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  #1  
09-09-2006, 5:28 AM
woodywoodwood
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Are the freeroll games on PokerStars.com FRAUD

This site, and I play everyday, between four poker sites, I place here and there, but recently on Pokerstars.com I made some rude comments during the game and now for 17 straight freeroll holdem games I have been rivered on the first. second, third, fourth or fifth hand I play. Guys I'm talking if I have aces, they get a flush, if I get a flush, they get straight flush, if after the turn I have a set, then on the river they hit a full house. GENTLEMEN, THIS HAS HAPPEND 17 TIMES IN THE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH OR FIFTH HAND i PLAY ON POKERSTARS.COM SINCE I MADE A RUDE COMMENT ABOUT THE SITE AND TOLD ANOTHER PLAYER TO PLAY ON A DIFFERENT SITE.

SO I always had great response from their support team when ever I have had any questions. So I ask them on a email and told them that I would like to confirm that thier play money games are monitored by a respectable casino security of some sort, and they have not replied.

I am 100% convinced that freeroles on pokerstars are acceptable to pokerstars.com employees to fix hands on individuals that they decide to do to.

I'm not a quack, before this incident I have made it to the weekly two freeroll(which you must go through 10,000 people to get access) three times in the last two months.

Now remember this is happening in the first five hands that I play, If I have two kings, someone goes in with 3 9 and yanks a full house, If I have Aces and go all in, someone will go in with 2,3 all in and yank two pair, its every game since I've made a rude comment about the site and told another player to play on a different site.

I still play on 3 other sites like mansionpoker dome and land in the top 30 almost 7/10 times, other sites as well, now how is that possible, what are the odds of this.

I have won a seat in the sept 17 no limit holdem on Pokerstars.com weekly two again, but this was won before I made the comment. I'm truley interest on what happens again. I'm going back right now to play two more freeroles just to show more friends( I have several that are just in complete awwww cause they have seen this for the last 5 or 6 games that they have seen) that this is true and I'm right.
 

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  #2  
09-09-2006, 12:19 PM
Dorkus Malorkus
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Quote:
SO I always had great response from their support team when ever I have had any questions. So I ask them on a email and told them that I would like to confirm that thier play money games are monitored by a respectable casino security of some sort, and they have not replied.
ahahahahhahahahahahhahaa
  #3  
09-09-2006, 2:15 PM
robwhufc
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Have you tried typing "Pokerstars is the best site and all the other poker sites suck" to see if they'll remove the fix?
  #4  
09-09-2006, 3:10 PM
whyareunvs
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This sounds about par for the course for the 10,000 person free rolls not something that is rigged. If pokerstars employees rig the game then they have way too much time on their hands and regardless of how much time they may have; I doubt they'd rig the game. Bad beats happen, but if you're going all-in preflop then you're accepting that someone may suck out on you.


my .02
  #5  
09-09-2006, 5:06 PM
gord962
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woodywoodwood View Post
I am 100% convinced that freeroles on pokerstars.com are acceptable to pokerstars.com employees to fix hands on individuals that they decide to do to.
That's exactly what the employees at PokerStars do. They monitor those who play free roles and rig their hands. Since this is where the company makes all it's money, they decide to target 1 person who made a negative comment and make his freeroll life a living hell. I can't believe you discovered their secret!!!!
  #6  
09-09-2006, 5:34 PM
rottyowner65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woodywoodwood View Post
GENTLEMEN, THIS HAS HAPPEND 17 TIMES IN THE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH OR FIFTH HAND i PLAY ON POKERSTARS.COM SINCE I MADE A RUDE COMMENT ABOUT THE SITE AND TOLD ANOTHER PLAYER TO PLAY ON A DIFFERENT SITE.
I'm not a quack ROFLMAO
Now remember this is happening in the first five hands that I play
I have won a seat in the sept 17 no limit holdem on Pokerstars.com weekly two again, but this was won before I made the comment. I'm truley interest on what happens again. I'm going back right now to play two more freeroles just to show more friends( I have several that are just in complete awwww cause they have seen this for the last 5 or 6 games that they have seen) that this is true and I'm right.
My god, i hope you have learned by now to fold the first 5 hands that you see.
  #7  
11-09-2006, 2:55 AM
BKrywko1
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Online poker is rigged, just accept it and your stress level will be at a much healthier level. </sarcasm>

