Are the freeroll games on PokerStars.com FRAUD

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  #1
9th September 2006, 6:28 AM
woodywoodwood
 
Online Poker at: mansionpoker
Game: holdem
Are the freeroll games on PokerStars.com FRAUD

This site, and I play everyday, between four poker sites, I place here and there, but recently on Pokerstars.com I made some rude comments during the game and now for 17 straight freeroll holdem games I have been rivered on the first. second, third, fourth or fifth hand I play. Guys I'm talking if I have aces, they get a flush, if I get a flush, they get straight flush, if after the turn I have a set, then on the river they hit a full house. GENTLEMEN, THIS HAS HAPPEND 17 TIMES IN THE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH OR FIFTH HAND i PLAY ON POKERSTARS.COM SINCE I MADE A RUDE COMMENT ABOUT THE SITE AND TOLD ANOTHER PLAYER TO PLAY ON A DIFFERENT SITE.

SO I always had great response from their support team when ever I have had any questions. So I ask them on a email and told them that I would like to confirm that thier play money games are monitored by a respectable casino security of some sort, and they have not replied.

I am 100% convinced that freeroles on pokerstars are acceptable to pokerstars.com employees to fix hands on individuals that they decide to do to.

I'm not a quack, before this incident I have made it to the weekly two freeroll(which you must go through 10,000 people to get access) three times in the last two months.

Now remember this is happening in the first five hands that I play, If I have two kings, someone goes in with 3 9 and yanks a full house, If I have Aces and go all in, someone will go in with 2,3 all in and yank two pair, its every game since I've made a rude comment about the site and told another player to play on a different site.

I still play on 3 other sites like mansionpoker dome and land in the top 30 almost 7/10 times, other sites as well, now how is that possible, what are the odds of this.

I have won a seat in the sept 17 no limit holdem on Pokerstars.com weekly two again, but this was won before I made the comment. I'm truley interest on what happens again. I'm going back right now to play two more freeroles just to show more friends( I have several that are just in complete awwww cause they have seen this for the last 5 or 6 games that they have seen) that this is true and I'm right.
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  #2
9th September 2006, 1:19 PM
Dorkus Malorkus
 
Poker at: Stars
Game: yes
Quote:
SO I always had great response from their support team when ever I have had any questions. So I ask them on a email and told them that I would like to confirm that thier play money games are monitored by a respectable casino security of some sort, and they have not replied.
ahahahahhahahahahahhahaa
  #3
9th September 2006, 3:15 PM
robwhufc
 
Have you tried typing "Pokerstars is the best site and all the other poker sites suck" to see if they'll remove the fix?
  #4
9th September 2006, 4:10 PM
whyareunvs
 
Poker at: Donk Central
Game: HORSE
This sounds about par for the course for the 10,000 person free rolls not something that is rigged. If pokerstars employees rig the game then they have way too much time on their hands and regardless of how much time they may have; I doubt they'd rig the game. Bad beats happen, but if you're going all-in preflop then you're accepting that someone may suck out on you.


my .02
  #5
9th September 2006, 6:06 PM
gord962
 
Online Poker at: Stars
Game: NLHE
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodywoodwood
I am 100% convinced that freeroles on pokerstars.com are acceptable to pokerstars.com employees to fix hands on individuals that they decide to do to.
That's exactly what the employees at PokerStars do. They monitor those who play free roles and rig their hands. Since this is where the company makes all it's money, they decide to target 1 person who made a negative comment and make his freeroll life a living hell. I can't believe you discovered their secret!!!!
  #6
9th September 2006, 6:34 PM
rottyowner65
 
