would this make you furious???

Dealer: Dealing Hole Cards
Dealer: GunmanPL folds
Dealer: h2owasher folds
Dealer: xxNOEL22xx folds
Dealer: francis9, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Dealer: GunmanPL is sitting out
Dealer: francis9 raises 90 to 120
Dealer: r.scrabble calls 120
Dealer: KingCurtis67 raises 720 to 840
Dealer: fabolousoh folds
Dealer: 7dragoon folds
Dealer: Lee-Lue folds
Dealer: francis9 folds
Dealer: r.scrabble calls 720
Dealer: Dealing Flop: [4c Qd 7h]
Dealer: r.scrabble bets 510
Dealer: KingCurtis67 raises 510 to 1020
Dealer: r.scrabble raises 230 to 1250 and is all-in
Dealer: KingCurtis67 calls 230
Dealer: Dealing Turn: [Tc]
Dealer: Dealing River: K♣
Dealer: r.scrabble has two pair, Queens and Sevens
Dealer: KingCurtis67 has a pair of Queens
Dealer: Game #13195274819: r.scrabble wins pot (4345) with two pair, Queens and Sevens

its like how could he call that much preflop and think he is ahead?

What did you have? A Q ?

yes AQ ...there was a raise then the guy who one called then i reraised a lot more and he called...as you can see in the hand history....

Yes!, I think you should be furious about how badly you played this hand!

I gather this is from the dealer messages and not a hand history. Are you getting the hand histories downloaded to your computer? They make it easier to see.

While I agree his call with Q7 was horrible, your over the top reraise with AQ was equally bad. What made you reraise? Why so much? This hand would have played very differently if you hadn't committed so much of your stack preflop.

i dont understan i played this well i think.....you cant tell me you would put this person on the hand that they had....

they had Q 7
i raised an insane amount preflop...his cards should have been folded

if ii played badly....what did i do wrong then Dj.???

how is this raise bad obviously i knew that i was ahead.....i mean i made this rasie so hands like that werent in it....but really with a hand like his i wanted him to call he just got lucky

even if i would have reraised a little bit and not as much the Q hit i would have bet i am an agressor

He may have thought you were just trying to steal the pot and wanted to call you down. How were playing prior to this hand?

it was pretty earliy in the tourney so unless they had previous notes they wouldnt know how i played but tight agressive usually but i switch it up of course.

What range do you put him on when he calls your raise preflop? I make it a rule to not go broke with only top pair. He might play this the same with AA, KK, or QQ. Depending on how aggressive/dumb he is, he might call with 77 or even 44. Your top pair hand is WAY behind all of these plausible holdings.

I'm not saying I wouldn't be aggressive after the flop with this hand but reraising 28 times the BB preflop is way too much. Nothing wrong with calling the 120 and seeing a flop (I might fold preflop if I wasn't suited, AQ with a raise and call in front of me doesn't seem that strong). The point is without so much invested you could have got away from it when he reraised on the flop or at least got to the river cheaper and not lost all your chips.

Also, what was the buy-in? If it was a low-stakes tourney, he might've been thinking "eh, it's only $X", or if it was a free roll or REALLY low buy-in, he could just be a plain and simple donk who calls with perty looken' face cards.

Ive actually let that slip my mind...only 1.10$ buy in

i understand my reraise preflop was unnecasary but.................im talking about his call not my raise...i just dont understand wehat his plan was...

So you have no idea why you raised, yet you expect the other guy to have a plan in a $1.10 sng?

well it wasnt an SNG it was a tournament and if you read the other posts i did have a reason for raising....first i read that i was ahead preflop....which i was....and i also didnt want rag hands in there like Q 7....i dont expect him to have a plan what i mean is why did he call that much of a raise out of pos. to me with such a bad starting hand....ecspecially when there was a raise then reraise preflop...i dont understand why everyone here thinks that i did everything wrong here......hardly any of you would have layed it down hitting top pair with top kicker....does anyone think i did this right and just got unlucky????

Why were you so sure you were ahead preflop? He lead out with a small raise which you then came WAY over the top and he called. Yes it was bad luck that he beat you but you but by the time he called if I am reading the history right you were heads up and the odds are decent unless you are holding a high pair which you weren't. He also might have felt you were trying to bully him and decided to take a stab at it. I don't think you were wrong but there are a lot of reasons why he might have called, not the least of which is he might have hit the wrong button.

