is it just me, or is roulette easy to make money on?

This is a discussion on is it just me, or is roulette easy to make money on? within the online poker forums, in the Golden Archive section; i swear, its practically impossible not to make money. In the past 2 days I've made 107 dollars in about 5 hours of play. i ...
Poker Forum - Register
Deposit at a poker games site and get a big bonus. Sign-up for Poker Stars marketing code offers and the free online poker full tilt referral codes, full tilt referenzcode and code parrainage full tilt promotions. USA players should find US poker sites to play online poker.
Titan Poker Party Poker Bodog Pacific Poker
Online Poker   Poker Forum > Poker Message Boards > General Poker > Golden Archive
SEARCH THE ONLINE POKER FORUMS  


Online Poker Forum
 
 
 
  #1
25th June 2007, 6:31 AM
WhiteWidowToker
 
Plays at: FT
Game: NL hold'em
is it just me, or is roulette easy to make money on?

i swear, its practically impossible not to make money. In the past 2 days I've made 107 dollars in about 5 hours of play. i start with 280 dollars, and with that, I'm alway able to turn out 30 dollars in about an hour, then i take a break for a couple hours just so i don't get to ahead of myself.

anyways.... the strategy i use is as follows....

suppose the alst three number that came up were 3,5,12, i notice that these 3 numbers are all within the 1-12 range. So what i do then is bet on both 2nd and 3rd 12, the next number is going to be 13-36 most of the time, obviously. So even if you still lose, you can bet there again knowing that the 33.3 percent chance couldn't continue occuring much longer. obviously it does sometimes, which is why i start with such a hefty amount of 280. Ive used my winnings to pay for two buy ins to a 65k grnt tourney.

other things i do are for instance if it is under 18 4-6 times in a row, ill start betting 19-36. As for the colors, i usually wait til theres at least 5 of them in a row, for some reason the colors are the most tense ones to be chasing, i had it come up red 11 consecutive times on me.

i know this isn't rocket science, and I'm not trying to say that Ive discovered this revolutionary way of becoming rich. i was just wondering how many other people out there also use this method to make money?
Play Texas Hold'em Online Poker | is it just me, or is roulette easy to make money on?

Absolute PokerAbsolute Poker offers online poker games to US players with a 100% up to $500 sign up bonus.

TPTitan Poker are the top poker site on the iPoker network. Use the bonus code CC500 to get a 150% up to $500 Bonus.

  #2
25th June 2007, 6:35 AM
stormswa
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: all of them
think we can move this to other games...admin?
  #3
25th June 2007, 7:20 AM
MrSticker
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: Yes, I am
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWidowToker
is it just me, or is roulette easy to make money on?
It's just you. Sounds like you've had a lucky run. But I wouldn't count on that run lasting.

Statistically speaking, roulette is one of the worst casino games for house edge (along with keno and the "Big Wheel"). The only real way to try to lessen the house edge is to stick to the even money props (like red or black). But that's boring.

The 3 best casino games against the house edge are blackjack, craps, and video poker. Then, of course, there's real poker, which is just raked.
  #4
25th June 2007, 7:28 AM
ripptyde
 
Plays at: Poker Stars
Game: NLHE
When I read the title of this post, I almost didn't open it.

The notion that it is 'easy' to make money from roulette is ridiculous. If it was 'easy' then every gaming establishment in the free world would never offer it.

Furthermore, this entire post is predicated upon nothing more than short term variance.

suppose the alst three number that came up were 3,5,12, i notice that these 3 numbers are all within the 1-12 range. So what i do then is bet on both 2nd and 3rd 12, the next number is going to be 13-36 most of the time, obviously.

obviously ?? You can't possibly be serious. This is like saying 'Oh I flipped a coin 20 times and the last 5 times were all heads so OBVIOUSLY the next 5 are going to be tails.

Roulette is a SPINNING WHEEL with no rhyme, reason or predictability whatsoever. Anyone who thinks there is a 'system' for this game should check themselves into the nearest mental hospital immediately.

I tried to reread the OP another time, but I couldn't make it past the first sentence it was just too painful.
  #5
25th June 2007, 8:04 AM
WhiteWidowToker
 
Plays at: FT
Game: NL hold'em
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSticker
It's just you. Sounds like you've had a lucky run. But I wouldn't count on that run lasting.

