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  Poker - Private Tourney at CDP
 
  #1  
27-10-2006, 5:36 PM
Egon Towst
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Private Tourney at CDP

A private tourney for CC members is being planned at Costa Del Poker (new site which goes public shortly). See this thread for background:

Poker Beta Testers Wanted

Post here any suggestions on the tournament format.

Martin (the organiser) can design it to our members` requirements.
 

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  #2  
27-10-2006, 6:14 PM
martin_macd
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Touranment Layout options

Hi All - look forward to hearing everyones opinions on this, the combination that is agreed on here is what we will go with:


Game Type:
Holdem
Omaha
Omaha H/L
Soko
7-Stud
7-Stud H/L
5 Card Draw
2-7 3-Draw
Americana
Telesina

Game Limits
NL
PL
1/2 PL
Spread
Fixed


Buy in
(this can be set at anything from 1€+.10)

Rebuy
(either none, a limited amount, or limited to a certain blind level)

Add-On
(at first break - optional)

Starting Chips
(any amount from 500 up, shall we say 2,000?)

Period Length
(in mins; 5, 8, 10, 12, 15)

My suggestion is NL Holdem, 2k starting chips, no rebuys, no addons, 12 minute blind levels

Comments please people!

Last edited by martin_macd : 27-10-2006 at 6:15 PM. Reason: removed inital quote - unnecesary
  #3  
27-10-2006, 6:21 PM
martin_macd
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Value Added Element

Just another quick note - (providing buyin is at least 5€, dont want this to become a freeroll free-for-all!) i will add 200€ into the tournament prize pool for the first two weeks - if we have a good response I will increase it after that.
  #4  
27-10-2006, 6:27 PM
ChuckTs
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I'm down

Will have to take a look at CDP still, as I haven't yet tried the site out.

My vote would be for $5 or $10 NLHE Freezout (no R&A) with 2000 starting chips and anywhere above 10 min. blinds.
  #5  
27-10-2006, 6:53 PM
rottyowner65
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Rottyowner is getting a bit jealous right about now.
But,, happy for my friends from other countries..
  #6  
27-10-2006, 7:03 PM
aloevera
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I've been playing there now for over a week, the site is o.k. Took the free 20 offered and have been playing with that ever since. Lots of freerolls every 1/2 hr. easy crowd to beat. I play on another site which is linked to this one Montreal Poker Club. Been there for about 6 months now, never any problems. Not sure about there customer service as I have not yet had a problem.
  #7  
27-10-2006, 7:06 PM
martin_macd
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aloevera View Post
I've been playing there now for over a week, the site is o.k. Took the free 20 offered and have been playing with that ever since. Lots of freerolls every 1/2 hr. easy crowd to beat. I play on another site which is linked to this one Montreal Poker Club. Been there for about 6 months now, never any problems. Not sure about there customer service as I have not yet had a problem.
Lovely bunch my Beta Testers. Lovely.
  #8  
27-10-2006, 7:13 PM
Egon Towst
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If this takes off and develops into a regular event, I suggest a title award to the best player of each year (or season ?).

"Costa Cardschat Champ 2006" or whatever the members think good.

How about after each round, points as follows:

Finished in top half - 1 point
Made Final Table - 3 points
Tourney Winner - 5 points

At the end of the season, top 10 scorers play a SNG Grand Final for the title.
  #9  
27-10-2006, 8:04 PM
martin_macd
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Proposed League Layout



Hmmm - Costa Cardschat Championship (CCC) ??-

howsabout three month seasons, points been awarded as follows:

Winner = "x"Points + 10
Second = "x"Points + 6
Third = "x"Points + 4
Fourth = = "x"Points + 2
Last Table = "x"Points
11th = "x"points -10
12th = "x"points -11
13th = "x"points -12
14th = "x"points -13
15th = "x"points -14
and so on, WHERE "x" = Total number of Tournament Entrants

SO IF THERE WERE 25 ENTRANTS:
1st = 35 points
2nd = 31 points
3rd = 29 points
4th = 27 points
5th thru 10th = 25 points
11th = 15
12th = 14
13th = 13
14th = 12
15th = 11
16th = 10
so on....

