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  #1  
05-05-2008, 6:44 PM
bw07507
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  #2  
05-05-2008, 6:47 PM
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hmm, for some reason the link isnt working, i guess ill try to upload it again
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05-05-2008, 7:34 PM
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nvr mind, seems to be working now
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05-05-2008, 7:44 PM
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Seems to be d/ling for me
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05-05-2008, 11:29 PM
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TT hand I dunno; I put him on a pocket pair which would include 77 which I think would have made the straight. On the other hand, he was the same guy who bet the river on the last hand when you tried to get to showdown cheap with your missed AK, wasn't he? Sorry, wasn't paying too close attention.

The one I would have questioned is the 98s on the button with two limpers, the first being a short stack. With two limpers I'm inclined to limp behind with suited connectors or small pairs rather than raise, especially with a short stack being one of the limpers. And I say that results notwithstanding, more as a general rule.
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06-05-2008, 3:48 PM
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Great vid BW, cant wait for the 50NL one. Im not sure about that TT hand. I think I would have folded, but like you said you were getting good odds. Do you think you have the best hand there more than 25% of the time? Im not sure, its pretty close to me.

Btw, not sure if you know this or not, but you can re size the PAhud stats if you're having problems seeing them.
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06-05-2008, 9:35 PM
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I think if you go to tools>options> capture layered windows it should record the hud stats. Try it on a small vid.

78 at like 6:30 I don't like calling there. We're getting almost 4:1 but the combination of mostly hitting draws as opposed to two pair + and the fact that we're out of position for the rest of the hand makes getting to showdown with our marginal hands a lot harder, and also makes getting value harder when we flop a monster. I just fold there.

You do this a few times throughout the video (see KJ, A2) and I think it's a leak for the same reasons. You also called a small reraise when you opened QJ utg which isn't exactly the same, but they all relate in that you're calling a raise OOP with a marginal hand, and that's basically going to be spew long-term. I was hoping to see you flop top pair type hands to see how you handled them but you basically missed or flopped a monster. I just think the combination of missing most of the time, flopping hard-to-play draws another good chunk of the time, flopping marginal top pair/medium pair hands and not flopping monsters enough (all OOP of course) is going to be a significant drawback on your winrate.

22 at 14:30 I'll often check-fold flops like these against fishy shortstacks. They never fold their draws, and also hold onto second pair or even underpairs sometimes. The board just connects with too much of their range and with the fishiness they just won't lay down very many hands.

Right before 20 min mark you call down 88 vs what you say is an aggressive player, I didn't like the call down. His bet sizing probably means he's on a draw or has something weak like a T or 7, maybe even a queen. Easy to say after the fact, but I think of those hands, his range is weighted towards weak single pair hands as usually a lag will raise more with a draw to get more FE. I think I like calling and raising big on a safe (non jack/ace/king/ten) turn if he leads weak again. By calling down you're only giving yourself one way to win, and that's if he's on a busted draw.

23 minutes you isolate OTB with 89o. By the river I really think the only hands that beat us are miracles (slowplayed overpairs, miracle jacks, sets) and that there are tons of small pairs that can call. 45, 34, A4, A3, maybe ace high, 55-77...definitely value there. You've also underrepped your hand tremendously and will get looked up pretty light.

TT hand at like 31 mins, that is a tough river decision. What were his stats? Sets, two pair, 78/76/etc, 77 all have you beat and basically you're banking on him having a busted flush draw. I thought maybe block betting the river for like 1/3 pot would be ok, but even then you're not getting looked up by nearly enough worse hands (A6? 99?) to make it a good value bet. I think check-folding is probably best there. If he's aggressive I probably block bet the river in hopes of a cheap showdown, and if he raises I think we have to assume we're beat. Toughie.

AKs late in the video I like double barreling the turn. In effect you're value betting/protecting your hand against the drawing hands, and you also give those smaller pairs a hard time with the overcard.

Good stuff, again the only thing I felt was a big leak was your calling OOP. The odds sound good, but you're not considering the magnitude of the other factors. Aside from that again I liked the play - very solid aggressive style and I hope you and others come out with more videos, they're great for group and self analysis.
  #8  
06-05-2008, 10:06 PM
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Watched about 7 mins so far. Will watch more later.

- The girls must love the way you say "buh-en" for "button". LOL

- Why don't you like playing short stacks? I actually look for them in the lobby. Since their range is so wide, I like to put them to a decision for their stack whenever I can. Like with those pocket 7's you had. I just may have put him all-in to see if he'd call with something like KT or A6s (I say "may"). If he wins, your loss is only $7 or so. Try it once and test it out.

- 45o SB with 2 limpers. 85c pot, 15c to call. Why not complete & try to see a flop with such good odds? If the BB raises the whole table, then you can fold and you've only lost 15c. Easy dump if you don't hit the flop.
  #9  
06-05-2008, 11:51 PM
bw07507
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Thx for watching guys, I obviously love getting criticism as it is a great way to improve your game. Ive got the next couple days off from work so I will be making another video soon. Im not sure I really feel comfortable jumping back to 50NL right away. Im scared after that 6 buy-in downswing I had and I am so comfortable at 25NL right now that I feel like there is no reason to force another try at 50NL til I really feel that Im ready. Id like my BR to be ~1300-1500 b4 I take another shot at 50NL so Ill probably be doing a video 6-tabling 25NL 6max. Who knows how Ill be feeling tomorrow though, so who knows, maybe it will be 50NL.
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