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  #1
30th October 2008, 12:24 AM
mister628
 
Plays at: BoDog/PS
Game: Omaha Hi
WSOP Final Table

Who do you guys like for the winner and why? you think chip stack matters this year?.....If so will the chip leader take home the bracelet..

Maybe we should have some type of contest to see who can predict the order of the WSOP Final table winners the closest and give them some type of prize? Whad do ya think???

Has anyone on cardschat ever played at the WSOP before or plan to in the future?
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  #2
30th October 2008, 12:38 AM
pantin007
 
ivan demidov because he has skillz and is second in chips or craig marquis
  #3
30th October 2008, 8:55 AM
dufferdevon
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: holdem
I don't like Craig Marquis' play. He is too agressive and can be wreckless at times. For example, going all in with AQ after raise and a call before him. What is he thinking the others have? The table was playing extremely tight because the next player out just misses the final table.

He got the suckouts of suckouts to make it to the final table.

Personally I like the current chip leader, he has nothing to lose and has been playing solid poker for the entire event.
  #4
30th October 2008, 3:08 PM
OzExorcist
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: wild deuces
Based on what they've shown I rate Dennis Phillips - dunno if he'll win, but he should be on for at least a top three finish. He seems to have a knack for extracting money from people when he's got a hand.

Kelly Kim I expect to finish in the bottom three, he's made it pretty obvious he's more interested in payout jumps than he is in winning the whole thing. Not that there's anything wrong with that, per se.

I think much the same goes for Suharto - he's got five times as many chips though, I look for him to be the Tuan Lam of this year's final table. Exactly how far he gets will probably be decided on the outcome of a 60-40 shove.

I think Rheem will either go out early or make it to the top three, with an emphasis on going out early. Same goes for Demidov, I probably reverse the emphasis though - he's starting with enough chips that he'll probably make it to the end.

So after all that rambling... I'm picking Phillips v Eastgate heads up, and Eastgate to take it down. Don't ask me why, I just figure it's as good a guess as any
  #5
30th October 2008, 3:40 PM
ythelongface
 
Plays at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by OzExorcist
Based on what they've shown I rate Dennis Phillips - dunno if he'll win, but he should be on for at least a top three finish. He seems to have a knack for extracting money from people when he's got a hand.

Kelly Kim I expect to finish in the bottom three, he's made it pretty obvious he's more interested in payout jumps than he is in winning the whole thing. Not that there's anything wrong with that, per se.

I think much the same goes for Suharto - he's got five times as many chips though, I look for him to be the Tuan Lam of this year's final table. Exactly how far he gets will probably be decided on the outcome of a 60-40 shove.

I think Rheem will either go out early or make it to the top three, with an emphasis on going out early. Same goes for Demidov, I probably reverse the emphasis though - he's starting with enough chips that he'll probably make it to the end.

So after all that rambling... I'm picking Phillips v Eastgate heads up, and Eastgate to take it down. Don't ask me why, I just figure it's as good a guess as any
i concur. at least 3 of these guys are so aggressive, it could blow up in their face. dennis phillips has been gettin chips outta people when he gets a hand and he has been friggin card rack. phillips vs eastgate sounds more than likely, though i do like suharto as well.
  #6
30th October 2008, 3:50 PM
Ranger390
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: holdem
re: WSOP Final Table poker

Dennis Phillips seems like the one to beat. The fact he has the chip lead is gravy. Chino Rheem could win, if he'd just stay away from marginal hands that get him in trouble. Darus Suharto is the dark horse, but could pull it off. He seems quiet and reserved, but a tough player. I look for the final two to be Phillips and Suharto.
  #7
30th October 2008, 4:00 PM
CAPT. ZIGZAG
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: Stud8
The problem with picking a winner for me this year is the stupid break that the WSOP put into the thing so's they can get their TV coverage the way they want it.

Everybody is coming in cold. With no prior roll to count on.

If someone's rush had just started when they broke. Well.... that's that.

All that said. My pick is Phillips, with Rheem getting a strong maybe. That's if he (Rheem) can hit early on and get enough duckets to compete. If he does, I look for him to rule the table.


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  #8
30th October 2008, 4:08 PM
mogadown
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
My pick is Dennis Phillips. I know he got a lot of good cards to be able to get the chips to be the Chip Leader. I really hope his streak continues. I do agree that it would really suck having to wait 4 months to finish out the tourney. Besides... Im from St. Louis as well. Go Dennis. (I wonder if he will still wear his Cardinals Hat for the final table?)
  #9
30th October 2008, 4:35 PM
bigntasty
 
Plays at: ultimate bet
Game: holdem/all
I won, I won!