* I realise this is a bit contrived, but I could make it work fairly seamlessly (I could write it up into a league table to go on a members only section of my website, and update it by importing the tournament results)

** My reasoning for this is so that it makes it possible to get into the top ten with consistent performances rather than needing to win the tournaments.



Now - depending on the turnout for these, we could do something like an end of season 500€ to 1000€ STT Freeroll, with the ultimate winner being named Cardschats almost god like player of the season, not to be messed with and to be afforded ultimate respect at poker and in general life. Hell Ill even have that engraved on the trophy!!



PokerStars. would it work for everyone if we did it on Sundays, say two hours before the big buyin events at pokerstars and party? - and perhaps we could have a smaller buyin midweek league event as well....

  #10  
27-10-2006, 8:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin_macd View Post
My reasoning for this is so that it makes it possible to get into the top ten with consistent performances rather than needing to win the tournaments.
Yes, I think that`s the important principle, whatever the final details. If it`s slewed too far towards outright wins, I think that will tend to discourage entries by making it seem unattainable for middle-of-the-road players.

Quote:
Originally Posted by martin_macd View Post
would it work for everyone if we did it on Sundays, say two hours before the big buyin events at pokerstars and party? - and perhaps we could have a smaller buyin midweek league event as well....
Sounds ok. The difficulty we face is that we are likely to have two main groups of entrants, one from the UK and another from Canada, and of course there is a significant time difference.

Weekends should be OK for everyone, but in the week we might need to put it at a fairly late hour (say 10 or 11pm UK time) in order that it`s not in the middle of the afternoon for our Transatlantic chums.
  #11  
27-10-2006, 8:46 PM
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You know i'll be there

I love costadel
  #12  
27-10-2006, 9:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Xife View Post
You know i'll be there

I love costadel
awww shucks! CostaDel loves you to!
  #13  
27-10-2006, 9:29 PM
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Originally Posted by martin_macd View Post
awww shucks! CostaDel loves you to!
everyone knew that what I meant by that was, I love the FISH at costadel! Jk I love costadel.
  #14  
27-10-2006, 10:43 PM
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Ooo! Ooo! Me!! I have a suggestion!

Open this up to US players as well? Pretty please?
  #15  
27-10-2006, 10:55 PM
Egon Towst
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Originally Posted by juiceeQ View Post
Open this up to US players as well? Pretty please?
We`d love to have you guys play in this, JQ. The parent network won`t allow it, something about some monkey name of Frist.
  #16  
27-10-2006, 11:30 PM
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Everybody dumped on Titan, Party, Paradise and the lot for dropping US players and here's a site that's starting up and doesn't want the US players but it's a great site. Quite frankly, CostaDel can kma too.
  #17  
27-10-2006, 11:36 PM
martin_macd
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Quote:
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Everybody dumped on Titan, Party, Paradise and the lot for dropping US players and here's a site that's starting up and doesn't want the US players but it's a great site. Quite frankly, CostaDel can kma too.
Hi Alon, not much I can do about it, Ive petitioned the network and even offered to take legal responsibility with my own gaming license but until senator Frist gets his head out of a bodily orifice big enough to contain it, there is nothing I can do.

I would love to have US players, from my perspective Im starting a new business, and the american market is still over 50% of the world internet market - trust me Im more pissed at this than you!
  #18  
27-10-2006, 11:38 PM
Egon Towst
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alon Ipser View Post
here's a site that's starting up and doesn't want the US players ..... CostaDel can kma too.
I understand your frustration, but it`s really not their fault.

If you check the other thread (link in the opener), you`ll see that Martin, who built the site, wanted Americans in and feels, just like us, that Frist should "go forth and multiply".

But, if he goes that route, the network will shut him down. What can he do ?

