What Cardplayer has to say about the ban

I got this off of Cardplayer. I haven't finished reading it yet but thought others could read.

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_news...lass=PokerNews

I cant believe how they put that into the bill so late. It goes to show you no matter where you live the politicians are sneaky and coniving with a sea of greed that never ends.

That article makes good sense. Everyone should read it. It puts the whole thing in perspective.

Thanks for the link to the article; it was very informative. The only thing that isn't addressed is that there are sites (Like Victor Chandler) that have already removed US players prior to this legislation. And in my eyes, that is the more important issue. How many sites will cave under the pressure (we've already seen quite a few) and how many will fight for the US customer.

Well from what I've read/heard, regardless how many cave, there will still be an online poker business since there will be alternatives (re: depositing etc) that don't conflict with the bill. New sites will emerge as there will still be a massive demand for online poker in the states.

This article expresses my point, this shouldnt change much of anything

but yet sites like titan poker are ready to drop us players all of a sudden?

The logical step for the poker sites would be to remove payment/withdrawl options which are banned under this legislation for US players. Which would include US Bank Accounts and Credit/Debit Cards, and any intermediate system which is used solely for gambling. IE, not NETeller. There is nothing in this law that would prevent US players from using NETeller as an intermediary between their Bank Account and any Poker Site, unless the law stipulated that banks could not send funds to any intermediary which has ANY affiliation with online gaming, which it does not.

So, essentially.. the way I have been playing poker all along is (and the way most Americans do), is still completely legal.

Whatever, hopefully this will all blow over soon.

i thought the '270 days' bit to come up with an enforcement strategy is friggin' hillarious. wouldn't it make more sense to figure out how you're going to enforce the law before you enact it? personally i still think this is all a lot of hot air. They're making something illegal (with the credit cards) that you couldn't do anyway, and with the bank transactions (debit cards i'm assuming) that should be quite easy to get around. btw i also found it quite amusing that the only way they suggested they could prevent third party poker transactions (i.e. neteller) would be to blacklist them, ultimatly strong arming them into submission. that's soooo what this country's all about. but the main reason why i am hesitent to believe all this hype is because, if this legislation was really serious about preventing US residents from playing online poker, it would incude forcing ISP's to block american players from accessing these sites. Until i see such a bill (which i doubt we will as they were unable to do it with online file sharing, which involved copywrite infringement, a far more serious crime then gambling, and which also provided far less taxable revenue) I can't help but think that all of what we are now seeing is simply the first step of the US gov't liscensing a limited number of online casinos. SO much of this seems to be about 'offshore' accounts, which the US has no ability to regulate, let alone take a slice of. Will this have no effect on the industry? Will we still be playing at all the same sites that we know and love? Of course not. But will we still be playing online poker in 1, 5, 10 years if we so choose? If i were a gambling man, i'd bet we will be, in one capacity or another.

-n

However, actually putting thought into it would not have allowed the prick to slip it in under the wire before people actually knew it what was really happening and reacting to it strongly enough. Besides, thinking through shit is something the US gov't is extremely bad at when it comes to just passing new legislation for something blown so far out of proportion as this 'need' is.

Yup there always Slipping something in,, I Hope the Voters in Tennessee Vote that Frist guy out of office in November>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. buck
Im the oldest guy here and this kind of Bullshit has been going on for my 61 years, and a lot longer than that i am sure, There ALL Sneaky SOB`s>>>>>>>>>>>>> buck