Oh!

Darn I hate waking up from a good dream!
  #10
30th October 2008, 4:42 PM
henriclapi
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: holdem
Its Dennis Phillips or Chino Rheem for me.

Personally i'd prefer to see Rheem win it; he's made some great reads and plays and has somehow managed to get so far with a run of bad luck and bda beats.

Dennis Philips seems like a solid player too, but it should interesting to see whether he can hold onto that chip lead or whether it won't be long before he starts leaking chips.

Should be an interesting final table.
  #11
30th October 2008, 4:58 PM
BlackFish2
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: omaha
My pick is Ivan Demidov because he has a lot of chips and has been making the right moves at the right time.
  #12
30th October 2008, 5:06 PM
AUPhoenix
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
re: WSOP Final Table poker

I like Dennis Phillips, he appears to be in control at all times. He also looks like he is able to get good reads on the other players. If Dennis falters, then I like the young gun Craig Marquis. If he hits a few hands early he could be a force to be dealt with.
  #13
30th October 2008, 5:10 PM
iriechief
 
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Game: PL Omaha
ODDS from BOOKMAKER

WORLD SERIES OF POKER - Nov 09 6:00 AM Win WSOP World Championship Main Event [Event 54]35000DENNIS PHILLIPS [26295000] USA +42535001CRAIG MARQUIS [10210000] USA +95035002YLON SCHWARTZ [12525000] USA +80035003SCOTT MONTGOMERY [19690000] CAN +47535004DARUS SUHARTO [12520000] CAN +90035005DAVID CHINO RHEEM [10230000] USA +85035006IVAN DEMIDOV [24400000] RUSSIA +42535007KELLY KIM [2620000] USA +250035008PETER EASTGATE [18375000] DEN +4006:00 AM Winning Nationality of WSOP Champ [Event 54]35020USA -20035021RUSSIA +42535022CANADA +28535023DENMARK +525
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  #14
30th October 2008, 5:11 PM
iriechief
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: PL Omaha
MATCHUPS

WSOP - MATCHUPS
WSOP - MATCHUPS - Nov 09 Betting on the Higher placed finisher at the WSOP Event November 9th 2008. 6:00 AM35101Peter Eastgate +11035102Ivan Demidov -1406:00 AM35103Dennis Phillips -14035104Peter Eastgate +1106:00 AM35105Peter Eastgate -15035106Ylon Schwartz +1206:00 AM35107Craig Maquis -10535108Ylon Schwartz -1256:00 AM35109Craig Marquis -10535110Darus Suharto -1256:00 AM35111Dennis Phillips -11535112Ivan Demidov -1156:00 AM35113Dennis Phillips -12535114Scott Montgomery -1056:00 AM35115Scott Montgomery -15035116David Chino Rheem +1206:00 AM35117David Chino Rheem -11535118Darus Suharto -115
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  #15
30th October 2008, 7:35 PM
mister628
 
Plays at: BoDog/PS
Game: Omaha Hi
WSOP Final Table

I was going to place a wager on who wins it on Sportsbook.com, but not sure. Where else can u place a wager?
  #16
30th October 2008, 7:59 PM
aliengenius
 
Plays at: CC LB games
Game: ON !
The Mop ftw imo !
  #17
30th October 2008, 9:22 PM
Mortis
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: HE & StudHi
Since Joe Bishop is out.. I'm pulling for Dennis Phillips
  #18
30th October 2008, 9:43 PM
jmfkbuzzy
 
Plays at: Ultimate Bet
Game: holdem
re: WSOP Final Table poker

Dennis Phillips... the guy is an animal. Love his style of play.
  #19
31st October 2008, 3:48 AM
crazyfool
 
Game: Omaha
I like Phillips to. Ive missed a good bit of the wsop, but from what i've seen he has made some good moves and hes got the stones as well.
  #20
31st October 2008, 3:49 AM
crazyfool
 
Game: Omaha
I love when Phillips looked at that chick and said"Is this a staredown?". hilarious
  #21
31st October 2008, 7:26 AM
OzExorcist
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: wild deuces
Quote:
Originally Posted by ythelongface
i do like suharto as well.
Way too big a nit to go all the way, IMO - he was playing way scared in the leadup to the final table and making some uber-tight laydowns (going from memory of the PokerNews hand for hand coverage, not just what they've shown on ESPN). He just reeks of someone who's trying to move up the payout ladder.

