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: Count bodog results (they don't allow Canadians)
yes 15 30.61%
no 23 46.94%
cake 6 12.24%
bastard! 5 10.20%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

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  Poker - Prize money for the FR leaderboards!!!
 
  #1  
13-01-2008, 2:45 PM
kcanuck
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Prize money for the FR leaderboards!!!

I contacted Nick and he has agreed (without hesitation) to provide cash prizes for the quarterly leaderboard winners. The prizes will be as follows:

1st $25
2nd $15
3rd $10

....handed out every 3 months starting at the end of March (yes, any freeroll results you have had in 2008 count towards the first quarter).

I'm planning to run a top ten results leaderboard in exactly the same way that BeardyIan runs the buy-ins. His set-up seems to work very well so why not follow the tried and true.

I'll be back to post the rules and names list as they stand now. There might be some small details to iron out now that there's $$$ involved (for example should Bodog be included).

Any input or suggestions?
 

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  #2  
13-01-2008, 2:53 PM
dakota-xx
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Well Bodog is included in the buy-in -though I have always felt we should only include sites that allow all players - especially if it is total points.

Thanks for taking this on -it will be fun for those who play freerolls.
  #3  
13-01-2008, 3:04 PM
Trent's Momm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota-xx View Post
Well Bodog is included in the buy-in -though I have always felt we should only include sites that allow all players - especially if it is total points.

Thanks for taking this on -it will be fun for those who play freerolls.
I agree. Since we will be playing for cash prizes, it seems like the fair way to do it. But hey, like I'm gonna get any of that money.
  #4  
14-01-2008, 10:24 AM
benevg
CardsChat Regular
 
Location: Sofia, Bulgaria
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hmmm... well, i personally don't have an account on tilt, does that mean it's out? i think it should be in. then again...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trent's Momm View Post
But hey, like I'm gonna get any of that money.
^^^ says it all.
  #5  
14-01-2008, 1:58 PM
kcanuck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benevg View Post
hmmm... well, i personally don't have an account on tilt, does that mean it's out? i think it should be in. then again...


^^^ says it all.
Are you excluded from tilt or do you chose not to play there? There's a big difference.
  #6  
14-01-2008, 2:50 PM
beardyian
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My 2 pence piece

With the way the LB - and now FRLB - is the sites become less important, as with the amount of games played are not so important as it is down to performance in the games that you play.

Plus there are plenty of opportunities in a week to score some points and so with the best 10 game boards there is less pressure to play every game.
  #7  
14-01-2008, 3:50 PM
buckster436
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beardyian View Post
My 2 pence piece

With the way the LB - and now FRLB - is the sites become less important, as with the amount of games played are not so important as it is down to performance in the games that you play.

Plus there are plenty of opportunities in a week to score some points and so with the best 10 game boards there is less pressure to play every game.
I agree with ian, we now have multiple games per week to earn points,,, buck
  #8  
14-01-2008, 3:54 PM
dj11
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My personal dislike of bodog should not guide my vote, and it didn't. I see no bastards, and since I like Cake, both edible, and playable, I vote cake.
  #9  
14-01-2008, 5:36 PM
kcanuck
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Here is the names list I'm checking against
Attachment 7752

If your name is not there, one of these three things has happened:

1. You didn't sign up.

2. You were signed up but didn't play for an extended period and I stopped looking for you.

3. I screwed up .

Please post any missing info or sign up in this thread.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg player names JPEG.jpg (271.2 KB, 165 views)
  #10  
14-01-2008, 5:50 PM
shinedown.45
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Location: winnipeg
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Likes: hold-em
Posts: 2,662
Quote:
Originally Posted by kcanuck View Post
Here is the names list I'm checking against
Attachment 7752

If your name is not there, one of these three things has happened:

1. You didn't sign up.(for what?)

2. You were signed up but didn't play for an extended period and I stopped looking for you.

3. I screwed up .

Please post any missing info or sign up in this thread.
Pokerstars-Orion469, Ultimatebet-shinedown45, fulltilt-orion469
  #11  
14-01-2008, 6:44 PM
arahel_jazz
CardsChat Addict
 
Location: Arizona, USA
Plays at: FT, PokerStars, & Ultimatebet
Likes: Holdem
Posts: 1,278
I just don't play enough at Bodog to say "yes".
  #12  
14-01-2008, 7:00 PM
kcanuck
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Almost forgot the rules and info (open for discussion/revision).

