what makes a grinder a grinder?

Is it one big bet per hour?
Is it having a expected hourly win rate

How do you define a grinder what makes u one?

hmmm, no emotion

discipline

no tilt

understands variance

sticks to the game plan

big picture player

A true grinder plays tons of hands / games every day and is not result orientated, very focussed and disciplined ! He prepares and reviews his sessions...

I think of a grinder as a player who--1) puts in great volume, 2) has a positive win rate, 3) thinks systematically about the game and tries to improve as they play, 4) plays within their bankroll.

Grinders rarely "take shots" and money does not come pouring on them, but nor do they lose it easily. They accumulate capital slowly, but steadily and securely.

This is almost exacly how I would discribe a grinder.. The big thing I feel in this is Grinders rarely take shots because grinders don't take alot of risks. Grinders look for maximum gain for the least amount of risk...

pale skin, poor nutrition, zombie like approach to day to day activities, convinced work attire consists of sweatpants, ripped tshirt, and beanie.

I see a grinder as someone who (1) understands probability and (2) plays a lot of hands and who uses those two characteristics to grind out a profit. A grinder is not looking for "one big hand". He is utilizing every 1-2% advantage (taking the rake into consideration, of course) he can find to turn a profit over time. I am not a grinder but I admire what they are able to do.

I feel a grinder is a player who understands that solid play + volume > short term variance.

He just keeps putting in hour after hour, day after day, month after month until he looks up at the end of the year and sees a significant profit.

The Grinder, gotta love that as a poker term.

The grinder, is the poker player who understands variance, and willing to roll with it, hand after hand.

This is the best answer so far. No need to really say anything else.

the last world series say it all he was one foot out of the door then he become the chip leader then become short stacked again till he joined the final table of the series then he became the chip leader of the final table btu he lost after he put his 60 mil chips all in with 33 aganest A9

'pale skin, poor nutrition, zombie like approach to day to day activities, convinced work attire consists of sweatpants, ripped tshirt, and beanie.'

lmao

I could quote duffer, and have nothing to add to that...

GL

aC

This ^ is obviously the best answer.

I believe its a tie.

To me a grinder is someone with waaaayyyy more patience & time then me,lol

To me, a true grinder is someone who plays poker like it's a 9-5 job. Often without much joy, long hours, lowish pay, etc.

I also liked this answer, i agree with all of those things

to me a grinder is just someone who plays an awful lot of poker. Did you mean what makes an expert? I wrote an article about it. mods, if the link is not allowed let me know and I'll post some of the contents here instead.

* definition of 'grinder', taken from "Grinderschool" training site

grinder (n) a professional poker player who earns a living through small but consistent winnings (See also: rounder)

A ton of patience and discipline. Grind, grind grind!

Where You Can Find Grinders

Actually, you can find grinders in almost all types of poker in the lower and middle limits. You typically don't find a "grinder" per se at the nosebleed stakes. Most grinders will multi-table to the tune of eight or more simultaneous tables, oftentimes of identical game types and limits. For instance, a Sit and Go grinder might play eight tables at a time of $25 turbo 9-person Sit and Goes. Considering that 10% (after rake) is a great ROI for a Sit and Go player, that means that the player is only making $2.50 per sit and go. But if they can squeeze in 20 sit and goes in an hour, then they're "grinding" a $50 per hour win rate. By contrast, if that same player decided to go play a $200 Sit and Go, then they're now "off their grind" and taking a "shot" at a higher game.
You Should Also Know...

While some grinders do play almost exclusively large, multi-table tournaments, these people are a very rare breed. The goal in a large tournament is to make a big score, to win a sum of money that can sustain you until the next sizeable take. Some people are able to win small to medium prizes on a fairly consistent basis, but in general, grinders don't specialize in multi-table tournaments because luck can swing one's results too quickly in them and they take too long to make smaller wins worth the time.
Additionally, online players can earn rakeback to increase their hourly rate, and some online poker rooms only offer rakeback for cash games.

patience and putting your skills to work day in day out......

A grinder is a guy who likes to get up on a rail with his skateboard...A lot!
Honest !

And sometimes it might be a machine used to mash things up into very tiny pieces! Stuff like meat so bodybuilders can drink it with their milk or cars so they could eat them

To me a Grinder is someone that is patient and understands that being able to fold a big pair will win you more hands than learning how to push with it

grinding

That is just too funny. Love it!

A grinder is one who uses the fundamentals and the math of the game to win over the deep and complex plays that others employ.

Grinder-an electric tool used either verticaly or horizontaly with an abrasive disk to smooth off rough surfaces!!

lots of good responses.

Me, I'm a grinder, grinding 5nl fr right now, 40k-50k hands/ month.

Well...that answered a question for me that I have been wondering about for 10 years...believe me....I am no grinder...too few patience

I agree with BoltPoker and add to that staying up 24/7 for several days in a row, not caring about meals other than an occasional opened can of food at meal times to scoff quickly on breaks oh yeah and the zombie thing is perfect because you block out everything and everyone around you while in the all consuming zone

patience, bankroll mangement and varience

I would say when you focus on one type of game and you really put the hours in and win of course. Also somebody who can take a bad beat and think nothing of it.