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  #1  
13-07-2005, 2:46 PM
diabloblanco
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WSOP Main Event Day 5 Updates

Day 5 of the 2005 WSOP Main Event is set to begin in a few hours and there have been a few major changes in the leaderboard sice yesterday at this time. The top 10 chip leaders are:

1st- Tim Phan $2,500,000
2nd- Phil Ivey $1,210,000
3rd- Tex Barch $1,200,000
4th- Farzad Bonyati $1,810,000
5th- Hon Lee $1,800,000
6th- Ray Sanchez $1,700,000
7th- Mike Matusow $1,500,000
8th- Stephen Marx $1,400,000
9th- Patrick Hayden $1,400,000
10th-Minh Ly $1,350,000

Other noteable chip counts after day 3 are:

11th-Greg Raymer $1,300,000
19th-John Juanda $960,000
27th-Kenna James $780,000
28th-Lee Watkinson $780,000
43rd-Dustin "Neverwin" Wolfe $520,000

76 players remain in the competition. Today the field will be chipped away until the final table of 9 playrs will be decided. The final table will then take place tomorrow and the winner of the gold bracelet, title of worlds champ, and the 7.5 million dollars will be crowned. If a few players make some decent moves today we could see a great final table on ESPN when this airs.

My ideal final table from the remaining players would be:


Mike "the mouth" Matusow in seat 1 (do I need to explain why I want him there?)

Greg "fossilman" Raymer in seat 2 (if he repeats it will be the biggest feat in modern poker history, possibly of all time...and because Mike Matusow is there)

Kenna James seat 3 (everyone likes a gay cowboy, JK...he's a nice, down to earth guy)

Phil Ivey in seat 4 (he has icewater in his veins and he hasn't gotten the recognition he deserves, plus he went out on a bad beat in 2004)

Lee Watkinson in seat 5 (because he's a pro)

John Juanda in seat 6 (because he's good)

Dustin "neverwin" Woolfe seat 7 (because he's an internet pro, has a cool website with a forum, and has had a great WSOP run)

Minh Ly in seat 8 (because he and Matusow like to joke and gaff one another)

Tim Phan in seat 9 (only because he seems like a powerhouse and we need a Cinderella story)

Unless there are some real characters amongst the unknowns, this would be about the most interesting final table out of the remaining players, in my opinion.
 

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  #2  
13-07-2005, 3:30 PM
joshyb20
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"6 players remain in the competition. Today the field will be chipped away until the final table of 9 playrs will be decided. The final table will then take place tomorrow "

Unless they changed it up they play the final table on friday.

"The day has closed and play has ended. Play will resume tomorrow at noon and play will continue until only 27 players remain. Tim Phan is the current chip leader with $3,200,000 in chips. Mike Matusow is not that far behind in second place though with $2,600,000."

Here is the final official count



1. Tim Phan - $3,244,000
2. Mike Matusow - $2,561,000
3. Farzad Bonyadi - $2,402,000
4. Steve Danaman - $2,143,000
5. Phil Ivey - $2,027,000
6. Tex Barch - $2,025,000
7. Tiffany Williamson - $1,992,000
8. Johnny Howard - $1,806,000
9. Scott Lazar - $1,629,000
10. Tuan Vu - $1,571,000
11. Gregory Rice - $1,414,000
12. Raymi Sanchesz Thorn - $1,288,000
13. Lee Watkinson - $1,221,000
14. Tom Sartori - $1,208,000
15. Daniel Bergsdorf - $1,144,000
16. Brad Koundracki - $1,136,000
17. Minh Ly - $1,102,000
18. Terry Burt - $1,080,000
19. Steve Marx - $1,042,000
20. Per Hildebrand - $1,017,000
21. Michael Kessler - $986,000
22. Shahram - $983,000
23. Patrick Hayden - $972,000


AVERAGE STACK SIZE - $968,793


24. Dustin "Neverwin" Woolf - $968,000
25. John Juanda - $841,000
26. Joseph Hachem - $814,000
27. Nick Givson - $811,000
28. John McGrane - $780,880
29. Aaron Kanter - $778,000
30. Ayhan Alsancak - $775,000
31. Greg "Fossil Man" Raymer - $766,000
32. Radu Butan - $762,000
33. Bing Wang - $739,000
34. Oskar Silow - $720,000
35. Adam Friedman - $719,000
36. James Butt - $716,000
37. Russell "The Muscle" Salzer - $710,000
38. Bryant King - $702,000
39. Frankling Caldwell - $690,000
40. Yakov Hirsch - $658,000
41. Joe Connor - $641,000
42. Mark Forrester - $628,000
43. Karlo Lopez - $607,000
44. Joe Stillman - $584,000
45. Kevin Kaikko - $571,000
46. Tony Abesamis - $513,000
47. Kenna James - $510,000
48. Hung La - $505,000
49. David Richardson - $501,000
50. Roland Israelashvici - $469,000
51. Francis W O'Brien - $423,000
52. Bernard Lee - $379,000
53. Andrew Black - $371,000
54. Conor Tate - $368,000
55. Derek Dix - $202,000
56. Rod Pardey Jr. - $187,000
57. Larry Prugh - $166,000
58. Jarl Lindholt - $101,000

