chat'. At Poker Stars, click on the dealer chips in the upper middle, and do the same thing.

To the OP, I tend to attack back, but never in anger. I often see it as a chance for a little more fun. Once I make the table laugh, they'll usually chime in right along with me. Of course, it helps not to play too badly, like calling bets to chase a straight when that's all you got. I don't report unless it is truly over the top. I figure they are suffering enough wallowing in their own bile.
  #13
17th April 2009, 5:42 PM
beefcake413
 
Online Poker at: Bodog
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Divebitch
Sure you can. At Full Tilt, there is an options box in the upper right corner of your table. Click it and then uncheck the 'observer chat'. At Poker Stars, click on the dealer chips in the upper middle, and do the same thing.

To the OP, I tend to attack back, but never in anger. I often see it as a chance for a little more fun. Once I make the table laugh, they'll usually chime in right along with me. Of course, it helps not to play too badly, like calling bets to chase a straight when that's all you got. I don't report unless it is truly over the top. I figure they are suffering enough wallowing in their own bile.

Unfortunately on Bodog once someone is knocked out they are no longer part of the table. I emailed them about it but don't think it's been fixed. Since they're technically not "at the table" you can't block them if they're just observing the table.
  #14
17th April 2009, 5:44 PM
c9h13no3
 
Poker at: Most of them
re: Abuse at a table poker

For me, I'll only abuse players that are regs, and only if I think I can get them to tilt. And even then, its pretty rare that I'll needle people at the table.

Most of the time, when you're getting abuse from someone, they just need to vent. Just ignore them & let them get it out of their system.
  #15
17th April 2009, 5:49 PM
evildoesit2003
 
Online Poker at: fultilt
Game: holdem
This has happened to me a lot sometimes they are just drunk and beligerant and your better off not saying anything even thought it is so hard I have actual holes in my tongue but the only thing I say sometimes is thats poker for ya.
  #16
17th April 2009, 6:01 PM
neil1603
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: holdem
Chat back at them, don't be insulting try and engage them in conversation I find it works well if you talk back to the as if they were a normal person (they aren't often) they end up not knowing what to do. I have to say I do try and say the odd strange thing but I try not to be insulting unless they push me too far.

They are doing it to try and tilt you, talking back often tilts them and I have no problem with that.
  #17
17th April 2009, 6:17 PM
razin-n-blazin
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt Po
Game: NL Holdem
put him on tilt

Putting an opponent on tilt is a useful weapon in no-limit holdem. If a player wants to trash talk because of a beat I put on him, then I know he is probably susceptible to tilting very easily too. I usually like to respond with an "lol" or "heehee". He will be ten times as angry once I laugh at his surly comments. Now I'm shooting fish in a barrel, because 99% of the time he's going to make a donkey play at me out of anger and get his money in bad just because he's steaming. The trick is making sure you have a good hand to go to war with. If you do that you'll stack Mr. Angry 99% of the time within 15-20 hands of the offending play.

Use his anger to your advantage. It's easier than you think.
  #18
17th April 2009, 9:12 PM
Tom1559
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
It can be very offputing when this happens. Try not to get involved but if you feel that somebody is getting to you switch off their chat.
  #19
17th April 2009, 9:26 PM
trucker103
 
Online Poker at: fulltilt
Game: holdem
just dont bother ignore the idiot and soon u will be at another table or he will be gone does make me laugh though when they become a stalker after they left and are now outside looking in i had a stalker on Ultimatebet and for 3 whole days he was at every table i went to lol he must of put me on his buddies list and it was all cause i went all in on a pair of 4s he had aces and caught my trips just play and have fun . he did give up though cause he got no response .
  #20
18th April 2009, 2:05 AM
Mr McCluskey
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
The other day a woman knocked a player out early in a nine man sng with an awfull play. For the next 20 or so minutes he berated her and wouldnt stop. I said forget it man go fire up another table but still he carried on so I said ok if you carry on Im going to call a moderator and then he said nothing.

All you can do is call a moderator if they keep talking trash they shall be chat banned.
  #21
18th April 2009, 2:17 AM
Ursala
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: HU NLHE
re: Abuse at a table poker

I got a tsk, tsk, tsk, last night (and a few other choice words) but I have been playing poker for long enough that it doesn't bug me in the slightest.

Sometimes I'll make a good catch, but that happens to everyone. If someone wants to tell me what a crappy player I am, I just don't pay attention. I'm doing my best and unless someone has constructive criticism on how I play, i am not really interested in what some anonymous player thinks of me.
  #22
18th April 2009, 2:33 AM
Elliegurl
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Thanks everyone.........a lot of good advice.
  #23
18th April 2009, 2:34 AM
kidkvno1
 
Online Poker at: Ultimatebet
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by nevadanick
Always best to just let it go. If it continues, spend the time reporting it, not challenging it.

I've seen cases where ALL participants in offensive chat may get their privileges suspended. Even if one persoson was only 'slightly' involved, the sites feel that the actions of the 3 are disrupting the play of the remaining 6 or more.