Statistically speaking, roulette is one of the worst casino games for house edge (along with keno and the "Big Wheel"). The only real way to try to lessen the house edge is to stick to the even money props (like red or black). But that's boring.

The 3 best casino games against the house edge are blackjack, craps, and video poker. Then, of course, there's real poker, which is just raked.
i do only play the outside, dont bother with the numbers
  #6
25th June 2007, 8:19 AM
joosebuck
 
Plays at: 911POKER.COM
Game: strip poker
-ev
  #7
25th June 2007, 8:26 AM
nateofdeath
 
Plays at: pokerstars
re: is it just me, or is roulette easy to make money on? poker

you know, you should really consider writting a book on this subject, because most other gamblers are under the impression that the roulette wheel is completly random, and not only can it not be predicted, but casinos only list the past numbers that have hit to trick people into thinking that certain are more likely to come up, ultimatly making them think that is possible to beat the game, so that they will keep spending money on it, even when they lose. Your theories are quite revolutionary, and you'll probably make more money selling them to suckers then you will trying to beat roulette. i mean seriously, even the even-odd and red-black bets are slanted to the house with the green zeros, so you really need all the help you can get

-n
  #8
25th June 2007, 8:26 AM
ripptyde
 
Plays at: Poker Stars
Game: NLHE
quit your job and go pro immediately. I'll notify Harrahs that you cracked the code to winning roulette.

I seriously hope the OP was a joke because if you truly believe that there is any merit whatsoever to your 'system' then (ahem)...well what more can I say.

By the rationale' stated in your post, you should easily be able to predict global warming, lottery numbers and stock market trends just as easily.

Seriously, do you have any idea how ridiculous your system sounds ? You are suggesting that because 1-12 came up 3 times in a row that its probable that 13-36 will come up more often.

You do understand that this is a spinning wheel with a tumbling ball and that is IMPOSSIBLE to predict what number the ball lands on. This is, in every sense of the word...a RANDOM event. The ball is just as likely to fall on 0 five times in a row as it is to fall on 5 different sequential numbers in a row.

If you select 1,2,3,4,5,6 as your lottery numbers....your odds are just as good as someone selecting their favorite numbers. By your logic....choosing a number that the ball hasn't fallen on in the last 3 hours has a greater chance of hitting than a number that has hit 9 out of the last 10 times.....unfortunately this is severely flawed logic with no substance whatsoever.
  #9
25th June 2007, 8:58 AM
Jonline
 
Plays at: Ultimatebet
Game: Holdem
your logic is illogical
  #10
25th June 2007, 9:03 AM
4Aces
 
Plays at: Jokerstars
Game: NLHE & PLO
No casino game is easy to make money on, remember that!
  #11
25th June 2007, 2:54 PM
stormswa
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: all of them
roulette is the worst game in the casino to make money on.
  #12
25th June 2007, 4:58 PM
Dorkus Malorkus
 
Plays at: Stars
Game: yes
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWidowToker
suppose the alst three number that came up were 3,5,12, i notice that these 3 numbers are all within the 1-12 range. So what i do then is bet on both 2nd and 3rd 12, the next number is going to be 13-36 most of the time, obviously. So even if you still lose, you can bet there again knowing that the 33.3 percent chance couldn't continue occuring much longer. obviously it does sometimes, which is why i start with such a hefty amount of 280. Ive used my winnings to pay for two buy ins to a 65k grnt tourney.

other things i do are for instance if it is under 18 4-6 times in a row, ill start betting 19-36. As for the colors, i usually wait til theres at least 5 of them in a row, for some reason the colors are the most tense ones to be chasing, i had it come up red 11 consecutive times on me.
please let this be a joke post
  #13
25th June 2007, 5:48 PM
graveworm
 
Roulette is considered to be the only game based on luck where the "house" can't lose. And from what I've heard the explanation is the 0 or 00 spot on the roulette.
  #14
25th June 2007, 9:11 PM
Jonline
 
Plays at: Ultimatebet
Game: Holdem
re: is it just me, or is roulette easy to make money on? poker

the only real way to play roulette is with a lot of gamble. walk up, put $1K on red, and hope for the best. win or lose, walk away.
  #15
25th June 2007, 9:30 PM
WhiteWidowToker
 
Plays at: FT
Game: NL hold'em
ahuh you guys know it all hey? well all i know is another hour, another 27 dollars im yet to lose a penny.
  #16
25th June 2007, 9:33 PM
ChuckTs
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWidowToker
suppose the alst three number that came up were 3,5,12, i notice that these 3 numbers are all within the 1-12 range. So what i do then is bet on both 2nd and 3rd 12, the next number is going to be 13-36 most of the time, obviously.