Diablo, don't know where you got all this info but its a bit off man.
  #3  
13-07-2005, 4:14 PM
diabloblanco
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I can't get on cardplayer.com, it came from another forum, and you're right, the final table is on the 15th, and 27 will remain after today. My mistake. Goes to show you, you can't trust what's posted on a forum if you don't look it up yourself...or get it from cardschat.
  #4  
13-07-2005, 7:19 PM
ChuckTs
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i'm tellin ya, Ivey's gonna take it !!!!!!
has he ever been this high in chip placing in WSOP?
the guys a prodigy hes takin over
  #5  
13-07-2005, 7:33 PM
diabloblanco
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There are a lot more chips in play this year, so relatively speaking he probably has been in this good of shape, but he does look dominant. If he wins this it will solidify him as probably the best all around player alive when considering cash games and tourneys
  #6  
13-07-2005, 7:59 PM
joshyb20
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I hope he does. He was my pre-tourny pick, and all my other picks to compete are pretty much gone. Raymer has fallen off a bit, I'm not sure he'll make it through the night. Phan is playing very, very well. He has a chance. Not too many big names left at all, Ivey, Raymer, and the Mouth being the three biggest off the top of my head.
  #7  
13-07-2005, 9:03 PM
laraspal00
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Tim Phan looks strong. After he took the lead, he never looked back. I think Fossilman may bow out tonight. Looks like the pros are taking over.

Pat
  #8  
13-07-2005, 9:18 PM
potsplasher
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I too am rooting for Ivey, but I'm not optimistic that he will win. At times he plays very aggressively, and one bad beat basically kills you at this stage. Also, he has terrible luck in the TV tournaments. I just hope he doesn't get any AQ hands. That's the opposite equivalent of the Doyle Brunson 10/2 hand.

As for the "best player" tag, I have heard so many players referred to as "maybe the best all-around player", or "best money game player". There is only one best, so why are so many people called the best? A good case can be made for Ivey, but it can be for many others too (Negreanu 2 WPT wins, POY), Brunson (2 WSOP titles, WPT title, 10 bracelets), Chan (2 WSOP titles, 10 bracelets), and so on. Chip Reese, Howard Lederer, Dan Harrington. I don't think one player can be called the best.
  #9  
13-07-2005, 9:51 PM
diabloblanco
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I have to say, all things considered, if Ivey does take the ME, he will be widely regarded as the best "all around" player of this era. For longevity, you have to mention Doyle first. For tournamnet accomplishments, Chan, Hellmuth, Brunson (again) and Ungar. For just cash games Reese and Greenstein come to mind instantly. But Ivey has all of the above with many years to go.
  #10  
13-07-2005, 11:41 PM
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Chip Counts are in


