| This is a discussion on What is considered "session" Taxes within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; I was wondering if this example can be considered a session. I play cash games everyday (almost) after work.. from like 7pm till 9pm sometimes ... |
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| What is considered "session" Taxes I was wondering if this example can be considered a session. I play cash games everyday (almost) after work.. from like 7pm till 9pm sometimes a bit longer. I know the law does not really specify what a session is but i was wondering if that can be considered a session? The reason i`m asking is because it would be better for tax purposes i would rather ADD TOTALS from session winnings and then subtract session losses then consider every each hand i played. ex. I play 500 hands.. within this session at the end total winnings would be $50 ( although if i wouldn't have counted it as a session but rather per hands it could come out to something like winnings $400 losses $350) do you see how much of a difference in taxes it is? So Can this 2 hour/3 hour that i spend each day after work could be considered a session and just net results and claim it as a session? |
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| No, you do have to keep track of your sessions. And as far as I've been able to figure, a session would be the amount of time you played at a given limit and a given type of game at one sitting. For example, if you played $10NL for two hours, that would be a session. If you came back 3 hours later, that would be another session. If you played Razz and Hold 'em at the same time, that would be two different sessions. If you played $10NL and $25NL at the same time, I think that would be two separate sessions. Tournaments are easy, because each one is a session. All of this applies whether you are playing one game at a time, or multi-tabling. The IRS requires you to keep a log of all your sessions, as you know. Obviously, each hand isn't a session, but a session can't be a year long, either. Basically, if you stick with what I mentioned above, you'll probably be safe. I'm not a tax attorney, so don't hold me to all this, but I've done quite a bit of research into it and I think this is right. I also used to work for the IRS, getting cases ready for court. Judges are fairly reasonable, so if you have a method behind your madness and can explain it well, even if the IRS doesn't agree with you, you have a chance to convince the judge if it comes down to that. |
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ex.. session 1 +50 <-- net of the session (totals _ winnings +150 , losses -100) session 2 -10 <-- net of the session (totals _ winnings +200, losses -210) session 3 +20 <-- net of the session (totals _ winnings +300, losses -280) session 4 -20 <-- net of the session (totals _ winnings +100 , losses -120) so on my tax forms i fill out... winnings (income ) +70 , loses (deductions) -30 not.. winnings (income ) +650, loses (deductions) -610 correct? basically i add nets of sessions and list them as winning sessions and loosing sessions. correct? there is a huge difference in income tax if i do it by sessions rather then by just totals of all winnings and losses.. huge amounts in the second case... also.. since i`m switching my tables because some of them become empty that is still continuing one session correct? Last edited by TheseNutsWin : 31st January 2009 at 6:30 PM. |
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And yes, this only applies to non-professionals. Professional gamblers can combine their wins and losses and deduct other expenses, but then they are self-employed and have to pay self-employment tax, file quarterly, keep better records, and not have another full-time job. They have to show that it is indeed their profession and treat it as such. Much more complicated (but more fair). |
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