Poker at: 2many2name1
Game: 2girlsATonce
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodywoodwood
GENTLEMEN, THIS HAS HAPPEND 17 TIMES IN THE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH OR FIFTH HAND i PLAY ON POKERSTARS.COM SINCE I MADE A RUDE COMMENT ABOUT THE SITE AND TOLD ANOTHER PLAYER TO PLAY ON A DIFFERENT SITE.
I'm not a quack ROFLMAO
Now remember this is happening in the first five hands that I play
I have won a seat in the sept 17 no limit holdem on Pokerstars.com weekly two again, but this was won before I made the comment. I'm truley interest on what happens again. I'm going back right now to play two more freeroles just to show more friends( I have several that are just in complete awwww cause they have seen this for the last 5 or 6 games that they have seen) that this is true and I'm right.
My god, i hope you have learned by now to fold the first 5 hands that you see.
  #7
11th September 2006, 3:55 AM
BKrywko1
 
Online Poker at: Poker Stars
Game: Stud Hi-Lo
re: Are the freeroll games on PokerStars.com FRAUD

Online poker is rigged, just accept it and your stress level will be at a much healthier level. </sarcasm>

Christ, it's rather pathetic to be complaining about friggin' freerolls being rigged on a site, isn't it?
  #8
11th September 2006, 4:54 PM
Jack Daniels
 
Poker at: home.
Game: Da Bears
Quote:
Originally Posted by robwhufc
Have you tried typing "Pokerstars is the best site and all the other poker sites suck" to see if they'll remove the fix?
Quote:
Originally Posted by gord962
That's exactly what the employees at PokerStars do. They monitor those who play free roles and rig their hands. Since this is where the company makes all it's money, they decide to target 1 person who made a negative comment and make his freeroll life a living hell. I can't believe you discovered their secret!!!!
ROTFLMAO....Pokerstars is rigged.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rottyowner65
My god, i hope you have learned by now to fold the first 5 hands that you see.
This is the best advice. Their rigged program only looks for your user name and the first five hands. After that, you're home free.
  #9
11th September 2006, 5:15 PM
withawedge
 
Online Poker at: Poker Stars
Game: Holdem
Sit out the first 5 hands and then join in the DONK FEST.

If you are lucky perhaps you will not yet have posted the blinds

If that is not acceptable try wearing some of these so they do not recognise you

  #10
11th September 2006, 5:36 PM
vwt2
 
Poker at: bigbonusbuck
Game: Holdem
WOW, Thats amazing. Out of thousands of people you're the ONLY one who made a rude comment. I'd devote thousands of $$$ and and endless employee hours to target you and screw you over in a freeroll!!!
  #11
11th September 2006, 6:27 PM
Effexor
 
Online Poker at: FTP. Stars
Game: Ice Cream
The problem I see here, is that even if you make amends with the site, and start spewing out accolades, they can still use their satellites to find out what you are REALLY thinking.

I'd suggest this:

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
  #12
12th September 2006, 12:41 AM
Jack Daniels
 
Poker at: home.
Game: Da Bears
Quote:
Originally Posted by Effexor
The problem I see here, is that even if you make amends with the site, and start spewing out accolades, they can still use their satellites to find out what you are REALLY thinking.

I'd suggest this:

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
Dude, I have one of these. They work great except at Ultimatebet.
  #13
12th September 2006, 1:20 AM
Alon Ipser
 
Online Poker at: Stars
Don't wear the aluminum beanies. Scientific studies have proven that they don't let the brain waves out and the brain waves just bounce around in your head like it's a microwave oven. This can cause schizophrenia, sterility and the desire to go all in preflop with a K9 suited. I myself have gone to the aluminum umbrella hat. It lets the brain waves out but deflects them to the ground so satellites and aliens can't read my mind.
  #14
12th September 2006, 7:17 PM
PocketMG
 
Poker at: Aboslute
Game: holdem
re: Are the freeroll games on PokerStars.com FRAUD

NO NO NO NO really im convince that McDonalds noes that i hate pickles so they put 1 underneath the meat patty aswell as one of top of the cheese ( in a cheese burger ) so they trick me into biting into those awful tasting things..


cheeeeeers

P.S i really do hate pickles and if i could rid this beautiful world of them i would.

