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| 2 Hands I want you to Look at First hand is Not the Greatest But What I'm looking to Find out about the hand is How I played the Hand, I'm also Looking to Find out If My Raise was Warranted on the Flop or Should I have Taken a Different Approach To the Hand? I'm asking these Questions So I can Figure out better ways to Minimize my "Spewy" Ways and Become better The Question I want answered is Do you call the Preflop Raise or Let it go? Do you bet the Flop or Do You C/R as I did? I did the C/R in Order to Gauge where I was At in the Hand Rather then C/C down with it because If I just C/C down and on the Turn if Villain shoved A.I I wouldn't know exactly were I'm at so For this Reason I knew A C-Bet was in Order and It was coming from him and I wanted to Find out where I stood and That's Why I did Exactly what I did...FYI I would have Folded had Villain Shoved A.I on the Flop or bet big on the Turn.... 2nd Question Are we Good Enough To Raise that River, Personally I thought I could Raise the River But Should I worry about Him Possibly Showing up with the Nuts Ever? Or would it be just over all Safe to Just Call it? View hand 1347822 DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter MP: t2342 15.61 BBs CO: t10222 68.15 BBs BTN: t3943 26.29 BBs SB: t2897 19.31 BBs Hero (BB): t15770 105.13 BBs UTG: t15223 101.49 BBs UTG+1: t3030 20.20 BBs Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is BB with 7 ♣ Q ♣ UTG raises to t300, 2 folds, CO calls t300, 2 folds, Hero calls t150 Flop: (t975) 2 ♦ 7 ♦ 4 ♣ (3 players) Hero checks, UTG bets t450, CO folds, Hero raises to t1000, UTG calls t550 Turn: (t2975) A ♣ (2 players) Hero checks, UTG bets t900, Hero calls t900 River: (t4775) T ♣ (2 players) Hero checks, UTG bets t1350, Hero raises to t4275, UTG raises to t13023 all in, Hero calls t8748 The 2nd Hand I want you all to Help me with is this Hand Which I'll post.. My Questions for the Hand is A) Raise preflop How Much Should I make it? Or is this Raise Just about Right? B) Is the RR on the Flop is it Warranted or Should I just CC down on the Flop? I RR on the Flop to actually make my Hand Seem alot Stronger then it was, and To also Find out where I stood, and Possibly get a Free Card on the Turn? 2nd) Should I have bet the Turn Rep-ping a Big Hand or Is the Check A Good Idea? I'm asking because of all the times I'll end up Missing the Rivers, so In that case it would Help with my Bluff Line correct? Try to Rep a Higher 2 pair type of Idea, what do you all think about that? 3rd) Question for this Hand is, Is my Value Bet On the River 2 low? Or Should I have just Elected to Call, but because of the Way the Hand Played out I didn't think it was possible for my Opponent to have an 8 unless I'm mistaken in it, so There-Fore Should if you say Raise Bigger on the River how Much? Poker Stars $0.23+$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players - View hand 1347829 DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter MP2: t4880 24.40 BBs CO: t6993 34.97 BBs Hero (BTN): t30768 153.84 BBs SB: t6875 34.38 BBs BB: t2117 10.59 BBs UTG: t2805 14.03 BBs UTG+1: t20124 100.62 BBs MP1: t8110 40.55 BBs Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BTN with A ♣ K ♦ 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t200, 2 folds, CO calls t200, Hero raises to t768, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls t568, CO calls t568 Flop: (t2604) 8 ♣ 4 ♠ 8 ♦ (3 players) UTG+1 bets t800, CO folds, Hero raises to t2000, UTG+1 calls t1200 Turn: (t6604) 5 ♠ (2 players) UTG+1 checks, Hero checks River: (t6604) K ♣ (2 players) UTG+1 bets t200, Hero raises to t1200, UTG+1 calls t1000 |
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I dont like the flop raise, generally by doing this you fold out hands worse than yours and better will continue. Do not raise to see where you are, raise when you think you have the best hand and your opponent will call with worse or you think they will fold better. Here villain is rarely folding a better hand and is rarely calling with worse. The only worse I can see calling is someone chasing a flush draw. On the river getting all-in on the river is what you want, only the K high flush beats you. |
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I probably just call the flop but im not to sure if raising is good or not. Do you always check the turn with nothing after showing a lot of aggression on the flop? I mean why not continue with the aggression and bet the turn? It doesnt look like they have an 8 as they would likely have tried to get it in on the flop or at least bet the turn. I would have raised bigger on the river, at least half pot. |