Mike Matusow $3,130,000 117 7
Phil Ivey $2,200,000 131 3
Steve Dannenmann $2,120,000 118 3
Tim Phan $2,100,000 129 7
Tommy Vu $2,100,000 129 5
Sean Sheikhan $2,050,000 0 8
Scott Lazar $2,050,000 129 6
Farzad Bonyadi $2,000,000 117 5
Tiffany Williamson $1,850,000 142 9
Tom Sartori $1,700,000 0 3
Johnny Howard $1,600,000 118 9
Tex Barch $1,500,000 117 9
Raymi Thorn $1,500,000 142 1
Michael Kessler $1,380,000 0 2
Karlo Lopez $1,200,000 0 1
Terence Burt $1,150,000 131 9
Greg Raymer $1,100,000 0 5
Ayhan Alsancak $1,100,000 129 8
Bryant King $1,080,000 129 3
Daniel Bergsdorf $1,050,000 118 2
Dustin Woolf $1,000,000 117 6
Andrew Black $1,000,000 131 1
Gregory Rice $970,000 142 6
Brad Kondracki $960,000 117 8
Steve Marx $930,000 118 4
Lee Watkinson $930,000 129 9
Kevin Kaikko $920,000 118 5
Joe Connor $900,000 117 3
Per Hildebrand $860,000 129 2
Minh Ly $848,000 118 7
Kenna James $830,000 142 2
Francis O'Brien $820,000 142 5
Bing Wang $790,000 117 4
Joseph Hachem $740,000 131 2
Franklin Caldwell $700,000 117 2
Oskar Silow $700,000 131 6
Tony Abesamis $700,000 118 6
Adam Friedman $680,000 118 1
Connor Tate $650,000 129 1
Russell Salzer $650,000 142 7
Aaron Kanter $590,000 131 7
Bernard Lee $550,000 142 4
Roland Ashvic $520,000 131 4
John McGrane $450,000 129 4
John Juanda $440,000 142 8
Radu Butan $350,000 0 7
David Richardson $340,000 131 5
Patrick Hayden $110,000 0 6
  #11  
13-07-2005, 11:46 PM
MicheleW
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The Vietnam players are always under rated, mainly because they don't seem to get the big press the other players do. I wonder if playing cards is in their blood because there are so many Vietnamese players. I'd like to see one of them win it this year!!
  #12  
14-07-2005, 12:14 AM
Jesus Lederer
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"Farzad Bonyadi raised preflop and Mike Matusow re-raised, Bonyadi called. The flop came J-10-2, and again Matusow fired at the pot. The turn was a 5, and Matusow bet out $250,000. Bonyadi called that bet too. The river was the 5h, and Matusow moved all in. Bonyadi went into the tank, but eventually folded. Matusow showed 6-2 for a pair of two's and won the pot."
With that hand The Mouth had 4 million, but now he´s down to 3 million. He´s still is the chip leader.

Bad news:
-JJ is losing more and more. Now he´s down to 300K.
-Lee Watkinson was busted: "Lee Watkinson goes all-in preflop with 9h-4d, and is called by John McGrane who holds Ks-Jh. The flop comes A-2-6 and Watkinson has a bit of a lead when a 4 hits on the turn, but when the river brings a Jack, Watkinson is eliminated."

Last edited by Jesus Lederer : 14-07-2005 at 12:20 AM.
  #13  
14-07-2005, 12:38 AM
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If Mike Matusow wins, I'll be very disappointed. Can't stand the guy. Big mouth, bigger cry baby than Phil, and just an all around pain in the @ss. I don't think he's even fun to watch. He actually insults players like Raymer and that's not right. I'd rather see Phil Ivey win it and he's not my fav either (good player but not my fav).

Raymer's over a Mill again.
  #14  
14-07-2005, 12:42 AM
laraspal00
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Kenna James has just been eliminated and ends in 44th. Not bad.

Down to 43.

Pat
  #15  
14-07-2005, 1:25 AM
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I agree with you Michele about Mike the Mouth. However, I wouldn't mind seeing him at the final table. Guys like him and Helmuth make for better TV. I love watching poker, but when the guys at the final table are all quiet and dull, so is the telecast.

Matusow and Helmuth are basically the same type of person. I'd bet they are nice guys outside the game, but they just don't know how to regulate their mouths when they are losing. Helmuth is probably worse in my opinion. He almost never, ever gives anybody any credit for beating him. It's always bad luck, or he made a bad call, or whatever.

Ivey isn't the most exciting player to watch, but he is class personified. I love that moment in 2003 when Freddy Deeb took a big pot from him and excitedly kept telling Ivey how much to turn over to him. Phil just said "Relax, relax". After paying up, he joked with Deeb about his shirt. Deeb said he could borrow it. The look on Ivey's face was classic. Like, "Um, that's ok".
  #16  
14-07-2005, 1:49 AM
laraspal00
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Mike Matusow has company. Tex Barch has tied him for the chip lead!!! Will he be able to shut down The Mouth?

We are down to the final 40.

Pat

Last edited by laraspal00 : 14-07-2005 at 1:50 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
  #17  
14-07-2005, 2:28 AM
ChuckTs
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More, more, MORE!!!!
  #18  
14-07-2005, 2:44 AM
laraspal00
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We're down to 37. On top of that, Oskar Silow beat Phil Ivey's pocket 5s and doubled up to $800,000. Ivey is still safe with over 3 mil.

Pat
  #19  
14-07-2005, 4:35 AM
laraspal00
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Mike the Mouth has gotten his chip lead back, Fossilman is still hanging tough, and Tiffany Williamson is still in a comfortable striking position as the only woman left in the field.

We are down to 34 players.