Like I said, nothing wrong with that. It just doesn't usually spell "winner".
  #22
1st November 2008, 3:14 PM
Rememberthis1
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Whatever!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortis
Since Joe Bishop is out.. I'm pulling for Dennis Phillips
I liked him too, he made a great read on Chino, and then Chino sucked out and was kind of a dick about it, which makes me not want to see Chino win.

I also like Dennis Phillips to win, I didn't see him make one mistake while playing..
  #23
1st November 2008, 3:25 PM
Arielstorm
 
Plays at: Poker Stars
Game: Razz
I am not sure who is going to win, but I am praying for Rheem. If he wins that is $900 + dollars in my bankroll on stars. So for that reason and that reason only I am keeping my toes and fingers crossed and sitting on edge when this thing plays out. I will be watching on pokerstars tv and keeping my eyes glued to it. I think I better get a port a potty and a waterhose to hook up to the sink.
  #24
1st November 2008, 3:54 PM
jdeliverer
 
Plays at: FTP
Game: NLHE now
re: WSOP Final Table poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by OzExorcist
Way too big a nit to go all the way, IMO - he was playing way scared in the leadup to the final table and making some uber-tight laydowns (going from memory of the PokerNews hand for hand coverage, not just what they've shown on ESPN). He just reeks of someone who's trying to move up the payout ladder.

Like I said, nothing wrong with that. It just doesn't usually spell "winner".
Of course, that could all change once the final table comes. I could definitely see him just doing it to make the final table then totally switching gears, especially with the large time interval between most of the tournament and the final table.
  #25
1st November 2008, 4:03 PM
stridsmr
 
Plays at: Absolute
Game: Hold 'Em
I think the biggest wildcard at the table is Scott Montgomery. We didn't see as much of him leading up to the final nine as the others, but anyone willing to reraise all in with no hand, draw, or fold equity is either really brave or really reckless. Probably some combination of the two. Either he's one of the first two out or he's playing head-ups for the title, I'm not sure which.

Phillips will be the one to beat early on. He difinitely won't go from chip leader to first The question is whether he'll be able to shift gears when it gets short-handed. If he's able to make that adjustment, then he at least makes it to the final three. If Kelly Kim can double up early on, though, he's my pick to win it. Really good player who justs a coinflip to go his way early on to give him some breathing room.
  #26
1st November 2008, 4:05 PM
MrSwissCheese
 
Plays at: Bodog
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by mogadown
My pick is Dennis Phillips. I know he got a lot of good cards to be able to get the chips to be the Chip Leader. I really hope his streak continues. I do agree that it would really suck having to wait 4 months to finish out the tourney. Besides... Im from St. Louis as well. Go Dennis. (I wonder if he will still wear his Cardinals Hat for the final table?)
Supposedly, he's going to wear it throughout the tournament, which would include the final table. Not knowing Dennis Phillips at all, but you know how supersticious poker players are .

That being said, I'm sure he will be turning down a good chunk of money to not wear a hat for a poker site (I think he's wearing Poker Stars patches), but then again, I'm sure they've been trying to convince him for the last several days of the tournament. Wonder what kind of a deal he got from Broadway Trucks to continue to wear their shirts - again, I'm sure he'd be able to extract more money from Stars for one of their shirts, not just patches.

Either way about it (also being from St. Louis originally), I can't help but pull for Dennis Philips, but I don't think it's unreasonable - he's been playing great poker, jumping out of hands when he knows he's been beat and extracting every penny he can from people he's got beat. How many times do you see the WSOP chip leader get cocky and lose 3/4 of their stack in a day - I can't remember who it was but the Day 3 or Day 4 chip leader (I think he was right around 800,000), ended up incredibly short stacked by the end of the day.

Just found it, it was Brian Schaedlich, he started Day 3 at 801k and ended Day 3 at 22k, and was eliminated early in Day 4. I certainly don't know because I wasn't there, but it takes a series of bad beats or bad calls to go from 800k to 22k in just a few short hours.
  #27
1st November 2008, 4:06 PM
sambuca421
 
The Truck Driver...he has the chips
  #28
1st November 2008, 4:08 PM
trojan87
 
Plays at: ultimate bet
Game: holdem
ill be rooting for chino rheem and ivan demidov. that kid montgomery is a goof and i hope hes the first player to go out. ivan demidov is solid and chino makes great reads as well as great timed aggression.
 

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