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  Poker - *Would u accept this in a live game?*
 
  #1  
02-05-2008, 10:16 AM
ogawumbo
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*Would u accept this in a live game?*

U see the dealer shuffle the deck (RNG checked by some company)
Now u don’t see the dealer 4 the rest of this hand, but he can se all players cards.
Dealer deals pocketcards
Bettinground
Dealer deals flop
Bettinground
Dealer deals turn
Bettinground
Dealer deals river
Bettinground
End of hand.

All the time u don’t know what cards the dealer r dealing. Would u agree with that, knowing the fact he can see all players cards? If u don’t agree to this, u should not play internetpoker. Because this is what is happening. Think about that.
 

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  #2  
02-05-2008, 10:22 AM
SeanyJ
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Oh my god you're so right, it's so obvious now that internet poker is rigged. I'm going to withdraw all of my funds immediately because it's just so obvious that no online poker sites are legit. Thank you so so much.
  #3  
02-05-2008, 10:26 AM
skoldpadda
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Thought about it, as you suggested.

Conclusion: you're an idiot.
  #4  
02-05-2008, 10:29 AM
SeanyJ
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Oh also if this dealer was someone who had no interest in who won the hands and was 100% unbiased, then yes I would play like that live.
  #5  
02-05-2008, 10:33 AM
ogawumbo
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Next time u play livepoker!!

Ok, the next time u play livepoker, try it :-)
  #6  
02-05-2008, 10:49 AM
my3sons
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Where did the dealer go,so he can't be in the hand and whos dealing now how do you know he can see my cards,why would you ass u me that.Must be one of the weirdest blogs i've read in quite awhile
  #7  
02-05-2008, 10:55 AM
xXcRaZyBiRdXx
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I'm confused... but here are some silly dancing elephants to brighten your day--------)
  #8  
02-05-2008, 11:09 AM
SeanyJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ogawumbo
Ok, the next time u play livepoker, try it :-)
I don't play live poker...And that's impossible
  #9  
02-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Dorkus Malorkus
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ETA until OP accuses us all of being shills because we haven't seen the light?
  #10  
02-05-2008, 11:15 AM
ogawumbo
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U just dont get it, do u?

What I mean is that ALL pokersites claim they have theire RNG checked by some leg. firm/company, but NO pokersite has the softwarecode that handles the dealing of cards (created by the RNG) checked. That part of the code is HIDDEN!! U get it??
  #11  
02-05-2008, 11:17 AM
Dorkus Malorkus
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you're right, all poker sites should be made to publicly release full details of their RNGs. i can see no problem with this whatsoever.
  #12  
02-05-2008, 11:25 AM
ogawumbo
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U STILL dont get it!!

Skip the RNG-thing. RNG is already checked. The fixes r when cards r delt. Now u get it, right???
  #13  
02-05-2008, 12:02 PM
telboy
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What poker site was this on
  #14  
02-05-2008, 12:54 PM
tenbob
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telboy
What poker site was this on
www.givemeallyourmoneynow.com
  #15  
02-05-2008, 1:02 PM
RMcLeod
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You sir, are an idiot
  #16  
02-05-2008, 2:03 PM
sliver101
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so when ur sittin home alone with ur kitchen foil hat on thinking up this totally logical an plausible argument (which is in no way delusional or paranoid)do ya see many aliens ??????
  #17  
02-05-2008, 2:06 PM
pantin007
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^^ lol
a poll on OP's intellegence is in order
  #18  
02-05-2008, 10:50 PM
icecold24k
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Oh my.. I would agree to that. It is not rigged. Sure you get some bad beats but that also happens live. It just seems to be happening more online because the number of hands you can play per hour is so much greater. If you think it is all one big conspiracy don't play its that simple. If you do play and take a beat don't cry that there is some mass conspiracy going on. Thats my opinion.
  #19  
02-05-2008, 11:41 PM
Monoxide
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


cry more emo kid, learn to play poker
  #20  
03-05-2008, 12:16 AM
zachvac
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ogawumbo
What I mean is that ALL pokersites claim they have theire RNG checked by some leg. firm/company, but NO pokersite has the softwarecode that handles the dealing of cards (created by the RNG) checked.
umm, yes they do.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ogawumbo
That part of the code is HIDDEN!! U get it??

umm, no it's not.
  #21  
03-05-2008, 12:27 AM
Richard7787
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LOL This thread made me laugh so much LOL
  #22  
03-05-2008, 12:42 AM
shinedown.45
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The OP was dealt through a RNG(random nut generator).
  #23  
03-05-2008, 12:49 AM
dakota-xx
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I hearby vote that a mod put astericks in the titles on all must read threads like this one so we will all know to look.
  #24  
03-05-2008, 12:53 AM
icecold24k
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shinedown.45
The OP was dealt through a RNG(random nut generator).
LOL Now thats funny
  #25  
03-05-2008, 1:07 AM
arkadiy
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i r sm art so i is agree wit u becuz u is genus fr this
  #26  
03-05-2008, 1:17 AM
switch0723
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sliver101
so when ur sittin home alone with ur kitchen foil hat on thinking up this totally logical an plausible argument (which is in no way delusional or paranoid)do ya see many aliens ??????
You don't where a kitchen foil hat? Are you aware Professor X can read your mind and control you? the foil hat stops him doing that btw
  #27  
03-05-2008, 1:23 AM
NoWuckingFurries
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Looks like another zachvac-type smurf job to me.
  #28  
03-05-2008, 2:33 AM
Paw_kit Aces
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Players Name Games Played ave profit Ave Stake AROI T. profit ogawumbo 16 -$1 $1 -51% -$10

