Zachvac vs 111000 HU

#1 3rd May 2009, 10:20 PM

I'm playing Zachvac for 10,000 hands at 50nl. We're going to be recording (at least some sessions) so we can make some heads up vids also.

In case you guys didn't see my other thread these are the rules:

1) .25-.50 min (nl/plo obv) 2 tables min. all tables must be same stake
2) can change tables anytime eff stacks are >250bb
3) have to reload when stacks are <75bb
4) $$ won in the challenge is kept obv
5) same stakes the whole time

Whoever loses is wearing a chili pepper costume at Turning Stone Casino during the May tournament series theyre running.

gl me

#2 3rd May 2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Whoever loses is wearing a chili pepper costume at Turning Stone Casino during the May tournament series theyre running.

You are going to have to finish this very quickly then, no?

Also...if you both are going to be at the Stone, let me know!

#3 3rd May 2009, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Shrog

You are going to have to finish this very quickly then, no?

Also...if you both are going to be at the Stone, let me know!

yeah lol, we're gonna get it done before then and yep we're both gonna be there--unless zach backs out cuz im assuming wearing a chili pepper costume would be pretty embarrassing

#4 3rd May 2009, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Shrog

You are going to have to finish this very quickly then, no?

Also...if you both are going to be at the Stone, let me know!

I think we're gonna be staying night of the 14th through the 17th.

#5 3rd May 2009, 11:06 PM

Hahaha, I might be there for the tournaments, so I will definitely be looking out for the chili. :P

#6 3rd May 2009, 11:11 PM

This is gonna be awesome!! What site are you guys gonna be playing at?? I would love to watch some of the action as well as watch the videos! Is there gonna be commentary on the videos??

#7 3rd May 2009, 11:15 PM

you guys are gonna pay sooo much rake!

#8 3rd May 2009, 11:19 PM

You guys playing the $1,000 main event?

#9 3rd May 2009, 11:22 PM

Ditto on wondering which site and wanting to watch. Speaking of that, are you encouraging rail chat if we see you playing, or should we keep quiet so as not to interfere with all the mad pokah skillz?

#10 3rd May 2009, 11:25 PM

haha we're gonna be playing on Stars.

to Jordan-possib. 1k event who knows :P

commentary will be on vids, and rail chat is fine haha

#11 3rd May 2009, 11:51 PM

This seems pretty cool. Will you guys be letting us know when you're playing?

#12 3rd May 2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoffLacey

This seems pretty cool. Will you guys be letting us know when you're playing?

ill try to post in here before we play a session

#13 4th May 2009, 12:04 AM

Doesnt Zach normally where that outfit when he plays?

#14 4th May 2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jj48fan

Doesnt Zach normally where that outfit when he plays?

^i wish lol.

btw also im gonna see what zach thinks but we might make it 100nl. vanquish brought up a good point about rake :P

#15 4th May 2009, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanquish

you guys are gonna pay sooo much rake!

ya you'll both probably lose over 10k hands unless somebody has a decent edge

#16 4th May 2009, 12:25 AM

Hahah thats going to be awesome, I'll keep my eyes open for you two!~

#17 4th May 2009, 1:36 AM

Alright well I guess we're gonna do 100nl start around 9pm I think we're both gonna record the session and 2-table it.

#18 4th May 2009, 2:05 AM

ok more like 9:30

#19 4th May 2009, 2:14 AM

The only question is...if zach loses can the umbrella still comfortably fit on top of the chili pepper.

#20 4th May 2009, 2:36 AM

okay sorry for the delay, my HD got deleted, so i had to reinstall windows and a bunch of stuff but we're gonna start soon

#21 4th May 2009, 2:41 AM

ok sitting search zachvac or 111000, both recording I think.

#22 4th May 2009, 2:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infamous1020

yeah lol, we're gonna get it done before then and yep we're both gonna be there--unless zach backs out cuz im assuming wearing a chili pepper costume would be pretty embarrassing

You're talking about the guy who wore a freaking umbrella on his head during a live tournament. A chili pepper suit is just natural progression, imo.

#23 4th May 2009, 4:02 AM

It's stylish. Best of luck to you both. Someday one of you can teach me to play heads up. Worst part of my game.

#24 4th May 2009, 4:38 AM

Alright 501 hands in, I'm +4.70 he's -75.85, so I'm less than a buy-in up, also running about a buy-in above ev basically overpair holds against an over, FD, and gutter on the flop I was like 60-40 dog and stacks were a bit deep. Anyway since neither of us feels like paying an extra $500/piece rake just for 10k hands of 100nl any ideas on how to minimize rake?

Been a really good match so far imo, decided we're not gonna release videos until end just because of the fact that we'd rather not show how we're playing before end of the bet.

#25 4th May 2009, 4:54 AM

I so <3 this chili pepper costume bet.

Google says it's a 12 hour, 18 minute drive. Not quite worth driving to see.

#26 4th May 2009, 5:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SavagePenguin

I so <3 this chili pepper costume bet.

Google says it's a 12 hour, 18 minute drive. Not quite worth driving to see.

Don't worry if I win I'm taking+posting pictures and I'm sure he'll do the same if he wins lol.

