What is a good win% if flop seen?

#1 8th December 2009, 1:09 AM

I've been playing a lot more online lately vs live and I'm starting to notice my stats. I'm playing mostly cash games - micro stakes .01 - .02 or .05 - .10, usually 6 handed NL Hold Em. I'm doing fairly well, usually win a little everday...anyway, I was checking out my stats and I noticed that my flop - seen % is rather high (But keep in mind I'm playing 6 handed 90% of the time) usually between 35% - 37% and my win % if flop seen is usually hovering around 60% or slightly higher....anyway, I was wondering if these numbers are bad, fair or good.

Thanks.

#2 8th December 2009, 2:53 AM

By you saying your flops seen %, you essentially mean your VPIP, correct? In that case, yes, yours is a little high, even for a 6-Max game it should be somewhere between about 18-24%. As far as your WWSF%(Won When Saw Flop), that is pretty high too, but in my mind it doesn't correlate with your VPIP unless you are getting very good hands all the time, or you are just outplaying your opponents postflop(usually don't see this too much at the micro limits because people don't let go of hands). A good WWSF% for 6-Max would be about 40-46%.

#3 8th December 2009, 6:34 AM

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Originally Posted by absoluthamm

By you saying your flops seen %, you essentially mean your VPIP, correct? In that case, yes, yours is a little high, even for a 6-Max game it should be somewhere between about 18-24%. As far as your WWSF%(Won When Saw Flop), that is pretty high too, but in my mind it doesn't correlate with your VPIP unless you are getting very good hands all the time, or you are just outplaying your opponents postflop(usually don't see this too much at the micro limits because people don't let go of hands). A good WWSF% for 6-Max would be about 40-46%.

I'm extremely aggressive post flop - in position ONLY - I pay attention to what flops - and depending on the flop - I'll play my opponent's hands what they think I might have - then bet accordingly. More than half the time, they fold - but yes, my flop win % is usually close to 60% give or take 5%, depending on the table, the day, etc.

#4 8th December 2009, 9:49 PM

I believe you can get too bogged down with stats. If you are on a losing run tighten up and vice versa . Only play when you are fresh and can enjoy it. Try and take a couple of days off each week to do something different. Don't become a poker bore(like me)

#5 8th December 2009, 10:10 PM

Your sample size is too small to mean anything.

#6 9th December 2009, 4:34 PM

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Originally Posted by c9h13no3

Your sample size is too small to mean anything.

Sample size too small?

More lke what is your sample size?
How many hands is this over?

1000 hands 100,000 hands?

#7 9th December 2009, 4:52 PM

I am slowly learning that a good WWFS% is mostly meaningless when you have a very low Flop-Seen%. I have a bad habit of winning much of what I play, but not playing enough to earn the chips for the long haul . . .

#8 9th December 2009, 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by c9h13no3

Your sample size is too small to mean anything.

That sample was taken from about 12,000 hands so it is rather small. I have since reset the tracker and now I'm floating between 48% - 52%.

#9 9th December 2009, 7:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Peterr211

I am slowly learning that a good WWFS% is mostly meaningless when you have a very low Flop-Seen%. I have a bad habit of winning much of what I play, but not playing enough to earn the chips for the long haul . . .

Therefore playing too tight of a game. Loosen up your starting hand range, even just a little, and you will show some improvement.

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