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  #36  
09-08-2007, 7:18 AM
arkadiy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stormswa
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of you could just watch my video I posted twice here and set it up


like I said what I posted was my opinion, I have used both and like pokertracker better, Pat is always making improvements to it and is a great guy.
I think you're a little but what I would call a "fan boy" lol

I liked poker office better when I used it, but use neither one as of right now.
 

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  #37  
09-08-2007, 7:44 AM
stormswa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arkadiy
I think you're a little but what I would call a "fan boy" lol

I liked poker office better when I used it, but use neither one as of right now.
which means?
  #38  
18-08-2007, 5:32 AM
royalstud
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DogWatch HandGrabber

im going to try it out....sounds okay...only $19 and you can pay via paypal.

Last edited by royalstud : 18-08-2007 at 5:33 AM. Reason: add info
  #39  
18-08-2007, 5:35 AM
stormswa
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Originally Posted by royalstud
im going to try it out....sounds okay...only $19 and you can pay via paypal.
why?

that is something just to datamine bodog, on bodog you can only datamine 3 tables or on full tilt datamine 17 tables. I will stick to full tilt. I can datamine full tilt for free with a script why oh why would you pay money just to datamine.


About DogWatch Handgrabber


DogWatch Handgrabber is the datamining software for Bodog poker tables.
It is easy to use. Just open one or more tables on Bodog. DogWatch Handgrabber will automatically detect them.
After the actual hand was finished, hand grabbing starts and generates HHF. While working it will be CPU friendly. On a Pentium 4 (2 GHz) it uses 0% of CPU most of the time and 2% at peak.
You can open up to three tables (limited by Bodog itself). It doesnt matter if you play active on these tables or just want to observe them. DogWatch Handgrabber grabs hands anyway.
You don't wanna watch the games? Just minimize everything. DogWatch Handgrabber will continue grabbing.



Features


»Get data while playing and/or observing.
» Automated Table Recognition.
» Low CPU Usage.
» Multi table hand grabbing.
» Tables can be minimized.
» Hold'em, Omaha, Stud and SNG support.
» Poker Tracker compatible (actually Hold'em- & Omaha ring games only).
  #40  
18-08-2007, 6:08 PM
DeadMoneyDad
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You are cheating yourself.

Poker software and HUDs are a crutch that should not be allowed in real money games IMO.

The extensive use of these "tools" is detremential to your poker game and bad for on-line poker overall.

You already have people datamining various levels of buy-in for months building up a large histroy on most players, before ever playing a hand. I have seen a discussion of one such group that is thinking of trying to market a service in combination with a specailized HUD based on their database of hand histories.

This type of break trough will change on-line poker again. No longer will the poker software put you on a range of hands based on what the average of all players might do and have done in a given situation, but based on what you have actually done based on every hand you've ever played.

Hand Histories were a development from the security side of the poker world of on-line poker. Someone had the idea that since we're touting that it's easy to learn poker we'll help you learn. Then software people had the idea of taking the basic idea of poker odds software and using the hand output to plug right into the calculators. Bingo a HUD odds calculator. Build up enough hands and you get a better read on your opponents.

Live poker from which on-line poker was dervied is about using your brain and bankroll to defeat the other players. Due to the misuse of this "training tool" on-line poker has become a perversion of poker. It is developing into some sort of software arms race.

The poker sites love software gimicks the way casions love "winning systems". They love the computerized multi-tablers who play less optiumally but generate more rake. They kill off the fish more slowly than a player playing optium poker.

However with the increased pressure from Congress to limit deposit options and with the ever increasing "tin foil hat theories" of poker bots, rigged RNGs, and the "mythical" hole card spy-ware, all the every increasingly sophisicated software will do is drive people away from on-line poker.

Your average person has no problem gambling with their brain and bankroll against others brains and bankroll but most feel cheated when they relaize that others might have an un-fair advantage.

Hand Hisotories should be banned or left in playchip land. Those that use them are cheating themselves out of improving their game. Sure you can multi-table and grind out a certain number of BB's an hour, always less than you can win at a single table, but over all profit per hour is higher. These will be the people other than the software developers who will most venomiously defend their use the most.

Try taking a computer into a live game!!!

Try taking your computerized game into a live game!!!

The use of these crutches destroyes you game and has the potential to corrupt the on-line poker industry into something no one will want to play.

So stop parking in the handicapped sapces..............
 


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