P.P.S for all those pickle lovers out there... You want a war BRING IT ON lmao
  #15
12th September 2006, 7:21 PM
juiceeQ
 
Online Poker at: Poker Stars
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by PocketMG
P.P.S for all those pickle lovers out there... You want a war BRING IT ON lmao
If it's war you want, it's war you'll get!! Back off my dill pickles dude!
  #16
12th September 2006, 7:25 PM
PocketMG
 
Poker at: Aboslute
Game: holdem
AHHHHH JuiceeQ u wanna go up against the amateur Pocket ahh ..well ill be stopping the Q where i want lol

BRING IT lmao
  #17
12th September 2006, 7:29 PM
juiceeQ
 
Online Poker at: Poker Stars
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by PocketMG
AHHHHH JuiceeQ u wanna go up against the amateur Pocket ahh ..well ill be stopping the Q where i want lol

BRING IT lmao
How about a compromise? We get rid of all the nasty sweet pickles and bread & butter pickles ...save the dill!

(My this thread has really gotten off topic...)
  #18
12th September 2006, 7:32 PM
Welly
 
Poker at: Party/Tilt
Game: All forms
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodywoodwood
So I ask them on a email and told them that I would like to confirm that thier play money games are monitored by a respectable casino security of some sort, and they have not replied.
.
.
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I still play on 3 other sites like mansionpoker dome and land in the top 30 almost 7/10 times, other sites as well, now how is that possible, what are the odds of this.
I simply cant believe they would ignore such an email. Surely they would at least circulate it to their friends.

As it seems you have a 70% ITM on Mansion and other sites, I would suggest sticking to them.
  #19
12th September 2006, 7:34 PM
PocketMG
 
Online Poker at: Aboslute
Game: holdem
ummmm ok..sure...whats a dill?? or whos the dill

( and yeah we have turned the thread...YES!!!!!)
  #20
12th September 2006, 7:34 PM
juiceeQ
 
Poker at: Poker Stars
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by PocketMG
ummmm ok..sure...whats a dill?? or whos the dill

( and yeah we have turned the thread...YES!!!!!)
In my eyes dill pickles are the ONLY pickles.
  #21
12th September 2006, 7:39 PM
PocketMG
 
Online Poker at: Aboslute
Game: holdem
re: Are the freeroll games on PokerStars.com FRAUD

ahhh i get it now
  #22
13th September 2006, 1:14 PM
chrisarm26
 
Poker at: 7sultans
Game: holdem
After reading this thread I am glad I joined cause I couldnt stop laughing. (sigh).......thanks
  #23
13th September 2006, 2:00 PM
holly27
 
Online Poker at: absolute
Game: omaha
im really glad i joined after what ijust read looks like everybody here is willing to listen to any problem an try to fix it.....
  #24
16th September 2006, 2:03 AM
vwt2
 
Poker at: bigbonusbuck
Game: Holdem
McDonalds uses synthetic pickles LOL
  #25
16th September 2006, 8:08 AM
Jack Daniels
 
Online Poker at: home.
Game: Da Bears
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alon Ipser
Don't wear the aluminum beanies. Scientific studies have proven that they don't let the brain waves out and the brain waves just bounce around in your head like it's a microwave oven. This can cause schizophrenia, sterility and the desire to go all in preflop with a K9 suited.
Thank you Alon, I think you've just answered a few pending questions I've had. Now some things are starting to make sense. Well, the voice agree and are telling to go seek help. Thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PocketMG
NO NO NO NO really im convince that McDonalds noes that i hate pickles so they put 1 underneath the meat patty aswell as one of top of the cheese ( in a cheese burger ) so they trick me into biting into those awful tasting things..
LMAO...McDonald's cheeseburgers are rigged.
  #26
14th October 2006, 8:49 PM
stocki
 
Hello! First of all i have to say that I´m very sorry for my bad knowledge english language!
Woody, I´m 100% with you. And I say, that it is not only in Freerolls like you said. It occures to me also in in sit&go´s and tournaments! They want to make turneys faster and that is why they help higher stack. The last three days i played about 30 sit&go´s and many things like this occured to me (KK vs AQ, all in in flop, AQ has higher stack and in turn there was the A) and this is happened not one time, it happened MANY times. I know, it can happen sometimes, but not so many times like on POKERSTARS. In my opinion is it a FRAUD. I send them a mail, and they told me everything is ok, all hands are running random, but in asked some players and they are the same opinion.
greetings, andy!

