Bombjack PLO video (video now up)

Would anyone be interested if I made one of these?

Yes, if PLO is Pot Limit Omaha, no if PLO is Palestine Liberation Organisation.

I was thinking of Pot Limit Omaha.

DOOOOOOOOOOO ITTTTTTTTTTT

Seriously, PLO is one game where, on the rare occasions I play, I have practically no idea what the hell I'm doing. Educate me!

OK due to that rapturous response, here it is:

PLO25 Video (147 MB)

I'm quite pleased how this video has turned out. I played pretty well and there are a number of tricky spots and laydowns.

Let me know what you think, and feel free to discuss any hands in this forum (start a new thread and include hand details). I'll go into more detail of my thoughts and things I took into account.

Watching the video again, I spot a number of mistakes I made in my play. See if you can identify them and post what you think they are.

Weee, coolness.

Unfortunately I've just destroyed my MU download limit and can't download this for about 368 minutes, but I'll most likely watch it tomorrow and give my horribly ill-informed opinion then!

Very cool Blackjack, I'll check it out. Are you much into PLO8 as well? I'd love to see a video on that too, as I think the game is terribly fun and profitable but I could probably use some education on some points

I will deffo be downloading this. I love having a shot at PLO, but I'll have to wait a while after downloading DB's video b4 using MU. My son is going of his head coz he was in the process of d/l something as well and he's not very impressed

I haven't really played a huge amount of PLO8 although I'd had some success in PLO8 sit and goes - probably because everyone else is really bad!

I've been playing much more PLO high recently however. It seems to be skyrocketing in popuarity, and I think it's going to become a lot better known. It probably doesn't have the same TV appeal as NLHE because Omaha tournaments are even more of a crapshoot than Hold'em ones. But especially as a cash game, I think more people will play it as the hold'em games get tougher.

Thanks for this - ill download it because as much as i like playing it there are times when i wish i knew for certain i was doing it right lol

So to see anothers point of view can only be good

Hey Bombjack,

Nice vid.

Just a couple of points I wanted to get into. There's a hand where you pick up Ad Kx 3d 4d. In the hand you turn the nuts, but check it. I think this is a clear bet here. Villain pots the flop on a drawy board, which will be a set a fair amount of the time. I think this must be bet for value against a possible river that pairs the board. Agree?

Also, you pick up a hand with As Ks 5h 6h. This is a nice hand but I don't like the PF raise. My thinking is this: You're really looking for a big draw on the flop. If you flop the spade flush the hand is pretty much done. So I think raising for value is wrong because the hands value is in the draw ability. So for me a flat call is better because you keep players in and commit less to the pot initially. Agree?

Nice to see PLO getting a bit more airtime too.

Cheers

Great! Thanks.

Yes, I didn't like the way I played this hand. I played it more like you would a suited Ace in Hold'em. Probably should have led the turn. Check/raising the flop would have been OK as well I think. As played, checking the river might have been OK as well to try to get a bet out of hands that completely missed, or worse flushes. There's a lot of ways to play it, although playing it like I did was probably the worst.

Here's the hand history:
FullTiltPoker Game #3238702512: Table Lund (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5:23:34 ET - 2007/08/13
Seat 1: theconsortium ($34.05)
Seat 2: Gepekop ($29.35)
Seat 3: Mark0815 ($10.75)
Seat 4: garlick ($28.95)
Seat 5: snowjoke ($27.80)
Seat 6: MyNTT ($25.10)
MyNTT posts the small blind of $0.10
theconsortium posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to snowjoke [6h As Ks 5h]
Gepekop folds
Mark0815 calls $0.25
garlick folds
snowjoke raises to $1.10
MyNTT folds
theconsortium calls $0.85
Mark0815 calls $0.85
*** FLOP *** [Jd 4d 7d]
theconsortium checks
Mark0815 checks
snowjoke checks
*** TURN *** [Jd 4d 7d] A♣
theconsortium bets $3.40
Mark0815 folds
snowjoke folds
Uncalled bet of $3.40 returned to theconsortium
theconsortium mucks
theconsortium wins the pot ($3.25)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.40 | Rake $0.15
Board: [Jd 4d 7d Ac]
Seat 1: theconsortium (big blind) collected ($3.25), mucked
Seat 2: Gepekop didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Mark0815 folded on the Turn
Seat 4: garlick didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: snowjoke (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: MyNTT (small blind) folded before the Flop

I think the raise is right here for
- Isolation - I want to get the blinds to fold and turn them into dead money, isolating the limper
- Value - my hand is better than most limping hands
- Taking the lead in the hand - if it's heads-up, I can often take it down with a c-bet on a lot of boards whether I hit or not
- Fold equity - limper might just fold pre-flop

It's generally a good idea to start building the pot from position, and play big pots on the button. Being last to act will allow you to get better value from your good hands as well.

Google will show this as PLO, and the first word of your handle, and the security folk will be at your door tomorrow morning.