Plays at full tilt so I guess he accepts it.
  #29  
03-05-2008, 2:36 AM
Paw_kit Aces
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last post didn't post correct
Name: agawumbo
games played 16
avarage profit -1
avarage stake 1
total profit -$10
ave ROI -51%
  #30  
03-05-2008, 2:46 AM
chiefer77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xXcRaZyBiRdXx
I'm confused... but here are some silly dancing elephants to brighten your day--------)

this actually did brighten my day.
  #31  
03-05-2008, 2:49 AM
OzExorcist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ogawumbo
U see the dealer shuffle the deck (RNG checked by some company)
Now u don’t see the dealer 4 the rest of this hand, but he can se all players cards.
Sorry, but this is just silly.

As a live dealer, I can tell you for a fact that I don't care what cards you have. I get paid the same at the end of the night no matter who wins.

LOLZ, IMO.
  #32  
03-05-2008, 3:01 AM
philthy
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Im sold.

As of today, I officially quit poker.
  #33  
03-05-2008, 3:10 AM
BrentD22
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Listen do I believe online poker is rigged in general... NO. Do I think there is cheating... YES I do! Matter of fact we all know it has and most likely still does take place. If you think that something can only happen once than your nuts! Now do I think it happens often NO, but to just say that cheating never happens and that someone can't know the next cards to come or to say no one can never see my hole cards is just asking to be scammed. If I had $100 would I leave it on top of a toliet at a casino and expect to get it back... NO. If I left it on top of a toliet in a Church would I expect to get it back NO. Just because you don't think something could happen doesn't mean it can't. A lot of people said everyone was crazy to think it was even possible, but then ABPoker scam happened and people still don't think it's possible. ENRON took people for millions and millions right and not too much happened. I think 1 guy went to prison and some others got a slap on the wrist (plus that guy is in a Club Med Prison), why would a online poker room that has no chance at being held responsible for cheating their members not do the same thing? The answer is when money is involved companies have been known to kill people to make more.

Isn't there another poker room in the news for going bankrupt and for now their members are out all of their money?

I'm not saying stop playing, but I am saying BE CAREFUL. Don't keep a crap load of cash in your online account, don't play online poker on a computer that you do anything else on. You should never download anything except the poker software onto the computer you play on. If you are play on PS and FT only download those 2 programs and thats it! These things people talk about can happen and they'll only happen to people that think they can't!

There have been many cases of young people hacking into google, microsoft, the US Gov., large corporations files to get credit card info, and many other stuff we don't even know about. To say it CAN'T happen to pokerstars or another room you trust man kind a lot more than I do!
  #34  
03-05-2008, 3:13 AM
Paw_kit Aces
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrentD22
Listen do I believe online poker is rigged in general... NO. Do I think there is cheating... YES I do! Matter of fact we all know it has and most likely still does take place. If you think that something can only happen once than your nuts! Now do I think it happens often NO, but to just say that cheating never happens and that someone can't know the next cards to come or to say no one can never see my hole cards is just asking to be scammed. If I had $100 would I leave it on top of a toliet at a casino and expect to get it back... NO. If I left it on top of a toliet in a Church would I expect to get it back NO. Just because you don't think something could happen doesn't mean it can't. A lot of people said everyone was crazy to think it was even possible, but then ABPoker scam happened and people still don't think it's possible. ENRON took people for millions and millions right and not too much happened. I think 1 guy went to prison and some others got a slap on the wrist (plus that guy is in a Club Med Prison), why would a online poker room that has no chance at being held responsible for cheating their members not do the same thing? The answer is when money is involved companies have been known to kill people to make more.

Isn't there another poker room in the news for going bankrupt and for now their members are out all of their money?

I'm not saying stop playing, but I am saying BE CAREFUL. Don't keep a crap load of cash in your online account, don't play online poker on a computer that you do anything else on. You should never download anything except the poker software onto the computer you play on. If you are play on PS and FT only download those 2 programs and thats it! These things people talk about can happen and they'll only happen to people that think they can't!

Cheating happens at brick and morter casinos too.
  #35  
03-05-2008, 3:16 AM
BrentD22
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I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've seen it happen. I've seen a floor man let a player transfer to the softest table on the floor. There was this guy on tilt and wicked drunk that would bust out after going all in and loosing get up rebuy and go to another table. Every time the player did this another player would get up from his table and follow him to the next table. If there was a wait the floor man would skip his buddy to the next open seat.

Last edited by BrentD22 : 03-05-2008 at 3:19 AM. Reason: `qwertyuiop[]\
 


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