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodywoodwood
This site, and I play everyday, between four sites, I place here and there, but recently on Pokerstars.com I made some rude comments during the game and now for 17 straight freeroll holdem games I have been rivered on the first. second, third, fourth or fifth hand I play. Guys I'm talking if I have aces, they get a flush, if I get a flush, they get straight flush, if after the turn I have a set, then on the river they hit a full house. GENTLEMEN, THIS HAS HAPPEND 17 TIMES IN THE FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH OR FIFTH HAND i PLAY ON POKERSTARS.COM SINCE I MADE A RUDE COMMENT ABOUT THE SITE AND TOLD ANOTHER PLAYER TO PLAY ON A DIFFERENT SITE.

SO I always had great response from their support team when ever I have had any questions. So I ask them on a email and told them that I would like to confirm that thier play money games are monitored by a respectable casino security of some sort, and they have not replied.

I am 100% convinced that freeroles on pokerstars.com are acceptable to pokerstars.com employees to fix hands on individuals that they decide to do to.

I'm not a quack, before this incident I have made it to the weekly two freeroll(which you must go through 10,000 people to get access) three times in the last two months.

Now remember this is happening in the first five hands that I play, If I have two kings, someone goes in with 3 9 and yanks a full house, If I have Aces and go all in, someone will go in with 2,3 all in and yank two pair, its every game since I've made a rude comment about the site and told another player to play on a different site.

I still play on 3 other sites like mansionpoker dome and land in the top 30 almost 7/10 times, other sites as well, now how is that possible, what are the odds of this.

I have won a seat in the sept 17 no limit holdem on Pokerstars.com weekly two again, but this was won before I made the comment. I'm truley interest on what happens again. I'm going back right now to play two more freeroles just to show more friends( I have several that are just in complete awwww cause they have seen this for the last 5 or 6 games that they have seen) that this is true and I'm right.
  #27
19th October 2006, 8:10 AM
withawedge
 
Online Poker at: Poker Stars
Game: Holdem
I think Woodywoodwood has left the building

  #28
20th October 2006, 3:56 PM
martin_macd
 
Poker at: costadelpoke
Game: NL Holdem
re: Are the freeroll games on PokerStars.com FRAUD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Daniels
Thank you Alon, I think you've just answered a few pending questions I've had. Now some things are starting to make sense. Well, the voice agree and are telling to go seek help. Thanks.


LMAO...McDonald's cheeseburgers are rigged.
Gentlemen, as a Macdonald by name and BigMac by nature (), I find it of utmost importance giving the stance of everyones favourite industrial obesity dealers.

Here at Macdonalds Central - we only condone rigging of Cheesburgers, chrispy mcbacons and ofcourse, the McNuggets (which have never even seen a chicken). If you want to experience true McGastronomy, the quarterpounder is the only one with the guarantee of authenticity as checked by Auditors PwC, thawte verified, and a truly random cut selection (RCS).

Hope this clears it all up. Keep picking at pokerstars everyone, Im sure they will own up in the end to the tirade against succesefull freeroll people to try and maintain profitability!
  #29
26th October 2006, 4:20 AM
Blackstone3
 
Online Poker at: Absolute Poker poker
Game: Omaha
I agree that the freerolls are "fixed." I have lost three times this evening and three times last evening to flushes after going all in with a high pair. Seems that having 2 suited cards going to flushes is 1 in 23. Wow, that 1-23 happens a lot. Too many flushes, too many straights. Just remember that you can LEARN on the internet, you just cannot win. I prefer the Borgata or the Trop with my real money.
Blackstone3/
  #30
26th October 2006, 10:22 AM
Dorkus Malorkus
 
Poker at: Stars
Game: yes
oh god this thread is hilarious
  #31
26th October 2006, 11:56 AM
stealthy1
 
Online Poker at: P.Stars
Game: Hold em
I think this thread is rigged.
  #32
26th October 2006, 12:53 PM
martin_macd
 
Poker at: costadelpoke
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackstone3
I agree that the freerolls are "fixed." I have lost three times this evening and three times last evening to flushes after going all in with a high pair. Seems that having 2 suited cards going to flushes is 1 in 23. Wow, that 1-23 happens a lot. Too many flushes, too many straights. Just remember that you can LEARN on the internet, you just cannot win. I prefer the Borgata or the Trop with my real money.
Blackstone3/
Rubbish. There are plenty of professional and semi professional online poker players whom have never seen a b&m casino.

