Can We still Cashout AS U.S. players

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  #1
28th January 2009, 9:21 PM
phdnbs1
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
Can We still Cashout AS U.S. players

I was told by a friend that as of this week, we in the US are not allowed by law to cash out or winnings. Anyone heard differently or not what is exactly going on?
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  #2
28th January 2009, 9:26 PM
iveyrocks21
 
Poker at: FTP
Game: Hold em
You may cash out, but it is getting harder and harder. Each site has there own rules, I would recommend contacting each site for their rules, guidelines, and options for US players.
  #3
28th January 2009, 9:31 PM
Nikeballa07
 
Online Poker at: PS and FT
Game: NLHE,Ohi,O8
"On September 26, 2008, Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) introduced S.3616, the Internet Skill Game Licensing and Control Act. This bill would amend title 31, United States Code, to provide for the licensing of Internet skill game facilities, and for other purposes. This is the first bill related to online skill games that has been introduced in the Senate.[21]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_gambling

more info here too actually

http://www.cardschat.com/us-poker-sites.php
  #4
29th January 2009, 1:58 AM
tpb221
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
From what I understand, and I could be wrong, it's depositing money on the sites that will be dificult. If the sites pay you money, US banks will still have to honor it. The law says they can't transfer money to gambling sites.
  #5
29th January 2009, 2:29 AM
kevrose
 
Online Poker at: Poker Stars
Game: Hold Em
re: Can We still Cashout AS U.S. players poker

I was wondering that myself. It would totally suck to put in a few hundred bucks, try to cash out at grand only to be told you cant. I have deposited on FT and PS, but as of now, no where near that grand. LOL. They sure took my money easy so surely they will be able to deposit it back right? Thanks for any info!!
  #6
31st January 2009, 7:58 PM
MeTim
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: omaha H/L
Cash out policy

Quote:
Originally Posted by phdnbs1
I was told by a friend that as of this week, we in the US are not alllowed by law to cash out or winnings. Anyone heard differently or not what is exactly going on?
Most sights US players must cash out recieveing a check. Visa and mastercard restrictions, Ck out my blog about Players only cash out policy. It is close to the other sights policy although the fees vary

PLayers only Free roll funds and cash out policy

Last edited by MeTim : 31st January 2009 at 7:59 PM. Reason: correction
  #7
31st January 2009, 10:23 PM
stellerteller
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Razz
What the flip, kip? I mean what is so wrong with being a good upstanding citizens who just so happens to like to stay at home and gamble? I can hop in my car and drive down to the Eagles and do the same flippin' thing!

Oh, BTW, I haven't hear anything, yet. Will do some research.
  #8
1st February 2009, 2:37 AM
puppyfeet
 
Poker at: bodog,Pokerstars
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikeballa07
"On September 26, 2008, Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) introduced S.3616, the Internet Skill Game Licensing and Control Act. This bill would amend title 31, United States Code, to provide for the licensing of Internet skill game facilities, and for other purposes. This is the first bill related to online skill games that has been introduced in the Senate.[21]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_gambling

more info here too actually

http://www.cardschat.com/us-poker-sites.php

But the guy on the othere thread said that "Bush and his cronies" were responsible for anti-online gaming bills??? This bills sponsor is a Democrat!

Does it not stand out to anybody else that the guy who introduced this bill is from New Jersey, a state that has legal casinos and is probably feeling in in the pocketbook from revenues they are losing b/c folks can stay home and gamble instead of driving to Atlantic City?? What bullshit hypocrisy-it's immoral for you to gamble, unless you're doing it where the politicians can get a chunk of the money, like B&M casinos, lotto, horse tracks, bingo parlors, etc. Utter and complete bullshit.

If you're an online player, and you're not contacting your representatives' offices and letting them know how you feel about these crap anti-gaming bills, then you need to. If you've got time to post on this site, you can take the time to send your congressman an e-mail.
  #9
2nd February 2009, 8:12 AM
odinscott
 
Online Poker at: PS
Game: Holdem
the gov will have a hard time stopping paper checks

echecks are still working as well at this point on alot if not most sites
  #10
7th February 2009, 2:55 AM
CheeseConey
 
Poker at: PokerStars
Game: holdem
re: Can We still Cashout AS U.S. players poker

A buddy of mine just cashed out from Stars a couple weeks ago. They sent him a paper check that he said was non-descript(didn't say PokerStars on it). He had no problem cashing it at his bank.
  #11
8th February 2009, 5:00 PM
MeTim
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: omaha H/L
Good onfo

Quote:
Originally Posted by CheeseConey
A buddy of mine just cashed out from Stars a couple weeks ago. They sent him a paper check that he said was non-descript(didn't say PokerStars on it). He had no problem cashing it at his bank.
Non discript..... Good to know
  #12
18th February 2009, 5:00 PM
pmoss01
 
Game: holdem
I was just informed that my PokerTime withdrawal has been delayed/cancelled because the company that normally cuts their checks in the US is no longer in business. Then, via e-mail they asked for:

Bank Account Number:
Account holder:
Routing Number:
Checking/Savings account:
Bank Name:
Bank Address:
Branch Name:
Player Address:

They are owned my Carmen Media, whose Web site I can no longer find and I definitely do not trust them with this kind of information. It is legal for US players to receive their payouts, so I'm not sure why they can't just cut us checks. Any recommendations?
  #13
19th February 2009, 2:54 PM
LowWaterMark
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: FR Holdem
Has anything truly changed in the past six months for players from the United States?
  #14
19th February 2009, 4:21 PM
darc11
 
Poker at: FTP/PS
Game: all
I have personally cashed out from FTP and PS in the last month with no problems. I actually got my checks within a week or so from both sites. I live in CT.
  #15
19th February 2009, 5:13 PM
trojan87
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
re: Can We still Cashout AS U.S. players poker

i hope u can cash out because US players r stilll putting money in. i know peeps that hv cashed out but that was a few months ago. iknow there r a few small fees too when u cash out and some sites require that u leave a minimum amount in your account before cashing out and some dont i guess its what site ur playing that makes the difference.
  #16
20th February 2009, 1:59 PM
LowWaterMark
 
Poker at: PokerStars
Game: FR Holdem
darc11 and Trojan87, thanks for taking the time to write. My main concern is PokerStars.