Pat

Mike the Mouth has lost his chip lead...


Tex Barch $4,000,000 117 9
Steve Dannenmann $3,900,000 118 3
Mike Matusow $3,550,000 117 7
Phil Ivey $3,500,000 118 1
Scott Lazar $2,900,000 129 6
Minh Ly $2,800,000 118 7
Greg Raymer $2,600,000 0 5
Tim Phan $2,500,000 0 6
Daniel Bergsdorf $2,400,000 118 2
Tommy Vu $2,300,000 129 5
Andrew Black $1,950,000 117 2
Connor Tate $1,900,000 129 1
Johnny Howard $1,800,000 118 9
Tiffany Williamson $1,550,000 0 4
Joe Hachem $1,550,000 0 9
Tom Sartori $1,350,000 0 3
Burt Rice $1,300,000 117 1
Aaron Kanter $1,300,000 117 3
Michael Kessler $1,200,000 0 2
Brad Kondracki $1,200,000 117 8
Bryant King $900,000 129 3
Ayhan Alsancak $900,000 129 8
Joe Connor $900,000 118 8
Bernard Lee $850,000 129 7
Dustin Woolf $800,000 117 6
Shawn Sheikhan $750,000 0 8
Oskar Silow $700,000 118 6
Radu Butan $600,000 0 7
John McGrane $350,000 129 4
John Juanda $300,000 129 9
Per Hildebrand $250,000 129 2
Russell Salzar $250,000 118 5

Last edited by laraspal00 : 14-07-2005 at 4:35 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
  #20  
14-07-2005, 5:35 AM
laraspal00
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He's baaaaaack...Mike the Mouth retakes the chip lead, but Fossilman has staged a commanding comeback to 4th.

Mike Matusow $4,500,000 117 7
Steve Dannenmann $4,200,000 118 3
Tex Barch $4,000,000 117 9
Greg Raymer $3,050,000 0 5
Phil Ivey $3,000,000 118 1
Minh Ly $3,000,000 118 7
Scott Lazar $2,800,000 129 6
Michael Kessler $2,400,000 0 2
Joe Hachem $2,400,000 0 9
Andrew Black $2,200,000 117 2
Burt Rice $2,100,000 117 1
Tim Phan $2,050,000 0 6
Daniel Bergsdorf $2,000,000 118 2
Tommy Vu $1,800,000 129 5
Johnny Howard $1,800,000 118 9
Aaron Kanter $1,800,000 117 5
Brad Kondracki $1,800,000 117 8
Tom Sartori $1,500,000 0 3
Connor Tate $1,450,000 129 1
Joe Connor $1,300,000 118 8
Oskar Silow $1,200,000 118 6
Tiffany Williamson $1,160,000 0 4
Bryant King $1,100,000 129 3
John McGrane $900,000 129 4
Bernard Lee $750,000 129 7
Shawn Sheikhan $600,000 0 8
Ayhan Alsancak $600,000 117 3
Per Hildebrand $300,000 129 2

Last edited by laraspal00 : 14-07-2005 at 6:00 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
  #21  
14-07-2005, 6:55 AM
laraspal00
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There is a new chip leader as of 12:47 am EST and his name is Phil Ivey!!! Still one more player to eliminate before Binons.

Number 28 has finally been eliminated and the players can get a good night's sleep before going to Binion's tomorrow.

Pat

Last edited by laraspal00 : 14-07-2005 at 6:55 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
  #22  
14-07-2005, 7:06 AM
Jesus Lederer
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As laraspal said, the day 5 ended. Here is the chip count:

Mike Matusow $5,104,000
Phil Ivey $4,600,000
Steve Dannenmann $4,150,000
Tex Barch $3,900,000
Greg Raymer $3,500,000
Scott Lazar $2,900,000
Joe Hachem $2,700,000
Michael Kessler $2,700,000
Daniel Bergsdorf $2,500,000
Andrew Black $2,350,000
Aaron Kanter $2,200,000
Tim Phan $2,200,000
Tommy Vu $2,000,000
Minh Ly $1,800,000
Brad Kondracki $1,500,000
Bryant King $1,500,000
Connor Tate $1,300,000
Oskar Silow $1,300,000
Joe Connor $1,000,000
Tiffany Williamson $1,000,000
Bernard Lee $950,000
Tom Sartori $950,000
Johnny Howard $800,000
John McGrane $600,000
Per Hildebrand $550,000
Shawn Sheikhan $400,000
Ayhan Alsancak $250,000
  #23  
14-07-2005, 2:50 PM
max_barry
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Go Greg Ryamer,hes agreatb player and i want either himorPhil Ivey toqwin this one!!Ivery is such a great player at such a young age.
  #24  
14-07-2005, 2:55 PM
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Yeah Ivey is looking great. Had never seen a pic of him until I saw the website, he looks young but composed