Christ, it's rather pathetic to be complaining about friggin' freerolls being rigged on a site, isn't it?
  #8  
11-09-2006, 3:54 PM
Jack Daniels
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robwhufc View Post
Have you tried typing "Pokerstars is the best site and all the other poker sites suck" to see if they'll remove the fix?
Quote:
Originally Posted by gord962 View Post
That's exactly what the employees at PokerStars do. They monitor those who play free roles and rig their hands. Since this is where the company makes all it's money, they decide to target 1 person who made a negative comment and make his freeroll life a living hell. I can't believe you discovered their secret!!!!
ROTFLMAO....Pokerstars is rigged.

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My god, i hope you have learned by now to fold the first 5 hands that you see.
This is the best advice. Their rigged program only looks for your user name and the first five hands. After that, you're home free.
  #9  
11-09-2006, 4:15 PM
withawedge
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Sit out the first 5 hands and then join in the DONK FEST.

If you are lucky perhaps you will not yet have posted the blinds

If that is not acceptable try wearing some of these so they do not recognise you

  #10  
11-09-2006, 4:36 PM
vwt2
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WOW, Thats amazing. Out of thousands of people you're the ONLY one who made a rude comment. I'd devote thousands of $$$ and and endless employee hours to target you and screw you over in a freeroll!!!
  #11  
11-09-2006, 5:27 PM
Effexor
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The problem I see here, is that even if you make amends with the site, and start spewing out accolades, they can still use their satellites to find out what you are REALLY thinking.

I'd suggest this:

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
  #12  
11-09-2006, 11:41 PM
Jack Daniels
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Effexor View Post
The problem I see here, is that even if you make amends with the site, and start spewing out accolades, they can still use their satellites to find out what you are REALLY thinking.

I'd suggest this:

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
Dude, I have one of these. They work great except at Ultimatebet.
  #13  
12-09-2006, 12:20 AM
Alon Ipser
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Don't wear the aluminum beanies. Scientific studies have proven that they don't let the brain waves out and the brain waves just bounce around in your head like it's a microwave oven. This can cause schizophrenia, sterility and the desire to go all in preflop with a K9 suited. I myself have gone to the aluminum umbrella hat. It lets the brain waves out but deflects them to the ground so satellites and aliens can't read my mind.
  #14  
12-09-2006, 6:17 PM
PocketMG
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NO NO NO NO really im convince that McDonalds noes that i hate pickles so they put 1 underneath the meat patty aswell as one of top of the cheese ( in a cheese burger ) so they trick me into biting into those awful tasting things..


cheeeeeers

P.S i really do hate pickles and if i could rid this beautiful world of them i would.

P.P.S for all those pickle lovers out there... You want a war BRING IT ON lmao
  #15  
12-09-2006, 6:21 PM
juiceeQ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PocketMG
P.P.S for all those pickle lovers out there... You want a war BRING IT ON lmao
If it's war you want, it's war you'll get!! Back off my dill pickles dude!
  #16  
12-09-2006, 6:25 PM
PocketMG
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AHHHHH JuiceeQ u wanna go up against the amateur Pocket ahh ..well ill be stopping the Q where i want lol

BRING IT lmao
  #17  
12-09-2006, 6:29 PM
juiceeQ
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Originally Posted by PocketMG View Post
AHHHHH JuiceeQ u wanna go up against the amateur Pocket ahh ..well ill be stopping the Q where i want lol

BRING IT lmao
How about a compromise? We get rid of all the nasty sweet pickles and bread & butter pickles ...save the dill!

