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  Poker - Full Tilt Poker Freerolls
 
  #1  
04-11-2007, 6:59 PM
MyGameIsOn1
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Full Tilt Poker Freerolls

Is it just me or is there always two or three people sitting out at your table in the freerolls? People who you know are logged in under multiple accounts? Is this not completely against the point of CardsChat? Is there a way to allow only CardsChat members to register? I myself am particularly frusterated because I don't get off work until 1:45/2 an registration is full by then.

I think we should either have our tourneys once every two weeks (1,800 entries) or somethin'. Any suggestions?
than=x
 

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  #2  
04-11-2007, 7:13 PM
Monoxide
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ya i missed signup too
  #3  
04-11-2007, 7:17 PM
wsorbust
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I missed it too. 900 people? I Could of swore there's only a couple hundred posters every week at best. This is weak. I blame myself.
  #4  
04-11-2007, 9:25 PM
arahel_jazz
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyGameIsOn1 View Post
Is it just me or is there always two or three people sitting out at your table in the freerolls? People who you know are logged in under multiple accounts? Is this not completely against the point of CardsChat? Is there a way to allow only CardsChat members to register? I myself am particularly frusterated because I don't get off work until 1:45/2 an registration is full by then.

than=x
That's one of the problems of having a 4-hour advance sign-up. Some folks just forget to get back in, or something comes up.
  #5  
04-11-2007, 11:57 PM
Wonka22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyGameIsOn1 View Post
Is it just me or is there always two or three people sitting out at your table in the freerolls? People who you know are logged in under multiple accounts? Is this not completely against the point of CardsChat? Is there a way to allow only CardsChat members to register? I myself am particularly frusterated because I don't get off work until 1:45/2 an registration is full by then.

I think we should either have our tourneys once every two weeks (1,800 entries) or somethin'. Any suggestions?
than=x
You mean we should DOUBLE the bullets that have to be avoided?? No thanks.
  #6  
05-11-2007, 12:04 AM
dakota-xx
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We took a poll in another thread and hardly anyone voted to increase the entrants. As a matter of fact more voted to decrease it.

It is a good size like it is. If you have somebody at home who could register for you that might be a solution.
  #7  
05-11-2007, 12:10 AM
wsorbust
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I would assume it is easy to vote to decrease the number of entrants because there are a number of "loyal" members who probably voted this way, and they would get the password ahead of time anyway. I don't think it's right that I have to hang around looking for the password for 2-3 hours because other people sign up and enter, who came to the site primarily to play in the freerolls. Probably another reason to vote a decrease. The way I see it is, people vote to decrease because they know we've got a problem and are implementing an easy fix, thus, avoiding the real issues at hand, because it probably doesn't effect them anyway. There's a nice railbird feel coming on strong here.

I can't even remember the last time I actually played in one of our freerolls. When I do make it around and catch one, it's too bad all the slots are full of people, half to three-quarters of whom, I have no idea who or where they came from. Then they sit out anyway.

Last edited by wsorbust : 05-11-2007 at 12:25 AM.
  #8  
05-11-2007, 12:53 AM
kcanuck
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Originally Posted by wsorbust View Post
I would assume it is easy to vote to decrease the number of entrants because there are a number of "loyal" members who probably voted this way, and they would get the password ahead of time anyway. I don't think it's right that I have to hang around looking for the password for 2-3 hours because other people sign up and enter, who came to the site primarily to play in the freerolls. Probably another reason to vote a decrease. The way I see it is, people vote to decrease because they know we've got a problem and are implementing an easy fix, thus, avoiding the real issues at hand, because it probably doesn't effect them anyway. There's a nice railbird feel coming on strong here.

I can't even remember the last time I actually played in one of our freerolls. When I do make it around and catch one, it's too bad all the slots are full of people, half to three-quarters of whom, I have no idea who or where they came from. Then they sit out anyway.
Just did a really quick count in this Full Tilt Sunday Freeroll: Increase Max Entrants? thread. Roughly 15 loyalers and 50 to 60 non-loyalers stated that it should either stay the same or be decreased.
The overwhelming majority of those that bothered to post do not want the field increased. Your insinuation that this is some kind of elitist self-interest doesn't hold water.
  #9  
05-11-2007, 1:33 AM
wsorbust
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Your insinuation that this is some kind of elitist self-interest doesn't hold water.
I never insinuated that, but the poll is biased.

90 people voted out of more than 900 people who enter or attempt to enter every week. The poll means nothing.
I'm not saying there's LEET, I wish I could say I was loyal enough to be one of the few who have the privilege.
But, when a mod makes a post and the first 8 to vote and comment are loyalers, it surely has effect on future voters and votes. I honestly don't know why they were allowed to vote in the first place. They'll be happy and get in no matter which way it went. Take a separate private poll or something, to see what their thoughts on it were.

Last edited by wsorbust : 05-11-2007 at 1:54 AM.
  #10  
05-11-2007, 3:29 AM
wsorbust
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wait...where's my point.


Quote:
I missed it too. 900 people? I Could of swore there's only a couple hundred posters every week at best. This is weak. I blame myself.
I was just stating that there are clearly people signing up for this thing that have no/little interest in cc as a website or community as shown by the number of votes in your poll. It's wrong of me to judge like this, I know. (I obviously didn't vote in the poll or even frequent the section because it is repetitive thread after repetitive thread) I didn't insist on increasing the limit of entrants. I would vote no or decrease, also. Sorry for the confusion. It's just too bad I didn't check earlier. That's all. I'm not bent or delusional. There's surely no easy fix that would please everyone. I understand this. Maybe I'll hang around for hours, refreshing the page like everyone else. No problem. If that's what has to be done, then, that's the ticket.