Anyone know his background i.e. how many years he has been playing?
  #25  
14-07-2005, 10:47 PM
potsplasher
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I don't know very much, but I think he first got attention in 2001, when he won 3 WSOP bracelets. He is married I believe, about 28 years old, and plays in a lot of high stakes games. He is a multimillionaire already, and considered by some to be the best player. There are sites with player profiles where you can probably get all his info. Just google Phil Ivey player profile or something like that.
  #26  
15-07-2005, 7:52 AM
ChuckTs
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hes on the full tilt team

im sure their site has a bio on him
hes just about my favorite player
i love the old timers like TJ and Dolly too, though
  #27  
15-07-2005, 4:11 PM
robwhufc
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Does anybody know anything about the last 9? I presume Matasow is a pro (he's been mentioned on here) but what about the other 8?
  #28  
15-07-2005, 4:43 PM
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Their profiles are here http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/la...urearticle.asp

A few are pro's and a couple in early twenties
  #29  
15-07-2005, 5:15 PM
potsplasher
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I just gained a lot of respect for Matusow. I still don't like the way he acts at the table, but he redeems himself somewhat in the interviews I have seen with cardplayer.com. He was just talking about how Greg Raymer got knocked out, and how the player that did it had no business staying in that hand. The guy kept trying to bluff Raymer and rivered a straight (or flush) to suck out and eliminate Raymer. The interviewer tried to defend the guy, and Matusow said "How about folding when you don't flop a pair of a draw?" I'm not sure I totally agree with his analysis, maybe I do, but I think it's good that he speaks that way about the game. He clearly thinks the amateurs are taking over the game, and that it isn't a good thing. Understandable for a pro.

He also commented that Ivey shouldn't have been playing huge pots at that stage, a comment that I'm sure Ivey wouldn't appreciate, but...

I still don't know if I want Matusow to win it or not. Guys like him, Arieh, and Hellmuth, act like children sometimes, but it's good that they can leave that at the table too.
  #30  
15-07-2005, 5:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by potsplasher
I just gained a lot of respect for Matusow. I still don't like the way he acts at the table, but he redeems himself somewhat in the interviews I have seen with cardplayer.com. He was just talking about how Greg Raymer got knocked out, and how the player that did it had no business staying in that hand. The guy kept trying to bluff Raymer and rivered a straight (or flush) to suck out and eliminate Raymer. The interviewer tried to defend the guy, and Matusow said "How about folding when you don't flop a pair of a draw?" I'm not sure I totally agree with his analysis, maybe I do, but I think it's good that he speaks that way about the game. He clearly thinks the amateurs are taking over the game, and that it isn't a good thing. Understandable for a pro.

He also commented that Ivey shouldn't have been playing huge pots at that stage, a comment that I'm sure Ivey wouldn't appreciate, but...

I still don't know if I want Matusow to win it or not. Guys like him, Arieh, and Hellmuth, act like children sometimes, but it's good that they can leave that at the table too.
I dont suppose that would be the same Matusow that was calling Phill Ivey his idol a few days ago?!

Cant wait for the coverage on TV, though I doubt we will get it here in UK for about another 6 months.

Who knocked Raymer out?
  #31  
15-07-2005, 6:34 PM
potsplasher
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Yeah, he did say that. I don't think this last quote refutes that. Basically, he was lamenting the fact that Ivey was out. I think he wanted to go up against him. He said that Ivey didn't really play well that last day, but I don't think he can really know that if he wasn't at his table. Raymer had a good interview as well with the press after his elimination. He was talking about how the tournament is with these huge fields, and that it is extremely difficult for a top pro to make it to the final table. However, he didn't think that changing the format would be an improvement. He doesn't think it is broken.

I like Raymer a lot. He is very intelligent, polite, respectful, and humble. Ivey apparently didn't want to talk to the media after he got eliminated. I saw an interview with him a couple days before that and he clearly really wanted to win this one. I think he is very frustrated with his streak of bad luck in the TV tourneys. I don't think it helps when people constantly talk about him being the best player. I think he will eventually win one, or at least win on the WPT tour.

I think Kanter knocked Raymer out as well as Ivey. The interviewer said that he knocked 6 people out. As for the telecast, it will be on ESPN in October or November I think. Don't you guys in the UK get the same programming?

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