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| MP: t2342 15.61 BBs CO: t10222 68.15 BBs BTN: t3943 26.29 BBs SB: t2897 19.31 BBs Hero (BB): t15770 105.13 BBs UTG: t15223 101.49 BBs UTG+1: t3030 20.20 BBs Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is BB with 7 ♣ Q ♣ UTG raises to t300, 2 folds, CO calls t300, 2 folds, Hero calls t150 Flop: (t975) 2 ♦ 7 ♦ 4 ♣ (3 players) Hero checks, UTG bets t450, CO folds, Hero raises to t1000, UTG calls t550 Turn: (t2975) A ♣ (2 players) Hero checks, UTG bets t900, Hero calls t900 River: (t4775) T ♣ (2 players) Hero checks, UTG bets t1350, Hero raises to t4275, UTG raises to t13023 all in, Hero calls t8748 I would of folded this hand pre flop to be honest. You dont really want to get involved with the other big stack. Its better to pick on the medium stacked players as they are more likely to fold against a raise, as they are looking to double up. As you checked the flop i would not of c/r your opponent. I probably would of called and seen the turn myself, and the re evaluate your options. Correct play on river as the chances of him having the nut flush are slim and i dont think he could put you on a flush the way you played your hand. |
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As to the River Bet I thought that really If I made it much More then a 1k my Opponent wouldn't have called but that's why I'm here asking for advice... thx for the Tips btw Last edited by naruto_miu : 20th June 2011 at 5:28 PM. |
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| MP2: t4880 24.40 BBs CO: t6993 34.97 BBs Hero (BTN): t30768 153.84 BBs SB: t6875 34.38 BBs BB: t2117 10.59 BBs UTG: t2805 14.03 BBs UTG+1: t20124 100.62 BBs MP1: t8110 40.55 BBs Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BTN with A ♣ K ♦ 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t200, 2 folds, CO calls t200, Hero raises to t768, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls t568, CO calls t568 Flop: (t2604) 8 ♣ 4 ♠ 8 ♦ (3 players) UTG+1 bets t800, CO folds, Hero raises to t2000, UTG+1 calls t1200 Turn: (t6604) 5 ♠ (2 players) UTG+1 checks, Hero checks River: (t6604) K ♣ (2 players) UTG+1 bets t200, Hero raises to t1200, UTG+1 calls t1000 i would raised a little bit more pre flop with 2 limpers and would of flat called the raise on the flop but as you re raised him on the flop then you should of bet the turn. I would of probably raised a little bit more at the end as it seemed unlikely he had 8 the way the hand played. |
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| As for myself, I believe that seanDCFC answered as I would have.(for the most part). In the first hand I would see a flop to a min-raise on my BB with the intention of either flopping some decent draw or letting go if I whiff. I believe the stacks are deep enough for this line. I would have no problems getting it all-in on the river, and Honestly, would have bet similar to you to induce the shove. (I'm not sure if you wanted to induce a fold with that raise, but if you did, I feel it was a bit too small) With the second hand, I feel the pfr was too small. I'd go 1100 or so. The flop raise was good, but you should have continued on the turn if your read felt your opp didn't have an 8 (which is unlikely, given the lead-out. Most players would c/c or c/r flopped trips). The river K probably didn't change much. You are more than likely ahead the whole time. I think your river bet was a bit too small for a value bet, given the pot size at that point. Could have gone 2500-3200, unless of course you still felt there was a possibility that your opp did indeed have an 8 based on prior reads. |
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| re: 2 Hands I want you to Look at poker The 2nd hand, now I would say raise more if you think he was bluffing. Then on the turn as well you shouldn't have checked. If you raised more on the flop and put in a well-sized bet you could have easily taken the pot down right then and there. What happened in both hands, did you win or lose? |
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| 1st hand; if CO doesn't come along, I drop this mediocre hand, but since the CO did come along, he gave me 5.5 - 1 odds on a 4-1 hand...Still not thrilled, but eh? Its poker, I call preflop some of the time. You weren't good enuf to stay in this hand with a mere 7 top pair, but you hung, which says somethin...??? What does your cr flop tell you? From a subjective POV, it looks like you could be walking into a trap, big overpair, which fit the villains betting story. Turn call is probably standard considering stack sizes and prior commitment to see this hand thru. But would you have called if villain potted the turn? I would never give villain credit for having the nut flush here....never. In my whole life, the nut flush will only show up like 3 times in this situation. U filled your flush and got villain to commit his stack. Great, could not have worked better. I get the feeling here that it really didn't much matter, villain hit his set, and the board doesn't pair, you win it all. 2nd hand; No need to reraise. TUG+1 bet the flop, suggesting highly to me he has an overpair, or an 8, slim possiblity of him having 44 but can't see anyone answering a good raise PF with any naked 4. So you are sort of semi-bluffing,, and as long as you understand that you can do these things. Turn is checked down...fine. He is probably hoping you will hang yourself. good not to do it for him. River, you hit, but good enuf? I think you might have gone 1/2 pot for the raise, but you created questions in villains mind that have him wondering, so much bigger than this might give him pause to call. Last edited by dj11 : 2nd July 2011 at 4:54 AM. |
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