If anything was rigged, dont you think that the variance would show up in at least one persons pokertracker or pokeroffice?

my suggestion is that you need to play tighter and watch for people chasing straights and flushes, which internet players are more likely to do that casino players, probably because of the "virtual" aspect of the chips in play.
  #33
26th October 2006, 1:09 PM
F Paulsson
 
I wish someone had told me sooner that I cannot win on the internet. Would've saved me a lot of time.
  #34
26th October 2006, 2:40 PM
dakota-xx
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: NL Holdem
What a great way to start the day! My puppy tried to wake me up, my husband tried to wake me - but this thread has me laughing so hard I will never go back to sleep!!
  #35
25th September 2007, 12:01 PM
Flops'm&Bets'm
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Holdem&Omaha
re: Are the freeroll games on PokerStars.com FRAUD

Quote:
Originally Posted by vwt2
WOW, Thats amazing. Out of thousands of people you're the ONLY one who made a rude comment. I'd devote thousands of $$$ and and endless employee hours to target you and screw you over in a freeroll!!!
Out of 30,000+ players online at PokerStars (during off peak hrs.)
I makes total sense that there has to be someone that targets PokerStars slanderers. Of Course there are...90% are answering emails. 9% are moderating the FreePlay chat boxes for abuse of Chat and foriegn language 'collusion' (LOL) 1% of the staff are settling deals at final tables with chip count Prize Chop #'s -- and Lee Jones is in the Staff Lounge, Chillin' from the WCOOP (parties) waiting for the next Sunday Million.

I have made the Weekly Round 2, six times in 10 months. And I bad mouth PokerStars All the time in the chat box. I Probably could have more than 6 if I 'Really' put more effort into them.
...But I go All-in with (6-3, 6-4, 6-5, suited) with 4 All-In take down the Pot with 6 high straight. Vs. 4 hands that have A-x combination. LOL
I played once where me and another player were laughing all way to Level 16-Blinds/antes, about the 'conspiracy chat box theory' and predicting the RNG's next flop is gonna be...or playing ridiculous cards and say "I GOT this one Pkt-_-_'s" and then folding the hand..we had a riot, as we played the same table since the start and not getting moved. Which is rare in freerolls.

And then there's the 'Rogue Ninja Freeroll punisher' creeping around the PokerStars mainframe,
"wOOt,wOOt,wOOt, Freeroll will start in 1 min. as the 'Rogue Ninja' puts down his ham & cheese sandwich, and scrolls the names of 'Red' Listed Pokerstars Players in the Freeroll...and enters in the RNG code..set value of
Hand "Top 5 Rank starting Hands" for these players...set the flop for pocket 3's to hit the set, or 6-4 suited to hit the straight..if All-In happens...

I Bad mouth PokerStars All the Time.
But I mention them in this Forum so much regarding Freerolls that they are grateful for all the added traffic to their servers in Boston M.I.T, Yahoo, and Berkley, for every hit they are making money.

"From Pokerstars Support"
Thank your for your interest, we appreciate your concerns. We value your suggestions and in lieu, we are depositing 1,000,000 if Freeplay Chips into your account. Go to cashier in the Main Lobby to view your Freeplay Chip balance.

Regards, Pokerstars Support.

*P.S. we know you are bad mouthing us in the chat box. If you have a Cash account balance, be afraid, be Very afraid!!*


Last edited by Flops'm&Bets'm : 25th September 2007 at 12:05 PM. Reason: additions
 



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