tenbob
Legend
Silver Level
Lets not say never. Im gonna recommend ALWAYS felting KK preflop at nl$25 and below before anyone starts getting fancy. Once we go above this though, can we really say that against a reg or even a semi reg, that we are going to be against AK or QQ enough times to make this profitable. Im starting to thing its a bad idea for full (100BB>) stacks.
To deter the guys that say NEVER FOLD KK, it's a cooler to run into AA. Lets have a look at some situations. In all 5 situations we are facing an overbet for stacks.
1) Effective stacks are <30 BB, we ALWAYS play
2) Effective stacks are <70 BB, we ALWAYS play
3) Effective stacks are 70-100 BB, we USUALLY play
4) Effective stacks are 100-150BB, we USUALLY play.
5) Effective stacks are 150bb+, we NEVER play.
This has been playing on my mind lots and lots. Looking at my KK hands (ill post some tomorrow) Ive got a feeling that we need to reach a stack size vs a standard TAG where we decide to fold this hand pre-flop. At what situation DO YOU as a good TAG decide to stop playing QQ/AK for stacks ? 50BB ? 100BB? Can we really think that the other players out there start felting QQ/JJ deeper, especially prooven long term winning players.
Im on the verge of a move up to nl$200, and this is one of these situations that I need to resolve before I do it. Almost every single time over the last few weeks, observing pre-flop play for full stacks its been AA vs KK (between regs), almost never KKvsQQ, simply because the majority of full ring players simply wont play QQ/JJ preflop for stacks, Its something I dont do either.
Opnions ?
The edge we gain from getting this right is insane IMO
To deter the guys that say NEVER FOLD KK, it's a cooler to run into AA. Lets have a look at some situations. In all 5 situations we are facing an overbet for stacks.
1) Effective stacks are <30 BB, we ALWAYS play
2) Effective stacks are <70 BB, we ALWAYS play
3) Effective stacks are 70-100 BB, we USUALLY play
4) Effective stacks are 100-150BB, we USUALLY play.
5) Effective stacks are 150bb+, we NEVER play.
This has been playing on my mind lots and lots. Looking at my KK hands (ill post some tomorrow) Ive got a feeling that we need to reach a stack size vs a standard TAG where we decide to fold this hand pre-flop. At what situation DO YOU as a good TAG decide to stop playing QQ/AK for stacks ? 50BB ? 100BB? Can we really think that the other players out there start felting QQ/JJ deeper, especially prooven long term winning players.
Im on the verge of a move up to nl$200, and this is one of these situations that I need to resolve before I do it. Almost every single time over the last few weeks, observing pre-flop play for full stacks its been AA vs KK (between regs), almost never KKvsQQ, simply because the majority of full ring players simply wont play QQ/JJ preflop for stacks, Its something I dont do either.
Opnions ?
The edge we gain from getting this right is insane IMO