And why is this?
  #17
25th June 2007, 9:39 PM
PokerPete
 
Plays at: BoDog.com
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by ripptyde
If you select 1,2,3,4,5,6 as your lottery numbers....your odds are just as good as someone selecting their favorite numbers.
WARNING: Thread Highjack!

Actually, your odds of "winning big" are less with your pick.... a large percentage of people who play lotto, tend to play birthday's (their's, their Mom's, etc.)
So the highest concentration of bets is in the 1 to 12 & 1 to 31 range.

thererfore, picking 32,33,34,35,36,37 would be better..... not that you have a better chance of winning....just that SHOULD you win, the likelihood of SHARING the pot is smaller

Sidenote to anyone who thinks sample sets of previous hands (other than multideck blackjack) effect "what's due up next": Whenever I'm at the poker table with you and you are dealt 7d2d which is the THIRD HAND IN A ROW you were suited...... PLEASE, PLEASE call my 10xBB pre-flop raise....you ARE DUE to hit that diamond flush!!!! TRUST ME!!
  #18
25th June 2007, 9:47 PM
WhiteWidowToker
 
Plays at: FT
Game: NL hold'em
^^^^i don't know, why is it that you, and everyone else who is decent at poker use the same logic for determining pot odds? 20 percent of the pot for a 20 percent shot right? well, who's to say you wont go on a life long losing streak? why is it not ok to apply the same mathematical probabilities for other games? if you guys cant see that, then wow, don't plan on turning professional anytime soon. just because you use pot odds, doesnt gurantee youll win in the long run, does it?

if it comes up 1-12 3 times in a row, then, most likely, it will come up 13-36 the next time. And if it doesn't, thats gambling right? thats why i always bet 1 dollar first, and thats why i haven't been getting these huge payoffs, Ive only been making 20-40 dollars an hour. all i know is i always give myself a 67 percent shot every time. I'm not going nuts and getting lucky here, i lose, a lot. i just space it out so that my wins exceed my losses. If i wanted to go crazy and bet 10 dollars every time, then i would agree with you guys that its difficult to make money at roulette.

So say what you want, post your lame predictable jokes of how i should go pro, meanwhile ill be adding on to my 174 dollars that Ive won in 7 hours of work.

EDIT: this was a reply to chuckts.

Last edited by WhiteWidowToker : 25th June 2007 at 9:58 PM.
  #19
25th June 2007, 9:49 PM
WhiteWidowToker
 
Plays at: FT
Game: NL hold'em
Quote:
Originally Posted by PokerPete
WARNING: Thread Highjack!

Actually, your odds of "winning big" are less with your pick.... a large percentage of people who play lotto, tend to play birthday's (their's, their Mom's, etc.)
So the highest concentration of bets is in the 1 to 12 & 1 to 31 range.

thererfore, picking 32,33,34,35,36,37 would be better..... not that you have a better chance of winning....just that SHOULD you win, the likelihood of SHARING the pot is smaller

Sidenote to anyone who thinks sample sets of previous hands (other than multideck blackjack) effect "what's due up next": Whenever I'm at the poker table with you and you are dealt 7d2d which is the THIRD HAND IN A ROW you were suited...... PLEASE, PLEASE call my 10xBB pre-flop raise....you ARE DUE to hit that diamond flush!!!! TRUST ME!!
wow, you are such an internet socialite......seriously your so cool man.
  #20
25th June 2007, 9:59 PM
dj11
 
Plays at: PSFTUBPOSB&O
Game: Horse.
The '0' and '00' are the houses edge when playing red or black, because they are green, and odd or even because they are considered neither.
  #21
25th June 2007, 10:02 PM
WhiteWidowToker
 
Plays at: FT
Game: NL hold'em
re: is it just me, or is roulette easy to make money on? poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by dj11
The '0' and '00' are the houses edge when playing red or black, because they are green, and odd or even because they are considered neither.
im not playing double zero, but still, the one zero is irrelevant, it hardly ever comes up, and when it does i dont cry about it. i even hit it today, just thought id put one dollar on it for the hell of it, and got it. too bad i already had 30 dollars on the table, so i only won 6 dollars off it.
  #22
25th June 2007, 10:04 PM
stormswa
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: all of them
white,

you are taking things too personal, if you feel you can keep winning at it then go for it man. My friend has made alot of money playing roulette, I would say well over a couple grand but he says the game is horrible for the player and he is just lucky.