I think everyone agrees that you played it wrong AND got unlucky.

He's a donk. No one is disputing that. No one will ever be able to help him, but if you listen to what's been said in this thread it will help you.

yeah hopefully not the wrong button lol....i did ask him why he called preflop with what he had but he didnt respond

All I have to say is nice pre-flop raise

That just went through my mind as well. I've done that before, several times. Especially when it's a cheap game and I'm maybe not paying close attention. If it was as accident and he did just get lucky, he wouldn't say because then it may give him the advantage of everone else thinking he's extremely loose.

I've also had the situation where I feel I should be doing something else (instead of the cheap tourney), and played a couple of very bad hands in hopes to actually lose... then I catch them. People on the table are pissed at my play, and ask why I did 'that'. But, since I'm up I decide to keep playing.

All sorts of reason he may have called porely on purpose, many reasons it may have been an accident. This is just one of those hands you have to kick your dog and move on. notice: please don't kick your dog

Wrong button does happen. I was playing multi-table and raised with like Q2os, 2 people called and I did a c-bet and they folded so I ended up gaining a lot of chips.

And how did you know this? Wish I could make that kind of read. I'd argue that YOU got lucky first in that you had the better hand and better than a coin flip, and then of course he got lucky and sucked out on you, but you're only a 3:1 favorite, so sure you should have won, sure you had the better hand. But you lose every 4 times that happens. And you didn't know you had them dominated. If he happened to have K7 then it's only about 65-35, not even 2:1.

Well, if you ever read posts, every single bad beat thread where the person posting it is some-what wrong, he always says "well I knew I was ahead pre-flop"

You can go look at a ton of them, they all have it at some point

Ah, Kingcurtis, everything you've said here, including the way you (over) played that hand is screaming out that you're on tilt right now.

When all starts going west you gotta get back to plan A. I just went through a pretty iffy spell of late but reading a couple of interesting articles snapped me out of it and put me back on the track.

yes i think 99.999999% of this thread was tilt...but mainly because im trying to build a descent bankroll with a small bankroll.

anyways all this really is ...is me learning from my mistakes and learning from other peoples thoughts and opinions.

No, it wouldn't. If bad beats make you furious, then that's something you really should work on.

Try these books:

The Poker Mindset, by Matt Hilger and Ian Taylor
The Tao of Poker, by Larry Phillips
Zen and the Art of Poker, by Larry Phillips
Your Worst Poker Enemy, by A. Schoonmaker

well i mean i didnt bet like this or play the hand on tilt i was just on tilt i guess while posting this thread confused on why someone would call such a raise.

but thanks for the info of books!

ya i think thats pretty lame ass play to play Q7 on raises like that...i didnt decide to read all of this but i would gather the only way he calls is if they r suited but even then i woulda laid them down, sorry rough play

In the long run you win this hand 75% of the time with these cards preflop HU...this was one of the 25%...when the wrong play is rewarded...you really want to play against this kind of player

yeah thats what i usually go at tooo..that i basically want his call and will win like you say 75% of the time

donks are everywhere man...his call terrible but your raise also suspicious .. underestimate your hands strenght this kind a situations... top pair top kicker is not enough to go all-in on the flop...if i were you i checked to him and if he bets i folded it cause his call is so suspicious..he could have QQ or something .. still not enough info whats his stack his style your table image etc..

Q7 is the computer hand. These 2 cards will hit the flop more times than any other. Acording to a computer anyway, hense the name.
Dont you just love poker.

When you bet the farm on nothing more than a pair (and a decent kicker), tell the wife to keep the boxes packed. You'll be moving frequently.

You say you play tight aggressive, but switch it up. Loose aggressive (as I think this was) easily turns into lose aggressive. Better luck next time.

This whole hand makes me sad

Facing a 4x BB raise and a cold call PF you can't reraise surely with only AQo (lets not forget - its a drawing hand) call and take a flop i think or perhaps smaller reraise if you take into account you're playing a $1 tourn and ppl could be raising with trash like Q7 or something.. I guess you would have lost most if not all of your money on the flop anyway depending on how it played out lol

This is exactly the flop he was looking for: Q-blank-blank and the pot is bigger than scrabble's stack anyway so it would be a ridiculous lay-down.