Edit: Snap !! I see Martin was 2 mins ahead of me, lol.
  #19  
27-10-2006, 11:53 PM
Alon Ipser
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I see plenty of other sites that still accept US players but not Costa. And a private tourny for CC members. I'm a CC member and loyaler. Am I invited? No? What I said stands.
  #20  
28-10-2006, 12:55 AM
martin_macd
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alon Ipser View Post
I see plenty of other sites that still accept US players but not Costa. And a private tourny for CC members. I'm a CC member and loyaler. Am I invited? No? What I said stands.
I appreciate your frustration - but being an invited guest ultimately doesnt change my networks rules, which I unfortionately have to adhere to.

Every other site on the network is marketed exclusively outside the US, so to them if there is any possibility of future legal problems in including american based customers, then its easiest for them to just deny US players.

If the legal situation in the states changes then the network will allow new accounts from the states.

Until then there is nothing I can do, apart from perhaps rename the competition to the

"Costa Cardschat Rest of World Apart from the USA Championship".

martin.

---***---Edit: Yeah that works, the C.C.R.O.W.A.F.U.! Lets print the T-shirts now!,---***---
  #21  
28-10-2006, 12:58 AM
martin_macd
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceeQ View Post
Ooo! Ooo! Me!! I have a suggestion!

Open this up to US players as well? Pretty please?
Hi JQ - again, sorry - as per the above posts this is non US only for the time being.


Martin,
  #22  
28-10-2006, 1:01 AM
martin_macd
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getting back on thread

Just Trying to get the thread "Back on Thread":


Quote:
Originally Posted by martin_macd View Post


Hmmm - Costa Cardschat Championship (CCC) ??-

howsabout three month seasons, points been awarded as follows:

Winner = "x"Points + 10
Second = "x"Points + 6
Third = "x"Points + 4
Fourth = = "x"Points + 2
Last Table = "x"Points
11th = "x"points -10
12th = "x"points -11
13th = "x"points -12
14th = "x"points -13
15th = "x"points -14
and so on, WHERE "x" = Total number of Tournament Entrants

SO IF THERE WERE 25 ENTRANTS:
1st = 35 points
2nd = 31 points
3rd = 29 points
4th = 27 points
5th thru 10th = 25 points
11th = 15
12th = 14
13th = 13
14th = 12
15th = 11
16th = 10
so on....
Anyway - what does anyone think of the proposed system? any changes? any suggestions?

Also - re. tournament layout - some more suggestions please people!

thanks!

martin.

Last edited by martin_macd : 28-10-2006 at 1:02 AM. Reason: spelling mistakes... tut tut. so amateurish...
  #23  
28-10-2006, 1:05 AM
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I don't care about sites holding tournies and adding money and not allowing US players. And I realize that this isn't Martin's fault.

But as a CC member, I have am having a childishly difficult time accepting that this tourney will bear the CardsChat name of any sort of Championship, etc, blah blah blah. If it isn't held somewhere that allows all to participate, then just make it a private tourney and invite only those that don't have asshole politicians make retarded decisions for the rest of us. but leave the CardsChat name off to avoid slighting the rest of the membership. </childish rant>
  #24  
28-10-2006, 1:11 AM
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Originally Posted by juiceeQ View Post
Ooo! Ooo! Me!! I have a suggestion!

Open this up to US players as well? Pretty please?
^^^^^^^^^
  #25  
28-10-2006, 1:12 AM
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Originally Posted by martin_macd View Post
If the legal situation in the states changes then the network will allow new accounts from the states.
Don't count on me. I'm done with you now.
  #26  
28-10-2006, 8:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Daniels View Post
leave the CardsChat name off to avoid slighting the rest of the membership.
We can certainly do that, if people are upset by it. Perhaps it is wrong of us to suggest that this tourney has any "official" link with the forum, since it`s not something that was initiated by Nick.

Those of us who have been involved in both threads about CDP, and in the email correspondence, know that Martin has been generous, open and helpful about inviting CC members to test and to enjoy his poker room.

If any of the rooms which do accept US players had been as active in approaching us, I`m sure we would have been even more pleased. But, they haven`t.

We are all, even those of us not directly affected, unhappy about the American legislation. The problem is not Martin`s fault. Please let`s not reward his efforts by being rude to him.
  #27  
28-10-2006, 10:45 AM
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really cant be bothered to read this now, cause if Martin's started it, then it will be blah, blah, blah, blah, poker, blah, blah blah, sheep, etc.