#27 4th May 2009, 5:12 AM

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Originally Posted by zachvac

Don't worry if I win I'm taking+posting pictures and I'm sure he'll do the same if he wins lol.

you wont win

#28 4th May 2009, 5:39 AM

This was probably most interesting hand so far:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

zachvac: $110.50 (110.5 bb)
111000: $183.65 (183.7 bb)

Pre-Flop: zachvac is SB with K

5

zachvac raises to $3, 111000 raises to $7, zachvac calls $4

Flop: ($14) 9

Q

3

(2 players)
111000 checks, zachvac checks

Turn: ($14) T

(2 players)
111000 bets $8, zachvac calls $8

River: ($30) 8

(2 players)
111000 bets $25, zachvac calls $25

Results: $80 pot ($0.50 rake)
111000 showed A

A

(a pair of Aces) and won $79.50 ($39.50 net)
zachvac mucked K

5

(high card King) and lost (-$40 net)

#29 4th May 2009, 5:48 AM

hero call obv^ lol

#30 4th May 2009, 6:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachvac

Alright 501 hands in, I'm +4.70 he's -75.85, so I'm less than a buy-in up, also running about a buy-in above ev basically overpair holds against an over, FD, and gutter on the flop I was like 60-40 dog and stacks were a bit deep. Anyway since neither of us feels like paying an extra $500/piece rake just for 10k hands of 100nl any ideas on how to minimize rake?

Been a really good match so far imo, decided we're not gonna release videos until end just because of the fact that we'd rather not show how we're playing before end of the bet.

Rake is always going to be high until you get to midstakes. HU is profitable coz the edges tend to be high, so there is no real way that both of you can emerge from 10k hands in good shape. Odds are that one person will win alot the other will lose alot, or one will win a little and the other will still lose quite alot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachvac

This was probably most interesting hand so far:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

zachvac: $110.50 (110.5 bb)
111000: $183.65 (183.7 bb)

Pre-Flop: zachvac is SB with K

5

zachvac raises to $3, 111000 raises to $7, zachvac calls $4

Flop: ($14) 9

Q

3

(2 players)
111000 checks, zachvac checks

Turn: ($14) T

(2 players)
111000 bets $8, zachvac calls $8

River: ($30) 8

(2 players)
111000 bets $25, zachvac calls $25

Results: $80 pot ($0.50 rake)
111000 showed A

A

(a pair of Aces) and won $79.50 ($39.50 net)
zachvac mucked K

5

(high card King) and lost (-$40 net)

u think u had a straight? I've definitely done that before

#31 4th May 2009, 6:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feitr

Rake is always going to be high until you get to midstakes. HU is profitable coz the edges tend to be high, so there is no real way that both of you can emerge from 10k hands in good shape. Odds are that one person will win alot the other will lose alot, or one will win a little and the other will still lose quite alot.

Well I think we're gonna try to use play money tables. There's a converter on 2p2 to convert it to real money so HEM will import it so I'm gonna try to get it working for live conversion so we can get live imports and track it and just send money equal to chips after each session. Like I knew rake was high, but it's gonna be over 1k for this one match. I'm not really worried about him not paying and I don't think he is so we can just do that I think. idk kinda lame to be doing a challenge on play money tables but better than spending the extra $500+ each.

#32 4th May 2009, 6:47 AM

btw i just wanted to say i think we're fairly equal in skill and its been pretty cool.

i play weird.

#33 4th May 2009, 6:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachvac

Well I think we're gonna try to use play money tables. There's a converter on 2p2 to convert it to real money so HEM will import it so I'm gonna try to get it working for live conversion so we can get live imports and track it and just send money equal to chips after each session. Like I knew rake was high, but it's gonna be over 1k for this one match. I'm not really worried about him not paying and I don't think he is so we can just do that I think. idk kinda lame to be doing a challenge on play money tables but better than spending the extra $500+ each.

Ya since you guys are friends just use play money tables and you could add a $1k prop bet or something to the suit for the winner so you aren't totally wasting your time. I don't have many nl100 HU hands in my database atm, but i think $500 would be pretty close to what it would cost each of you for 10k hands - so if you both pool your "saved rake" and give it to the winner seems like a decent compromise.

#34 4th May 2009, 7:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feitr

Ya since you guys are friends just use play money tables and you could add a $1k prop bet or something to the suit for the winner so you aren't totally wasting your time. I don't have many nl100 HU hands in my database atm, but i think $500 would be pretty close to what it would cost each of you for 10k hands - so if you both pool your "saved rake" and give it to the winner seems like a decent compromise.

^yeah we'll def. consider that.

btw-- zachs gonna lose

#35 21st May 2009, 5:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachvac

This was probably most interesting hand so far:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

zachvac: $110.50 (110.5 bb)
111000: $183.65 (183.7 bb)

Pre-Flop: zachvac is SB with K

5

zachvac raises to $3, 111000 raises to $7, zachvac calls $4

Flop: ($14) 9

Q

3

(2 players)
111000 checks, zachvac checks

Turn: ($14) T

(2 players)
111000 bets $8, zachvac calls $8

River: ($30) 8

(2 players)
111000 bets $25, zachvac calls $25

Results: $80 pot ($0.50 rake)
111000 showed A

A

(a pair of Aces) and won $79.50 ($39.50 net)
zachvac mucked K

5

(high card King) and lost (-$40 net)

Zach did you think you had the straight? because if not, I just dont understand the call. If the call was intentional, then it woulod be quite an interesting hand to explain.

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