Has anyone set up an international bank account for handling their poker accounts. It's legal and as long as you pay taxes on profits, the IRS couldn't care less. The drag is you often need a sizeable minimum balance.

I'm tiring of my bank interfering with my personal life. I play poker on The Isle of Man (PokerStars). I might as well give them my banking business as well.
  #17
2nd March 2009, 12:45 PM
LowWaterMark
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: FR Holdem
Not true.

From their cash-out policy terms of service this morning:

Quote:
USD Checks will be delivered by regular mail and are expected to arrive within 15 business days. Non-USD checks under $1,000 USD equivalent will be sent by regular mail, and are expected to arrive within 15 business days. Non-USD checks over $1,000 USD equivalent will be delivered by courier and are expected to arrive within 7 business days.
I even called to double-check. As Talking Heads said in "Once In a Lifetime" back in the '70s: "same as it ever was".
  #18
3rd March 2009, 7:31 PM
snoopy1dan
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
I have always wondered how would a person explain to the IRS if you deposited a huge check, such as 80k for example
  #19
3rd March 2009, 9:04 PM
FEARFACTOR
 
Online Poker at: Doyles, Ultimatebet
Game: all games
Anyboby know anything about PIC-CLUB lately? I have used them to make several deposits to Doyles and Pokerhost in the last year or so, but have never cashed out. I read a post on another forum that said he was getting the run-around from PIC-CLUB about getting a check. That was the first bad thing I've heard about them. For all I know, that poster could have had any number of issues to comply with PIC-CLUB's withdrawal policy, such as identity and residence verification. I hope his case was an isolated incident. Anybody else have any PIC-CLUB stories?problems?
  #20
4th March 2009, 5:57 AM
kill n laugh
 
Poker at: bodog
Game: holdem
re: Can We still Cashout AS U.S. players poker

bodog is very US savvy when it comes to paying out. Although i gotta warn ya about how often bad beats happen.
  #21
4th March 2009, 10:49 AM
GDRileyx
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Omahi HiLo
I have heard that some sites make you deposit before you can withdraw. For instance Carbon Poker. I have also heard that Pokerstars and FTilt will let you cash out if you have not deposit. Anybody have hard facts on this?
  #22
5th March 2009, 1:17 AM
MeTim
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: omaha H/L
Cash out policy

Quote:
Originally Posted by GDRileyx
I have heard that some sites make you deposit before you can withdraw. For instance Carbon Poker. I have also heard that Pokerstars and FTilt will let you cash out if you have not deposit. Anybody have hard facts on this?
I dont have the emails anymore but my cousin did email Full Tilt and Poker Stars about cashing out FR winnings. They both said in short. Your money Is your money no matter how you won it. You can meet the minamum cash out requirements and cash out with out makeing a deposit. If you are a U.S. resident you must wait for a check. Visa and mastercard will not take the charge back.
I recently checked into Players only's cashout policy and theirs is much different. You do have to depost there. See my thread for more info on them. Im sure alot of sights are the same. This thread contains the emails from me and their replys.
PLayers only Free roll funds and cash out policy

You can email any sight you play on and ask what their policy is. So far from my experance Full Tilt, Poker Stars, and Absolute do not require a depost to cash out.
  #23
6th March 2009, 7:17 PM
Jaynore
 
Online Poker at: Bodog
Game: Omaha
FT and PS both allow withdrawls without having to make deposits.
  #24
11th March 2009, 12:08 AM
vincesky007
 
Poker at: fulltilt.com
Game: holdem
The only way you can get your money back is by check and that is if you are in the U.S.
  #25
16th March 2009, 4:47 PM
StormRaven
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: holdem
re: Can We still Cashout AS U.S. players poker

My last cashout from ps was the first week of Jan '09. For the first time I tried an e-check - it took 10 days for the funds to be deposited in my account.

In Dec. '08 I cashed out from ps with a paper check - amounts under $1000 are sent via mail from one of two offices in the U.S. - mine always come from CA. The papercheck is very non descript as another member mentioned and had a different company listed on it. I found this nice - it would be difficult to cash a check that clearly stated "PokerStars" on it - lol.

Amonts over $1000 requested in paper check form are sent via courier where you have to be home and sign for it.

My paper check also took 10 days. The bank cleared it no problem.

On 01/30/09 The Poker Edge ESPN Radio Podcast with Phil Gordon aired an interview with Howard Lederer and the main topic was about the UIGEA rules. (If you have an IPOD you can obtain this podcast with Howard free through ITUNES).

According to Howard the rules went into effect on Jan. 19th this year but the specific ruling about banks not accepting deposits from online gaming sites or players transferring funds to gaming sites doesn't have to be complied with until Dec. 2009.

I am just repeating what I heard on the podcast - I have not verified this info via other means.
  #26
16th March 2009, 5:47 PM
RUKiddingMe
 
Poker at: BigDaddy's
Game: NLHE
Withdrawals

I have almost $200.00 at Big Daddys Casino and Poker Room (Pimp-Your-Poker); Does anyone have info/suggestions on how I can withdraw from here? I live in Tucson,Az USA.
 



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