There is only one requirement to be eligible for this, you must have 50 posts. I have previously stated that when you reach 50, your previous results in that quarter will count. Now that there's money on the line people may have a problem with that. Maybe a revision of that is in order (reaching 50 in the first 2 months?) to avoid surprise endings to the quarter.

The points will be calculated using BeardyIan's LB system. The only difference here is that you must be in the top 50% to receive points.

The combined total of each player's top ten scores at the end of each quarter will decide the prizes. In the event of a tie the person that achieved their score in the least ammount of tourneys wins.
  #13  
14-01-2008, 7:21 PM
maverick7192
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ah i was lost untill the 50 posts deal. So this is a league where you play on Poker Stars, Full Tilt, Bodog, and Ultimate Bet? At the end you combine it all up? I cannot play on Ultimate Bet and Bodog. Poker Stars I can do and Full tilt.
  #14  
14-01-2008, 7:22 PM
Cheetah
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bodog should not count to provide equal opportunities for everyone to not get one of these 3 prizes.

  #15  
14-01-2008, 7:36 PM
kcanuck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maverick7192 View Post
ah i was lost untill the 50 posts deal. So this is a league where you play on Poker Stars, Full Tilt, Bodog, and Ultimate Bet? At the end you combine it all up? I cannot play on Ultimate Bet and Bodog. Poker Stars I can do and Full tilt.
It's for the cardschat freerolls on these sites. The leaderboards started here sign up for freeroll leaderboard then went to here Freeroll Leaderboard Revived/Sign-Ups and are hosted here Cardschat Leaderboards.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheetah View Post
bodog should not count to provide equal opportunities for everyone to not get one of these 3 prizes.


Last edited by kcanuck : 14-01-2008 at 7:47 PM. Reason: added links
  #16  
14-01-2008, 8:08 PM
Trent's Momm
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Add me please.

Fulltilt - TrentsMomm
Bodog - Trents Momm
Pokerstars - Trent's Momm
Ultimate Bet - Trents Momm
  #17  
15-01-2008, 1:49 AM
burntrider
Advanced Member
 
Location: in the Ocean
Plays at: FT
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Posts: 156
im also burntrider @ bodog
  #18  
15-01-2008, 2:20 AM
pantin007
poobah
 
Posts: 3,886
add me aswell
Full Tilt Poker- pantin007
bodog-pantin007
pokerstars-jeremypantin
ultimatebet-pantin007
  #19  
15-01-2008, 2:25 PM
aliengenius
Putting 'AG' back in LAG
 
Location: Buffalo NY
Plays at: CC LB games
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Posts: 3,640
Count bodog! How many players are really effected by it? The number of people who meet all these criteria has to be minuscule:
1. they are from Canada
2. they would play a 3:30pm tournament if they were allowed
3. they have 50 posts and signed up for the board

Sorry, life ain't fair. The Titan games are counted for the buy-in board, even though they exclude a HUGE segment of cc membership (i.e., US players).
  #20  
15-01-2008, 3:47 PM
Cheetah
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aliengenius View Post
Count bodog! How many players are really effected by it? The number of people who meet all these criteria has to be minuscule:
1. they are from Canada
2. they would play a 3:30pm tournament if they were allowed
3. they have 50 posts and signed up for the board

Sorry, life ain't fair. The Titan games are counted for the buy-in board, even though they exclude a HUGE segment of cc membership (i.e., US players).
Two wrongs don't make one right. Titan should not be counted for the same reasons as bodog.
  #21  
16-01-2008, 5:15 AM
kronik22
Junior Member
 
Plays at: full tilt po
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more arguments come when free $ is involved so therefore u should count all tourneys on all sites and people who complain only care about the FREE part and not the actual point of the leaderboard which is playing good solid poker
  #22  
16-01-2008, 5:34 AM
aloevera
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Ultimatebet/Alevera

I voted cake it don't matter to me either way! Thx for taking the time to do this Dave, and to Nick for putting up the prize money!