Last edited by wsorbust : 05-11-2007 at 3:44 AM.
  #11  
05-11-2007, 4:26 AM
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I got registered for the freeroll today for the first time in three weeks (kept waiting to the last minute). It was about two hours before the start and there were about 600 registered. Registration was going up at a modest rate, not like the Full Tilt Poker freerolls that fill in 5-6 seconds. This is just to say you don't have to hang around for hours, refreshing the page.

Registering didn't really do much good, though. I was out in less than an orbit with my TPGK going to Ace-rag with Ace on river.
  #12  
05-11-2007, 6:40 AM
ratmantoo
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I managed to enter...but then I'm lucky enough to be online all day playing poker anyway and the password is available at about 6pm here.


The problem is not the number of entrants (although a smaller field is always nice) and I for one voted to keep it the same as I play them to test myself (not that making the money isn't always on my mind...bank roll could certainly use it).

I'm not making any accusations but it seems there are people who play that
a) have only registered to play in the free rolls
b) get the password from CC logged in as a "guest"
c) get the password elsewhere


I think Ive sat at 2 tables where Ive actually seen someone that I recognise from posts here is CC otherwise its all unknowns. Possibly they could be playing under other aliases...but who knows.

The only way to get around this is to have the mods pm everyone or something, but that is how the loyalers are rewarded. Therefore post quality posts and hope (and pray) that you are afforded loyaler status.
  #13  
05-11-2007, 7:02 AM
Cheezymadman
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The thing is that "a specific number of posts is too hard to implement" isn't really an excuse. I'm 90% sure that vBulletin allows admins to restrict certain subforums to members with a certain number of posts or higher. I'm 100% sure you can do that with usergroups, with work off of post count here anyway.

All that needs to be done is set it so no one under a certain usergroup (say "regular member") can even SEE the password forum. Couple that with a solid mod staff that deletes garbage posts, and you have a system where only the members that plan to stick around can play in the freerolls.
  #14  
05-11-2007, 4:40 PM
juiceeQ
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Couple things:

1) Guests cannot see the Password forum. Only members who are logged in can.

2) Even as the poll mentioned above closed, people still have been posting their vote, and it's still overwhelmingly "keep as is" or "decrease". I agree that in this point of the game decreasing max-entrants really isn't feasable, and increasing (IMO) is madness, so keeping as is is the best course of action.

3) Wsorbust--the password is almost always posted for this one 4 hours in advance, due to demand. So there is no reason to have to sit here "for hours" refreshing the page.

4) Setting a post limit is madness. We've had a post count requirement before, when CC's membership was much smaller, and even then, we could barely keep ahead of deleting the garbage posts. I do agree that as our member population grows, our current method of password distribution can certainly be improved upon. Setting some restrictions in the software (perhaps blocking those that never post) and perhaps an automated dispersal might be best. I don't like the idea of a bunch of FRW's (i.e. those who only come for the freerolls, and contribute nothing in to the site) taking over either.

5) As for people sharing the password, this is very hard to control. While we have a strict no password sharing policy (I will instaban anyone I come across doing so), most times I don't have their CC username, and so am helpless to do anything about it.

I do investigate other sites extensively when trying to find password sharing, but again, it can be a daunting task. So if any of you ever have any information on password sharing, I would be happy to hear it and investigate.
  #15  
05-11-2007, 5:13 PM
wsorbust
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Weeks ago I could have swore it was 2-3 hours before the tourney and no pass was to be found. Not to mention, there was no set time when it was to be announced. I refreshed after 10 minutes then went to go play unreal tournament, because, what else would you do when you're p'd off there's no pass, than to go blow people up and take off their heads!? If you don't know what I'm talking about, it was one of the finest first person shooter games when it was released. Anyway, practices have probably changed since then. Maybe I'll catch one. thanx
  #16  
06-11-2007, 3:57 AM
juiceeQ
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Weeks (more like months) ago, you're right, we would wait until closer to start time to release it. But after that last server crash, with the load it was putting on the site, we decided it best to do it as soon as possible. I can't see releasing it any sooner than four hours--it would lead to an abundance of sit-outs, not to mention more time for those sharing passwords to get the word out.
  #17  
06-11-2007, 11:37 AM
RedfishNelli
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i get in alot and enjoy playing
  #18  
11-11-2007, 2:09 PM
usmcpokerguy
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big question..

Ummm, I entered the password for the 350 freeroll today and it said incorrect password what is up is it the wrong password in the password forums?
  #19  
11-11-2007, 2:16 PM
kcanuck
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That was last week's password. This week's has not been released yet.
  #20  
12-11-2007, 5:27 AM
Figuresforher
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I totally see what you mean.
I joined up todays tourny, it wasnt even full today.
But i couldnt make the tourny i had to run.
My buddy placed though !
freerolls are frustrating haha.

-mos
  #21  
16-11-2007, 1:01 AM
hombs
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Well as a long time poster I understand your pain. I really hate it when I have a bunch of people sitting out, although it is fun to try and steal their blinds.

But in all seriousness lowering the number of entrants would suck for new guys like me. Once I get more active on the site Ill probably feel the way you do. But even for CardChats sake Id argue against it. Reducing the number of players will in turn reduce the number of new participants the tournament can have. Some people will ultimately lose interest in the site and guess what goes down? traffic and advertisement revenues, which is probably the way they pay for the freerolls.

If I'm wrong by all means let me know...
  #22  
21-11-2007, 5:23 AM
bebewins
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I love fulltilt poker... I'm an addict for sure!
my ft name is bebewins..I can't wait to see ya'll on the tables!
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