Joking, dont ban me yet.
Will read it after Ive cooked breakkie, and had a shower. Martin, if its cc tournaments, Im in, but fix it so I win, these b*stards are all gonna be gunning for bigmouth here.
KD
  #28  
28-10-2006, 10:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Egon Towst View Post
We can certainly do that, if people are upset by it. Perhaps it is wrong of us to suggest that this tourney has any "official" link with the forum, since it`s not something that was initiated by Nick.......
I agree ( and sorry to any american players whom feel "left out", but come on kids, lets not fight ;-)

Howsabout the "CostaDelPoker Invitational" then? Jees.....

Anyway - lets stop focussing on the name, and lets start working out how to administer the tournament.

thanks!

martin.

Last edited by juiceeQ : 28-10-2006 at 5:50 PM.
  #29  
28-10-2006, 6:48 PM
aloevera
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Egon Towst View Post
We can certainly do that, if people are upset by it. Perhaps it is wrong of us to suggest that this tourney has any "official" link with the forum, since it`s not something that was initiated by Nick.

Those of us who have been involved in both threads about CDP, and in the email correspondence, know that Martin has been generous, open and helpful about inviting CC members to test and to enjoy his poker room.

If any of the rooms which do accept US players had been as active in approaching us, I`m sure we would have been even more pleased. But, they haven`t.

We are all, even those of us not directly affected, unhappy about the American legislation. The problem is not Martin`s fault. Please let`s not reward his efforts by being rude to him.
I agree, Were all upset about the u.s. not being able to participate in this or other events, I personally have been effected by it because Titan Freeroll frenzy was or is cancelled this month due to it. In top position with my partner, and now have to give it up because of u.s. players. It's none of our faults, but do we really have to bad mouth every site that cannot except u.s. players, because they are following the law. I believe your gov't(whom the people voted for) did this to you guys, start lashing out at them. Martin has been a perfect gentlemen and have treated us all with dignity and has been very generous.
U.S. Players find a site that excepts u and all. and get them to start up the same kind of thing there private CC. I don't see anythreads here of anything close to that. The rest of the world must go on. And if it is a CC event for the rest of the world Y can't we use the CC name. It's for CC members isn't it.
Now to get on with the real reason for this thread. I think that the 5.00 buy in is plenty enough for me. if it's too high than won't get too much of a response!! Martin and Egon since NICK is the HONCHO hear someone should pm him and let him know whats up. Especially if the CC name is involved.
Wouldn't want to get banned lol.
  #30  
28-10-2006, 6:56 PM
martin_macd
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Quote:
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I agree, Were...........Martin and Egon since NICK is the HONCHO hear someone should pm him and let him know whats up. Especially if the CC name is involved.
Wouldn't want to get banned lol.
Hi there, I agree, and to that effect I have sent Nick an email now, and I will desist from making any further comments or posts on the thread until he has confirmed back to me that its OK to proceed.

You guys have been good to me, and I dont want to put anyones noses out of joint, as I would like to advertise here in the future when a slot is available.

So, please discuss amongst yourselves for now, and I will get back to you as soon as I get authorisation from Nick.

cheers,

martin.
  #31  
28-10-2006, 7:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martin_macd View Post
but come on kids, lets not fight ;-)

Howsabout the "CostaDelPoker Invitational" then? Jees.....

Anyway - lets stop focussing on the name, and lets start working out how to administer the tournament.

thanks!

martin.
Quote:
Originally Posted by martin_macd View Post
Hi there, I agree, and to that effect I have sent Nick an email now, and I will desist from making any further comments or posts on the thread until he has confirmed back to me that its OK to proceed.

You guys have been good to me, and I dont want to put anyones noses out of joint, as I would like to advertise here in the future when a slot is available.

So, please discuss amongst yourselves for now, and I will get back to you as soon as I get authorisation from Nick.

cheers,

martin.
Yeah, well.

What Alon said. I'm done with the thread and the site.
  #32  
28-10-2006, 7:17 PM