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  Poker - "Will you show?"
 
  #1  
29-11-2007, 9:54 PM
zachvac
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"Will you show?"

There are 4 cards to the straight, guy bets the river, I come over the top with nothing, thought the 4th straight card scared him. It did, because he hits "time" and asks "will you show? I have a set".

How would you respond? Obviously if I say "sure" he may call thinking I'm trying to induce a fold. If I say "no" he may call just to see. One friend suggested along the lines of "there's a chance I will, but there's a better chance that I'll show if you call".

What actually happened was I didn't say anything and the guy called. Maybe the call was inevitable, but he was definitely considering laying down the set. What would you do in that situation?
 

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  #2  
29-11-2007, 9:56 PM
MrSticker
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I actually type dots. ".............." = silence. LOL
  #3  
29-11-2007, 9:56 PM
Steveg1976
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Type - "Pay to see them"
  #4  
29-11-2007, 9:58 PM
wsorbust
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Never say anything. My guess is that he has a pair, maybe two, possibly the low end, and won't call either way, unless this is a free roll. A reraise would have probably been in order if he thought he had a shot. Depends on the player really. You can't say that by typing in something would persuade his decision anyway. Play the opponent not that the chat?

Last edited by wsorbust : 29-11-2007 at 10:12 PM.
  #5  
29-11-2007, 10:01 PM
philthy
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I type:

"Yes."
"Wait...no."
"....crap."
  #6  
29-11-2007, 10:11 PM
aliengenius
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Silence is often interpreted as weakness, both live and on-line (and a large amount of time this is an incorrect interpretation).

Here I would have said "sure" or "yes": part of the reason he calls here is so that he can "sleep at night" knowing if you did or didn't have it. You're reading too much into it if you think that he is going to think you are trying to induce a fold.
  #7  
29-11-2007, 10:24 PM
vanquish
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I say "no".
  #8  
29-11-2007, 10:30 PM
pantin007
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keep them guessing say "maybe"
  #9  
29-11-2007, 10:37 PM
Tygran
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I'd say "sure". Then I might or might not show, either way (assuming he folds) he's going to know he got bluffed. If he folds cause of what you typed, that alllll on him!

Oh and don't try bluffing him again for a while if you get the fold.
  #10  
29-11-2007, 10:50 PM
nevadanick
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Not enough info here. Like a lot of 'hand' questions, it would depend on if it were a freeroll, a big cash tourny, ring game, etc. If a tourny, when? Early, deep?? Will it have ANY effect on future plays and your table image?

In most cases, I would say nothing. Let him decide how bad he needs to know. Part would also depend on what the table attitude has been. There are those tables that are a blast to be on and everyone's having a good time, chatting, etc. Others where this is the first time silence has been broken.

Case by case basis, as is the case with most poker hands. I seldom show unless it benefits me in some specific way. No advantage? Why give them the info, IMO.
  #11  
29-11-2007, 11:03 PM
zachvac
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sorry, it was a cash table. The other details don't really matter though. The question wasn't whether I could induce a fold from table situation, just from the response. Also there's no rule that if you say you'll show you will. I really didn't care if he knew or not though, I was more concerned with winning the hand lol.
  #12  
29-11-2007, 11:12 PM
K4Lic0
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I find that you can say whatever you want to induce what you want to happen. Only when im with friends would i not lie about showing.
  #13  
29-11-2007, 11:24 PM
bubbasbestbabe
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Sure and then i do. Good to piss them off and put them on tilt when you steal that pot.
  #14  
29-11-2007, 11:28 PM
Dorkus Malorkus
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I think saying yes and then not showing is a far better tilt-inducer personally.
  #15  
29-11-2007, 11:34 PM
pigpen02
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I would say "sure". Then, if he folds, I fold, and say, "Darn, I have it on auto-muck", which I do.
  #16  
30-11-2007, 12:04 AM
DetroitJimmy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steveg1976
Type - "Pay to see them"
Yep.
  #17  
30-11-2007, 12:13 AM
jaketrevvor
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I agree with Dorkus and bbb play it for the tilt - and in my experience saying pay to see 'em makes villain think strong=weak=bluff

Perfect opportunity to tilt him massively go for it
  #18  
30-11-2007, 1:01 AM
tenbob
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If yes is no, and no is yes, and I lie sometimes. Then yep, I'll show
 


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