Last edited by aloevera : 16-01-2008 at 5:43 AM.
  #23  
16-01-2008, 6:54 AM
HartAttack3
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umm i only like full tilt and maybe PokerStars too but i dont really follow to well

name on ft is I_Hart_Poker

bodog- hartattack31
  #24  
16-01-2008, 2:47 PM
onebourbon
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My Ultimatebet name isn't on the list....its 1bourbon1.
Thank you
  #25  
16-01-2008, 3:07 PM
dakota-xx
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Location: canton, ga
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Posts: 10,176
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheetah View Post
Two wrongs don't make one right. Titan should not be counted for the same reasons as bodog.
Exactly. And I might point at when it was decided to include these sites in the buy-in leaderboard the argument for it was that averages were used. Averages are no longer used so those sites should be excluded from both leaderboards.
  #26  
16-01-2008, 4:26 PM
LyndaNova
CardsChat Regular
 
Location: Live Free Or Die, NH
Posts: 308
Please feel free to add me:

Bodog: LyndaNova
FullTilt: LyndaNova

Thanks!

  #27  
16-01-2008, 8:25 PM
gord962
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Location: Edmonton
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If CC members are no eligable to play simply due to location then the site should not be counted. Last I checked there are no limitations on FT, Stars or Ultimatebet and that should be more than enough games/week.
  #28  
17-01-2008, 4:09 AM
kcanuck
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Bodog solution?

As it stands now Canadians can play in 65 events this year. Everyone else can play in 91. That's a hair over 70%.

What if Canadian participants could use their top 7 results X 1.43 to give an average for 10 weeks.

There would be less oportunities to get good results but the ones they get would be worth more. Pretty much a wash IMO.

Just a thought.
  #29  
17-01-2008, 7:58 AM
aliengenius
Putting 'AG' back in LAG
 
Location: Buffalo NY
Plays at: CC LB games
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Posts: 3,640
Quote:
Originally Posted by dakota-xx View Post
Exactly. And I might point at when it was decided to include these sites in the buy-in leaderboard the argument for it was that averages were used. Averages are no longer used so those sites should be excluded from both leaderboards.
Actually, since it's the top ten results it was decided that there are enough events available overall to include both Titan and Bodog.
  #30  
17-01-2008, 5:27 PM
gord962
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aliengenius View Post
Actually, since it's the top ten results it was decided that there are enough events available overall to include both Titan and Bodog.
If that's the case then there should be no issue. Sorry, I had breezed through the previous posts and obv missed that along the way.
  #31  
17-01-2008, 5:44 PM
Cheetah
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aliengenius View Post
Actually, since it's the top ten results it was decided that there are enough events available overall to include both Titan and Bodog.
Regardless of the formula used, if some members cannot participate in some events, they are at a disadvantage.

Clearly, the more events you play, the more likely it is to get more good finishes. So "top ten" cannot be an argument.

Either all members have the same opportunity to score(*) or not. If they are to have the same opportunity, then Bodog and Titan should not count. If they count, then the debate would be about the magnitude of the disadvantage for Canadian and US players. There is no formula that can remedy that.

__________________________________________________
(*) I mean score in poker tournaments.
  #32  
18-01-2008, 4:49 AM
IamBP
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You can add me. I am IamBP at every site, but do not have ultimate bet yet. When I do I will also be IamBP if it is not already taken.
  #33  
18-01-2008, 6:19 AM
MGiani
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One day I'll be there.....one day.
  #34  
18-01-2008, 5:10 PM
MrMuckets
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This looks like fun and i would like to sign up for it. I am MrMuckets at everysite that hasn't kicked me out cuz i'm Merikan.
  #35  
18-01-2008, 5:28 PM
NoWuckingFurries
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Quote:
The points will be calculated using BeardyIan's LB system
Where can I sift through the nittygritty of the beardyian LB system, please?
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