(My this thread has really gotten off topic...)
  #18  
12-09-2006, 6:32 PM
Welly
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Originally Posted by woodywoodwood View Post
So I ask them on a email and told them that I would like to confirm that thier play money games are monitored by a respectable casino security of some sort, and they have not replied.
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I still play on 3 other sites like mansionpoker dome and land in the top 30 almost 7/10 times, other sites as well, now how is that possible, what are the odds of this.
I simply cant believe they would ignore such an email. Surely they would at least circulate it to their friends.

As it seems you have a 70% ITM on Mansion and other sites, I would suggest sticking to them.
  #19  
12-09-2006, 6:34 PM
PocketMG
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ummmm ok..sure...whats a dill?? or whos the dill

( and yeah we have turned the thread...YES!!!!!)
  #20  
12-09-2006, 6:34 PM
juiceeQ
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ummmm ok..sure...whats a dill?? or whos the dill

( and yeah we have turned the thread...YES!!!!!)
In my eyes dill pickles are the ONLY pickles.
  #21  
12-09-2006, 6:39 PM
PocketMG
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ahhh i get it now
  #22  
13-09-2006, 12:14 PM
chrisarm26
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After reading this thread I am glad I joined cause I couldnt stop laughing. (sigh).......thanks
  #23  
13-09-2006, 1:00 PM
holly27
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im really glad i joined after what ijust read looks like everybody here is willing to listen to any problem an try to fix it.....
  #24  
16-09-2006, 1:03 AM
vwt2
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McDonalds uses synthetic pickles LOL
  #25  
16-09-2006, 7:08 AM
Jack Daniels
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alon Ipser View Post
Don't wear the aluminum beanies. Scientific studies have proven that they don't let the brain waves out and the brain waves just bounce around in your head like it's a microwave oven. This can cause schizophrenia, sterility and the desire to go all in preflop with a K9 suited.
Thank you Alon, I think you've just answered a few pending questions I've had. Now some things are starting to make sense. Well, the voice agree and are telling to go seek help. Thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PocketMG View Post
NO NO NO NO really im convince that McDonalds noes that i hate pickles so they put 1 underneath the meat patty aswell as one of top of the cheese ( in a cheese burger ) so they trick me into biting into those awful tasting things..
LMAO...McDonald's cheeseburgers are rigged.
  #26  
14-10-2006, 7:49 PM
stocki
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Hello! First of all i have to say that I´m very sorry for my bad knowledge english language!
Woody, I´m 100% with you. And I say, that it is not only in Freerolls like you said. It occures to me also in in sit&go´s and tournaments! They want to make turneys faster and that is why they help higher stack. The last three days i played about 30 sit&go´s and many things like this occured to me (KK vs AQ, all in in flop, AQ has higher stack and in turn there was the A) and this is happened not one time, it happened MANY times. I know, it can happen sometimes, but not so many times like on POKERSTARS. In my opinion is it a FRAUD. I send them a mail, and they told me everything is ok, all hands are running random, but in asked some players and they are the same opinion.
greetings, andy!

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodywoodwood View Post
This site, and I play everyday, between four sites, I place here and there, but recently on Pokerstars.com I made some rude comments during the game and now for 17 straight freeroll holdem games I have been rivered on the first. second, third, fourth or fifth hand I play. Guys I'm talking if I have aces, they get a flush, if I get a flush, they get straight flush, if after the turn I have a set, then on the river they hit a full house. GENTLEMEN, THIS HAS HAPPEND 17 TIMES IN THE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH OR FIFTH HAND i PLAY ON POKERSTARS.COM SINCE I MADE A RUDE COMMENT ABOUT THE SITE AND TOLD ANOTHER PLAYER TO PLAY ON A DIFFERENT SITE.

SO I always had great response from their support team when ever I have had any questions. So I ask them on a email and told them that I would like to confirm that thier play money games are monitored by a respectable casino security of some sort, and they have not replied.

I am 100% convinced that freeroles on pokerstars.com are acceptable to pokerstars.com employees to fix hands on individuals that they decide to do to.

I'm not a quack, before this incident I have made it to the weekly two freeroll(which you must go through 10,000 people to get access) three times in the last two months.