just dont be suprised if your run ends and you lose your money.

my buddie spreads about $60 a spin, and he never puts less then $4 or so on a number. If you are spreading $1 chips all around you are going to lose bad. The best play in roulette is hit fast and run.
  #23
25th June 2007, 10:14 PM
vanquish
 
Luck?
  #24
25th June 2007, 10:39 PM
Dorkus Malorkus
 
Plays at: Stars
Game: yes
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWidowToker
if it comes up 1-12 3 times in a row, then, most likely, it will come up 13-36 the next time.
please learn basic statistics before posting again if you don't want to appear silly. each spin of a roulette wheel is an independent event, previous results do not affect future ones.

the one zero isn't irrelevant - it ensures that you're getting evens on a slightly less likely than even proposition when betting on red or black, and so on. in the long run, you will lose money. if there was any flawless 'system' to beating roulette, don't you think we'd know about it and casinos would have stopped offering it?

are you one of those people who would limp-call UTG with 8c4c in poker because "no clubs have flopped in the last half hour so we're obviously due some"?
  #25
25th June 2007, 10:57 PM
roundcat
 
Game: NLHE
I played roulette once and I won too, but it was just luck. It's a fun game, so if you're enjoying it and on a winning streak, go for it! Mathematically, long-term profit is highly unlikely, but there's nothing wrong with riding a winning wave before it washes back out.
  #26
25th June 2007, 11:05 PM
WhiteWidowToker
 
Plays at: FT
Game: NL hold'em
i lose quite abit though. you guys misunderstood me big time, i dont play the numbers, just the outside slots. and im not taking anything personally....
  #27
26th June 2007, 1:34 AM
WhiteWidowToker
 
Plays at: FT
Game: NL hold'em
10 minutes 17 dollars.

im gonna keep posting, show you that i never lose doing this. ill post my losses aswell.

so, so far i have 181 dollars.
  #28
26th June 2007, 1:42 AM
Jonline
 
Plays at: Ultimatebet
Game: Holdem
re: is it just me, or is roulette easy to make money on? poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWidowToker
i lose quite abit though. you guys misunderstood me big time, i dont play the numbers, just the outside slots. and im not taking anything personally....

you have to look at it scientifically man, there is the exact same chance that the ball will land on 1 or on 14 or on 29 every single time its tossed. regardless of what number came up last or even the last 10 times. the ball has a 1/36 chance of hitting any number. if it hits 4, then the next spin it still has a 1/36 chance of hitting 4 again.

your logic is illogical. stay away from roulette.
  #29
26th June 2007, 1:44 AM
stormswa
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: all of them
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonline
you have to look at it scientifically man, there is the exact same chance that the ball will land on 1 or on 14 or on 29 every single time its tossed. regardless of what number came up last or even the last 10 times. the ball has a 1/36 chance of hitting any number. if it hits 4, then the next spin it still has a 1/36 chance of hitting 4 again.

your logic is illogical. stay away from roulette.
its best not to discuss logic with the clueless, its like talking to a wall!
  #30
26th June 2007, 2:03 AM
WhiteWidowToker
 
Plays at: FT
Game: NL hold'em
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonline
you have to look at it scientifically man, there is the exact same chance that the ball will land on 1 or on 14 or on 29 every single time its tossed. regardless of what number came up last or even the last 10 times. the ball has a 1/36 chance of hitting any number. if it hits 4, then the next spin it still has a 1/36 chance of hitting 4 again.

your logic is illogical. stay away from roulette.
it has a 33.3 percent chance of missing the number, i have a 67 percent chance to win. I cant see what your missing here.

you play poker I'm sure, and I'm also sure you understand what pot odds are. if your in a pot for 1000, and someone bets 240 chips, and you have an open ended straight draw, you make the call. why? obviously he only bet 24 percent of the pot, and your outs leave you with a 23-25 percent chance of making your straight bu the river. so suppose you don't make the str8 8 times you are in this scenario, who's to say you'll ever make it? why not just give up poker? you wont, because you know that theres no way in hell the losing streak with that scenario can continue forever, so you keep playing, right? Or are you saying that the reason my roulette strategy is illogical is because you actually believe that the 33.3 percent likely has the possibility of lasting forever?

