Help needed- got 2 accounts on PS and want to cash out- can i?

ok i begin my story along time ago (saturday) when i came second in the cardschat freeroll, winning $28. (i lost to DJ but man hes good). i then started entering the sunday hundred grand satellites (i figured i only need to win 1 in 5 to break even) and got up to $80. I then entered the triple shootout to the sunday million and won so right now im soo happy, my lucks come in after weeks of bad luck on the play money tables- how they seem so long ago!

so now im thinking of cashing some of it out. Two problems arise here:
1) i have 2 accounts because i was only 17 when i first started and its in my mums name, i then set up another one but the details are all false. I did this because when the stopped the UK freerolls every night they still did the USA ones so i put my country as USA in the registration. sometimes i flick between the two if i see they have USA only ones (this happened on saturday, i played as the false account)- do they track IP addresses? ive seen things about this but dont really know.
2) i have $257 in tournament dollars and cant transfer to the real account unless i pay a minimum of $197, is it worth trading with and internet site (ive seen i can get 98%) then transfer the rest of this money to go with the $42 in cash i have done just now?

basically what im asking is if i transfer all my money to the real account will they stop me from having this? if i dont the cheque will go to USA and be in a different name.

Thanks for your help

Seems strange that PS didn't notice you provided a US address, but logged on with a UK IP address.

yeah i t does seem strange but they will most def catch it when money is leaving not so much coming in

Your right, they will be ok with the address conflict until he attempts to cash out.

What about changing the info? People do move around the world these days...

Cant you transfer it between your accounts?

Quite honestly, I think you royally screwed yourself on this one.
No sympathy here as you shouldn't have opened a poker account while underage in the first place.
To be young and naive, glad I'm not there.

someone is in a bit of a pickel
ok well i know these things probably happen a lot but i really wonder how pokerstars has not caught on to this.
u should just email pokerstars now and tell them the whole situation because ur going to get banned and by telling them, they might take it a bit easier on you [highly doubt it tho]
well u live and u learn

This reflects my thoughts as well. Sorry to be harsh, but yeah, you're S.O.L. There are reasons why they have terms and conditions that you are supposed to follow when signing up an account, and I think you broke.....well, all of them. Your own fault really. Maybe next time you'll do things on the up-and-up, and not try to get one over.

OK i have thoguht of something that may help you out.....and it may not work..others can let me know if this is wrong or not possible.....but I would transfer the funds to a friend then create a new account in your name with all the correct info...then tell him to transfer it back you might get caught but other than that youll never get your cash!!

You get a friend to play at a HU NL cash table against you,

And you loose your money to him,

and than your friend takes out your money and give it to you in cash.....


This is the only 100% secure way I think you can do this.

Or you could just transfer it to him...

Gee... a THIRD account...wouldn't that just make matters even worse? (if that's possible)

Hmmm....chip dumping ....yep it IS possible to make things worse! Your FRIENDS account would them be screwed too

you MIGHT get away with calling and explaining...doubt it though....if you have a friend with an account you MIGHT talk them into giving you cash for the transferred amount...take the $$ and open just 1 account.... on another site.

why are yall trying to help him, he tried to cheat the poker site and he deserves to face the consequences, maybe next time he plays poker on another site he would actually obey the terms and conditions

tu didnt think abotut that.....

I would never suggest doing this of course, but as a thought problem a person could get a prepaid credit card, enter details matching the account in question and open a epassporte account with the same details except for address which would be real, then transfer the money out. There'd be a fair number of fees for that however because the person would probably want to get the debit card from epassporte to spend the money easily as the check information would be different and banks might take notice, though if it were countersigned by a person who didn't exist and then 'given' to the person who did exist to cash I doubt anyone would complain as the other person doesn't exist. Then one could ask them to close any false accounts without giving a reason and open an account with that person's real information, it might be good to get a new IP when opening the new accounts however. And one never knows when it might be handy to have a debit card with a false name on it.

I agree completely. Assisting in more cheating to correct cheating (an oxymoron at best) is aiding the cheats. Think folks! After the other threads about content here being posted on other forums, wouldn't this be a nice juicy tidbit for someone to pick up on.

The headlines now: " See how they do it on Cardschat " ...

Ok, first off, you shouldnt have been a freeroll whore and stuck with one account.

Now, I will try to help you. Email Stars on the fake name you have from the email that you registered that name with and tell them you want the account closed. If they ask questions, just say you dont want to play poker or something like that. Then you should be good. If the money is in the fake account, have a friend make an account and transfer it to him/her, then close the fake account, and have them send it to your real one. Hope this helps!

