.02/.05 tables

Are these much harder than 1/2 cent tables? I've noticed on pokertableratings that a lot of guys have positive results at the 1/2 cent tables but are big losers at 2/5 cent.

Not much harder, same kinds of fish. Wont really see a difference till about 10nl

The only thing I notice is that the max buy-in at 2c/5c is the same as 5c/10c on most sites ($10). IMO, this makes for a bit more loose-passive play. Kind of like every table plays like a deep stack table. Lots of check-calling to the river.

I play 1c/2c, 2c/5c, and 5c/10c. I think the biggest difference is psychological. At each of them, I see people who are (to me) passably decent (read: play like I do), and some who are awful (read: throwing chips at anybody with more than 3 connected neurons). A handful of short stackers and rocks as well. At all of them you have to keep your eyes open and know who's who. Totally messes with my watching TV on hulu. :/

Honestly, I feel like the play at 10nl is worse. Non-idiots/rocks/short stackers are about the same, but the total nut jobs are really total nut jobs. I'm guessing that people at the really, really micros tend not to have much of a BR, so try not to spew quite so badly. Maybe 10nl's the level where you start to get the guys who don't care so much about the money.

RF

I switched to 02/.05 tables and am getting killed. -$15 in less than 1000 hands. (I was about 10 BB per 100 hands at 1/2 cent tables.

Several bad beats got me but even without them I would only be about even, which isn't gonna cut it. Playing bad. I really gotta rethink what I am doing instead of tilting.

Two times in a row with QQ ran into 10 J and both times the other guy hit two pairs on the river.

The micro tables are hard.
A small buy in allows people to play a lot of hands and it's not unusual to see 4-5 people take a flop.
That makes it difficult.
The range of hands being played on a micro table, especially preflop can be VERY wide.

Remember some of the basic rules of good poker
Raise if you have a hand worthy of playing, a limp just invites more people into the hand.
Position is important but on a micro stakes table, a good starting hand is more important (IMO)
People will call with just about anything so make sure you have something to start with.

Post flop is a different matter, if you hit it, then bet it.
Trying to trap can be dangerous and bluffing is even more so.

Micro stakes brings out most of the fishes and the fisherman!
They will call that gut shot, the flush draw and even play a small pair to over cards and as you mentioned that will hit it sometimes.
And then they think they are playing good poker so they're not going to stop.

Wait to you get that strong pocket pair, or hit a great flop and then take their money, eventually you will see a good return.

How much you can win/lose at this kind of tables ? Let's be serious...I think this tables are just for learning to play Cash Game you can't have a big profit or a big lose.

It's not hard at all to donk off a lot of money at these tables, relative to the buy in, of course. It'd be hard to lose $1000 in a hurry. It's a really bad day for me if I lose 3 buy-ins. In general, it's easy to lose fast and hard to win fast. To win fast, you have to find some idiot who plays really badly and keeps reloading. To lose fast, you just have to be that idiot.

RF

Yep I was that idiot. I've made my way back somewhat, but I am still down about $3 since I moved to 2/5 cent. I am having better success now just letting them steal my blinds and play more fundamental poker.

I overplayed my A5 two pairs and ran into a set of 5's. The guy led out with a pot size bet on the flop so I had put him on an ace. Just calling him would have taken most of my stack anyway, so I moved all in and lost it all.

I busted out twice with all in QQ shoves. Both times against 10J and they both hit two pairs each time. The first time I just gave my coins away as I was too aggressive with 3 undercards on the flop. The second time it was a preflop short stacked shove.

I can't beat the .2/.5 blinds since i sit with $5.00 and lost probably like $3 and that was my only bankroll try doubleing it up but didn't cause i couldn't win anything with my big hands like i get pocket QQ and low stake goes allin with AJ offsuit and he get lucky the flop KJA turn 10 river J like What damn river lol

So i can only beat is .1/.2 blinds that funny oh well lol

Stick to where you're comfortable playing. If you're having a tough go at 5NL.. stick with 2NL where ur doing well and build your bankroll (& experience) to where you're comfortably rolled for playing 5NL (without focusing on your bankroll).
I haven't played much 2NL so I couldn't tell you what the differences are. I do know that there are alot of regs. in 5 & 10NL on Fulltilt (some are quite good). Tables seem to have ALOT better players in the micros on Fulltilt compared to anyother site I've played on.

The only dif i see at 0.02/0.05 is that more people decide to buy-in full ($10) and there is a little bit more raising pre-flop.
Didnt like 0.01/0.02 much as there was loads of limpers and callers who will chase anything for $1/$2. Where as if they have $5+ behind them they usally think a little bit more. Trust me, I have more profit playin NL5 than NL2. Allmost rolled for NL10.
But play in what ur comfotable in and stick to BRM. No point in diving into 0.02/0.05 when u only have a bankroll of $40 because varience is a bitch and will hit back at ya to loose a few buy-in's. Jus keep on grinding and learning mate, this forum has lots of great people who will help ya and show ya great threads to read about cash games.

