| This is a discussion on When sample size converge into reads within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; When we look at the stats V$IP and PFR we can usually get a read on a villain after 25 to 50 hands. Of course ... |
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| When sample size converge into reads When we look at the stats V$IP and PFR we can usually get a read on a villain after 25 to 50 hands. Of course that read becomes more reliable with more hands tracked. I used to label players after 50 hands or so based on these 2 stats but lately I am starting to think that is not a good idea. Instead of trying to categorize players like I used to, I am now expanding by decisions by including the following stats. 3bet PF Fold to 3bet Cold call Fold To Cbet The problem is everytime I sit down for a session I have no hands on about half the table. And even if I do have their Fold To CBet stat its usually along the lines of 2/5 or 3/4. So for the stat heads out there, what are some reasonable sample sizes for these stats? Hopefully we can come up with a nice list here so if anyone wants a stat to be included, just reply and I will post it up here. (BTW I did a search with no results if there is a thread like this already I apologize) Taking a wild stab I will venture to say the following number of hands are required to base any type of decision on. 3Bet PF - 50 hands or so. I would stay away from a 2/67 and get it in vs 8/45 Fold to 3Bet - About 10 hands. Cold call - Not gonna even attempt this one Fold to Cbet - 25 hands |
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