I think you could fix this fairly easily. I don't know if this will work necessarily but I would make an Epassporte account. I'd do a test withdrawal from Pokerstars to your functional Epassporte account and see if it gets accepted. You stated that you couldn't transfer that money because you've yet to deposit but I don't think you have to have the same name/information to transfer to Epassporte.

If this does work, then you are probably going to have to make a deposit for that amount and then cash it out once the time window clears. This is all in theory but I've heard that you can cash out into other epassporte accounts (like if you're signed up for PokerXfactor or Cardrunners). Hopefully that works. Otherwise I'd try the other withdrawal methods that Pokerstars offers if there are any other online transfer methods.

GL

I'm sorry, I don't want to be mean, but, come ON you guys! It's kids like this guy that do dumb stuff like this that are the reason the "moral majority" is trying to outlaw online poker in the US. Let's not forget that he also broke the law (I don't know anywhere where gambling under 18 is legal), not to mention commited a certain degree of fraud. You guys with your solutions are only pacifying this behaviour by offering more fraudulent alternatives...

Yes, you will be able to withdraw just fine....unless they do get suspicious.

I have known people with 2 accounts in one household (not to the extreme of 2 different countries though) and they have been able to cash out just fine :\

Go to a heads up table, play against yourself. Win with the account that is in your moms name ie does not have false information. Don't set up 2 accounts EVER AGAIN. Reason, the sites will disallow your wins if they find out, Check out JJprodigy on google and what happened to his 140k win.

Just transfer the $ to your real account with real address and so on.
You will soon know when you try to cash out.
Once you try cash out you will get an email saying members are only allowed 1 account and any $ you have will be sent back to the original account you joined with.
I'd advise you be honest and tell them the situation,you prob will only be allowed use the account you signed up with but you will have to change it and enter all real info.
They won't ban you or anything until it happens a 2nd time so whatever your original account is all $ will be sent there and you will have to enter all the real details to be able to cash out and of course they may take back any $ that were used with the fake account.

LOCK THIS THREAD, IT'S JUST THE BLIND LEADING THE UTTERLY STUPID.

First off you broke like a million rules here. That said, your best shot (and the most legal compared to these other "solutions" that only compound the problem) is to email pokerstars support. Ask them to change your details, don't say anything else. Just ask them to change your address to [whatever it is now] and name, DOB, etc.

And next time don't break the rules and expect to be bailed out. Even if you try this one most likely it's not going to work because it'll be obvious that you broke their terms to play in freerolls you weren't allowed to play in, but please don't do something stupid like create a 3rd account and don't chip dump, use the transfer if anything, chip dumps are so easily detectable.

Actually just transfer it to me, I'll send it to you (sarcasm, please don't actually do this).

well, my two pence worth, try some honesty.

contact pokerstars and explain the situation. Think of it as AK vs 55 - you're probably about a 50-50 chance to get your money.

G

actually, have just read this thread:

I ripped off PokerStars

and it seems as though honesty is definitely the right way to go.

you may even be 60-40 now.

gl

G

Not only did he break the law and the rules, he got his mom involved...did anyone read that he made an account in her NAME? If he gets caught, it will fall on her as well......what an ass

I didn't read all the replies, but this one caught my attention because I totally agree with the response. I would even be a little more heavy handed.
Let's see:

1. You cheated and began playing on-line poker when you were underage on your mom's account.
2. You cheated and set up a fictious second account with false information.
3. You cheated and entered freeroll tournaments that you had NO right in entering as they were NOT for the country in which you live. NOR could you claim that you were a US-citizen living abroad.

So, to me I see 3 strikes and you're out. I guess the old adage of "Cheaters never win" will hopefully apply here. You do not deserve to receive any of your ill-gotten gains.
Hopefully this will be a somewhat inexpensive lesson for you.

I don't see how he was cheating as far as poker goes, he was obviously misrepresenting himself, but he presumably didn't artificially manipulate odds, play multiple accounts in the same tournament, or collude. If you go into a live poker room and tell them that you're 385 years old and live in Chile and your name is Mary Poppins, then play poker is that cheating? While some people may think it's wrong playing in a tournament intended for people from another country, IMHO I think discriminating against people based on their nationality (or age for that matter) is f'ed up.

Well he was playing illegally, it's more like going into the casino with a fake ID. He was underage and it's illegal for people underage to play. While I still maintain the law should be that if you're old enough to spend money on candy, you should be able to spend your money on poker, the law doesn't agree with me and the law is that what he did is downright fraud.


But it's perfectly within their rights to do this as a company, and they don't have to ask for your opinion. Circumventing this is illegal and again, fraud.

Right it's fraudulent but it's not cheating, the game's still fair. If he was using a superuser account than I'd be pissed.

Where's EL KA-BONG when you need him ?

No sympathy here

Email support and take your lumps dude.