I KNOW I'M GAMBLING! but with an advantage that i can exploit with a deep enough bankroll.

Jesus, where are you!!!!

EDIT: for the record, the longest a losing streak has lasted with the 67 percent advantage was 5.
  #31
26th June 2007, 2:07 AM
stormswa
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: all of them
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWidowToker
it has a 33.3 percent chance of missing the number, i have a 67 percent chance to win. I cant see what your missing here.

LOL
LOL

wait you are playing the outside numbers right?

most tables you have to spread at least $5 to $10 on outside, where do you get 67%?

if you play 1st 3 then you have a 33% chance of winning if you want to get technical you have a 33.333333333333333333% chance. There are 3 sets of numbers 100/3 = 67% huh?

roulette is a losing game in the long run bottom line! it is a game meant to hit fast hit hard and get the hell out. I like you as a poster but this thread is just wrong in sooo many ways.
  #32
26th June 2007, 2:07 AM
mischman
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus
are you one of those people who would limp-call UTG with 8c4c in poker because "no clubs have flopped in the last half hour so we're obviously due some"?
This is the only good post in this thread.

</thread>
  #33
26th June 2007, 2:14 AM
WhiteWidowToker
 
Plays at: FT
Game: NL hold'em
Quote:
Originally Posted by stormswa
LOL
LOL

wait you are playing the outside numbers right?

most tables you have to spread at least $5 to $10 on outside, where do you get 67%?

if you play 1st 3 then you have a 33% chance of winning if you want to get technical you have a 33.333333333333333333% chance. There are 3 sets of numbers 100/3 = 67% huh?

roulette is a losing game in the long run bottom line! it is a game meant to hit fast hit hard and get the hell out. I like you as a poster but this thread is just wrong in sooo many ways.
oie, whatever man, i dont think you understand what im saying at all. the fact is there are 24 numbers that can help me, and 12 that i want to avoid. so far, playing these odds has allowed me to make pretty good money.
  #34
26th June 2007, 2:17 AM
stormswa
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: all of them
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWidowToker
oie, whatever man, i dont think you understand what im saying at all. the fact is there are 24 numbers that can help me, and 12 that i want to avoid. so far, playing these odds has allowed me to make pretty good money.
ok im done making fun of you now lets talk serious.

just because numbers have hit before does not mean they can not hit again. I have seen numbers hit like 3 times in a row, now im talking from experience here.

I spend A LOT of times in a casino, have not been in couple months because of home life stuff but normally I spend a lot of time there. I have seen 00 hit two to three times in a row. If you are basing your odds on the fact that the low number hit the last 6 times then there is a serious hole in your roulette game (sorry had to).

its comes down to this, you are getting lucky. Bottom line and hell ride that luck till it stops then get the hell out and Good luck.

if you are playing 2 sets of numbers then you really are not making that much, so we spread $10 on one set and $10 on other set and we spin wheel and we hit we make $30 and lose $10 so our net is $20 and $10 was ours to begin with so we just make $10 actully? you see why in long run we are not winning that much? we miss and we lose $20. the outside numbers are the worse things to play on the wheel.
  #35
26th June 2007, 2:22 AM
mischman
 
Plays at: PokerStars
re: is it just me, or is roulette easy to make money on? poker

The little white ball has no memory. It doesnt remember that it hit black 9 times in a row and should now hit red. Each chance is 50-50(its like 49 cause of green but w/e). If you were to sit down and say red will hit 3 spins in a row, and it does, thats a statistical imprababilty(lol @ spelling). If you were to sit down and say red will hit, and it does, then say red will hit again, and it does, and again, and it does. Thats just gettting lucky because each spin was 50-50. Irexes explained something like it good in another thread, let me get a link.

In Vegas they stick score boards next to the wheels that show numbers and colors of the past X spins. People look at it and say OMG, red hasnt hit in 10 turns, let bet huge on it. In reality, its still 50-50.

The nickname for that scoreboard is the 'sucker board'
 




Players Only Poker
DEPOSIT USING CREDIT CARDS - GET A $1000 BONUS - US FRIENDLY SITE!

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 8:02 AM.



Poker Sites
Copyscape   Poker En Ligne Online Poker Poker Online
All original site contents ©Cardschat.com 2004-2009. Reproduction is prohibited.