Good luck!

to me there about the same at pokerstars but on full tilt people are alot tighter then the 01./02

I just recently started playing the .02/.05 games at FT, trying to get the bonus. I am fairly new to cash games so I have little to compare. I find you must use basic fundamentals at these tables. If you don't have a decent starting hand, don't get into it. If you have a good hand, get in the hand,cautiously aggressive. Be aware of overcards on the board,as I find alot of players at these levels like to trap and check/call. The most important thing is to not be afraid to fold a hand. Pick your spots to "steal" pots, it is definately possible.
I find these games to be highly educational and you can lose your buy in very quickly if you are not careful. I have done well playing these limits, doubled my BR from $27 to $55 since mid December

If you have QQ/AKs and up get them (try for only one opponent) all in preflop, everything else (lower pocket pairs, suited connectors etc.) try to see cheap flops, if you hit a flush or a straight, it doesnt really matter how many people saw the flop with you, you're probably going to win. Micro can be tough still, try not to risk more than ten percent of your BR, even five percent if you can manage it.

imho no diff, in FR and 6max, ive noticed a lil more agg in FR actually but nothing worth worrying bout, just keep playin ABC until around 25nl....

I think I have gotten my footing now, made it back to even after getting killed the first few hundred hands. I lost a few buy ins quickly and then just got too impatient to get it back, and was playing small pairs and KJ KQ type of hands out of position.

I could not believe this guy calls me with ace high on the river. Unbelievable. How could ace high be good? I was giving him 4:1 to call, but it's obvious I had something.

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 451406
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $2.53
BTN: $3.15
SB: $6.67
BB: $3.00
UTG: $2.50
MP: $8.85

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with 9 ♦ T ♦
1 fold, MP calls $0.05, Hero calls $0.05, BTN calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, BB checks

Flop: ($0.25) 6 ♣ 7 ♦ 5 ♦ (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.15, MP calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, BTN raises to $0.30, SB folds, BB folds, MP calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

Turn: ($1.30) 3 ♦ (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, MP folds

River: ($2.30) K ♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, BTN calls $0.80

Final Pot: $3.90
Hero shows 9 ♦ T ♦ (a flush, Ten high)
BTN mucks A ♥ 8 ♠
Hero wins $3.75
(Rake: $0.15)

I think you did everything right there... the button was stupid to call that raise at the end but hey, you profited!

Yeah! It is also similar " Fishing ". In 1/2 fishing wont cost you much even with the 8,10bb(only about 20c) but when comes to 2/5 fishing is always killing (50c) and ppls keep on calling the bets and lost. This makes it looks like an harder (means losing money) than 1/2. But these are good earnings when you are good.

THis is what my graph looks like. The damn drop off the cliff coincides with switching to 2/5c. Luckily didn't stay in the valley for too long.

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How do you make a graph like that?

Go to that website you see in the graph. Then search for your ID. Very cool site.

Thanks a lot man that is badass....

Not everyone is looking to gamble with huge amounts of money. I play them for the fun of it. And still make a little money and points.

I imploded again but managed to come back again. I think I am finally getting the hang of this slightly higher level. I've stopped playing tight and reraising to represent a big hand to bully people out of pots (doesn't work at these levels). I am playing more conservatively and most opponents usually don't try to steal pots. The implosion was a result of big pocket pairs getting busted on the river 3 times. Playing better than I was the first time I went to 2c/5c.

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the biggest difference for me as someone else said was psychological. More money at the table sort of freaked me out. Also i noticed that more people are more aggressive than they were at 2nl

Great Post!

I don't think there is any difference at all between .02, .05 or .10. It's all the same animal... The Donkey!

youve played 10k hands and are up $33?

NL5 is pretty easy mate. make sure ur properly bankrolled tho. the swings/idiots in these levels are bad.

after playing alittle in the 02./.05 i found that i do better then the .01/.02 profit wise i came out with 2.00 on this. I think it how and who you play with that works

I played 6600 hands at 2cNL. I am about even at 5c NL after 3500 or so hands... I thought people were just trying to run me over and played too aggressively with top pairs.

he has straight, not ace high
thats way better, anyway you had a strongest hand

about the difference of playing, i cant give an opinion as im not very experienced about it, my way to win by now is being tight, have brm, and not going on tilt

No he doesnt have a straight, he has 5678... he needs a 9 or a 4 to have a straight.

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Table section is pretty key with the mirco stakes. I doing well at .2 .5 .... But I have found that table section is key to making more money!