You'll never get your chat suspended for reporting offenses - but THEY sure will for committing them. That's where 'the real last word' sees the light of day.
If you watch on how you come back at them it will help, i should also tell you that theres a fine line, and Ultimatebet tends to suspended chat for the one who started it .
I thought my chat would be suspended, from poking back at the one who called gay, and i still have my chat. thought i did not used any cruse words
Quote:
Thanks everyone.........a lot of good advice.
Your welcome, just report it, and don't let it get to you.
  #24
18th April 2009, 1:07 PM
lektrikguy
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: HE/PLO/Razz
Let him rant and rave. If I get one of these guys I tend to poke a stick in the hive and get him really going. If he's on tilt it's easier to trap him if you happen to get a monster hand. I want guys on tilt-they're easier to drain chips off them that way. Remember the way you played that hand-he will think you're trying to donk out on him again and then go for the jugular. Poker is mental too, don't forget that you have to get into their heads.
  #25
18th April 2009, 1:19 PM
Dank Hugh
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Hold'm
the best way is to turn your chat off for 5-10 minutes.

dont even read the BS.
  #26
18th April 2009, 2:52 PM
Divebitch
 
Poker at: FT-PS-CBN-BD
Game: Horse/Omaha
Quote:
Originally Posted by beefcake413
Unfortunately on Bodog once someone is knocked out they are no longer part of the table. I emailed them about it but don't think it's been fixed. Since they're technically not "at the table" you can't block them if they're just observing the table.
At Bodog, you'll have to go to the main lobby. Click the 'preferences' tab, then the 'game details' tab. There, you check 'block observer chat'. Not sure if it blocks it right away, as I've never done it. I'd imagine that if you close the table, then reopen it, it should work.
  #27
18th April 2009, 3:26 PM
fergy05
 
Online Poker at: fulltilt
Game: holdem
I have tried to take the advice in the past of "Just Ignoring it", but I find that I end up very distracted just reading what is coming through and not paying full attention to the game (I play 3 or 4 games at a time, not much, but I am still just learning and I need to concentrate on all 4 games). Now I just disable the chat as soon as 2 or 3 comments have come in a row. I tend to miss out on all the childish comments and terrible grammar that often accompanies these comments and can be very entertaining, but I am there to play some poker and I need to concentrate on my game and find that very difficult with those distractions.
  #28
23rd April 2009, 10:15 PM
Bobmurphy07
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
re: Abuse at a table poker

I NEVER read chat. It's pointless. Ppl have said they came to my table and tried to talk and I just missed it because I could care less what's going on in the chatbox. That's how I avoid any insults.
  #29
24th April 2009, 1:05 AM
WEC
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem/Omaha
Not sure why many would say "report it"...Unless it was racist or threatening, why would you waste your time reporting it? Cause someone called you a donk, questioned your play

Its just a website--with chat--from a person you do not even know. Its meaningless words. Find some way to make it entertaining.

If you play at a live table the same banter goes on...do you ever watch poker on TV...Phil Helmuth (yuck)

Dont let it bother you...and in some cases pay attention and it may help your game in the long run.

Good Luck
  #30
24th April 2009, 1:21 AM
PooffyFooffy
 
Poker at: bodog
Game: Holdem
As said above if they are verbally attacking you, you do not need to respond you have already tilted them. Take that as satisfaction and let your play speak for you. I have been playing for a year and a half and have never reported anything except once the other day, an observer who a person at the table just busted out, started with racial slurs. Other that that have fun and don't let it get to you, that is what they are trying to do.
  #31
24th April 2009, 1:51 AM
Mission Man 56
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: All
I agree with most here in that it's best to try and ignore it and if anything pat yourself on the back for putting them on tilt. However, I once reported someone who stayed at the table and took to racial slurs and extreme profanity after I knocked them out of a tourney -- He was completely over the top with it, so I took down the tourney # and the hand #'s and reported him to the moderators. He was banned for a time, I forget how long.
  #32
24th April 2009, 3:20 AM
Theblueduce
 
Poker at: Where I win
Game: Hold EM
Simple....I put them on mute...and also the one or ones they are talikng to. I did not come there for that but to have fun like you mentioned.
  #33
24th April 2009, 3:32 AM
lcid86
 
Online Poker at: full tilt
Game: horse
ignore them and then take their chips!
  #34
24th April 2009, 10:07 AM
Bren
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Holdem
I mute them. Makes the game simple and quiet.
  #35
24th April 2009, 1:34 PM
dropdead1
 
Online Poker at: ultimate bet
Game: holdem
re: Abuse at a table poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divebitch
Sure you can. At Full Tilt, there is an options box in the upper right corner of your table. Click it and then uncheck the 'observer chat'. At Poker Stars, click on the dealer chips in the upper middle, and do the same thing.

To the OP, I tend to attack back, but never in anger. I often see it as a chance for a little more fun. Once I make the table laugh, they'll usually chime in right along with me. Of course, it helps not to play too badly, like calling bets to chase a straight when that's all you got. I don't report unless it is truly over the top. I figure they are suffering enough wallowing in their own bile.
Very very well said. I have actually seen you at the tables and must say that you always add a bit of humour to the game. Its great, perhaps I can follow your advice and not be so hot headed in future and maybe just approach the situation with humour.
 



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