Now remember this is happening in the first five hands that I play, If I have two kings, someone goes in with 3 9 and yanks a full house, If I have Aces and go all in, someone will go in with 2,3 all in and yank two pair, its every game since I've made a rude comment about the site and told another player to play on a different site.

I still play on 3 other sites like mansionpoker dome and land in the top 30 almost 7/10 times, other sites as well, now how is that possible, what are the odds of this.

I have won a seat in the sept 17 no limit holdem on Pokerstars.com weekly two again, but this was won before I made the comment. I'm truley interest on what happens again. I'm going back right now to play two more freeroles just to show more friends( I have several that are just in complete awwww cause they have seen this for the last 5 or 6 games that they have seen) that this is true and I'm right.
  #27  
19-10-2006, 7:10 AM
withawedge
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I think Woodywoodwood has left the building

  #28  
20-10-2006, 2:56 PM
martin_macd
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Anti McDonalds Sentiment on this Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Daniels View Post
Thank you Alon, I think you've just answered a few pending questions I've had. Now some things are starting to make sense. Well, the voice agree and are telling to go seek help. Thanks.


LMAO...McDonald's cheeseburgers are rigged.
Gentlemen, as a Macdonald by name and BigMac by nature (), I find it of utmost importance giving the stance of everyones favourite industrial obesity dealers.

Here at Macdonalds Central - we only condone rigging of Cheesburgers, chrispy mcbacons and ofcourse, the McNuggets (which have never even seen a chicken). If you want to experience true McGastronomy, the quarterpounder is the only one with the guarantee of authenticity as checked by Auditors PwC, thawte verified, and a truly random cut selection (RCS).

Hope this clears it all up. Keep picking at pokerstars everyone, Im sure they will own up in the end to the tirade against succesefull freeroll people to try and maintain profitability!
  #29  
26-10-2006, 3:20 AM
Blackstone3
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I agree that the freerolls are "fixed." I have lost three times this evening and three times last evening to flushes after going all in with a high pair. Seems that having 2 suited cards going to flushes is 1 in 23. Wow, that 1-23 happens a lot. Too many flushes, too many straights. Just remember that you can LEARN on the internet, you just cannot win. I prefer the Borgata or the Trop with my real money.
Blackstone3/
  #30  
26-10-2006, 9:22 AM
Dorkus Malorkus
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oh god this thread is hilarious
  #31  
26-10-2006, 10:56 AM
stealthy1
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I think this thread is rigged.
  #32  
26-10-2006, 11:53 AM
martin_macd
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackstone3 View Post
I agree that the freerolls are "fixed." I have lost three times this evening and three times last evening to flushes after going all in with a high pair. Seems that having 2 suited cards going to flushes is 1 in 23. Wow, that 1-23 happens a lot. Too many flushes, too many straights. Just remember that you can LEARN on the internet, you just cannot win. I prefer the Borgata or the Trop with my real money.
Blackstone3/
Rubbish. There are plenty of professional and semi professional online poker players whom have never seen a b&m casino.

If anything was rigged, dont you think that the variance would show up in at least one persons pokertracker or pokeroffice?

my suggestion is that you need to play tighter and watch for people chasing straights and flushes, which internet players are more likely to do that casino players, probably because of the "virtual" aspect of the chips in play.
  #33  
26-10-2006, 12:09 PM
F Paulsson
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I wish someone had told me sooner that I cannot win on the internet. Would've saved me a lot of time.
  #34  
26-10-2006, 1:40 PM
dakota-xx
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What a great way to start the day! My puppy tried to wake me up, my husband tried to wake me - but this thread has me laughing so hard I will never go back to sleep!!
  #35  
25-09-2007, 11:01 AM
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I Can't Take It anymore

Quote:
Originally Posted by vwt2 View Post
WOW, Thats amazing. Out of thousands of people you're the ONLY one who made a rude comment. I'd devote thousands of $$$ and and endless employee hours to target you and screw you over in a freeroll!!!
Out of 30,000+ players online at PokerStars (during off peak hrs.)
I makes total sense that there has to be someone that targets PokerStars slanderers. Of Course there are..