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  #1
8th July 2009, 3:45 PM
beardyian
 
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US Poker online legal movement?

Sounds as though there maybe some movement in the legal online poker battle

http://www.new-poker-news.com/uncate...zation-update/
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  #2
8th July 2009, 4:07 PM
Falian
 
This is great news. Give me a year to perfect my game and when poker is legalized fishing will be easy.
  #3
8th July 2009, 4:29 PM
Infamous1020
 
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Game: Hold'em/PLO
  #4
8th July 2009, 4:31 PM
ImolAyrton
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: PLO
re: US Poker online legal movement?

Very stupid that Poker in the USA is not everywhere legal.. Its ****in bullshit, I hope it wil be in a few years legal all over the world. It's just a sport like any other sport
  #5
8th July 2009, 7:19 PM
greywind50
 
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Great news! and I'd gladly pay the taxes just to play........DID I REALLY JUST SAY THAT!
  #6
8th July 2009, 9:28 PM
wagon596
 
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Game: holdem
great

I got in on the poker boom, online after the USA lost some sites,,, it would be nice to see the world competing for our play. Hope it comes about soon.
Cya'll
  #7
9th July 2009, 9:59 AM
DuaneK
 
Plays at: ultimate
Game: holdem
I belive state laws prohibiting on line poker will overtide the federal law. Think I read it on cc a while back.
DuaneK
  #8
9th July 2009, 2:43 PM
Falian
 
re: US Poker online legal movement?

Quote:
Originally Posted by DuaneK
I believe state laws prohibiting on line poker will overtide the federal law. Think I read it on cc a while back.
DuaneK
Usually Federal Laws > State.

And if the majority of states start legalizing it then the few opposing it wouldn't be preventing any gambling, it would be too easy... They would just be missing out on tax dollars.
  #9
9th July 2009, 4:52 PM
GCB
 
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Game: Hold'em
Legal or not?

What's the real story on online poker for money legality? I've heard it's not legal. I've heard actually legal, but the banks won't cooperate to transfer money. And I've heard it's totally legal so play to your heart's content.

What's the story?

Thanks.
  #10
9th July 2009, 4:56 PM
GCB
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: Hold'em
Re: Legal or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GCB
What's the real story on online poker for money legality? I've heard it's not legal. I've heard actually legal, but the banks won't cooperate to transfer money. And I've heard it's totally legal so play to your heart's content.

What's the story?

Thanks.

Found this reply to my own question.
There is NO federal law that makes the act of wagering online illegal. The only federal law that addresses gambling is the wire act from the 1960’s which makes it illegal to place wagers via the telephone. The US government passed a port security law and tacked on provisions (UIGEA) that make it illegal for BANKS, not players, to fund or accept payment from “illegal” gaming sources. The only problem (for the govt) is that there are dozens of third party poker methods available for funding and no way to trace ACH credits. Another problem for the DOJ is that they qualified the online gambling statement with “illegal online gambling” yet failed to define “illegal online gambling”. There is no law that speaks to online gambling so UIGEA refers to no specific activity. In other words, the new provisions are only for show, a meager attempt to turn the banks into law enforcement agencies, and the end result is a waste of ink. I still use my VISA check card and e-check on my favorite sites. Online gaming will be impossible to completely eliminate from the US. The best they can do is make it inconvenient. Eventually I see the industry being regulated and taxed.

The only states with laws directed towards online wagering are Michigan, Illinois, Louisiana, Oregon, Wisconsin, Washington, Indiana, Nevada, New York, New Jersey and South Dakota. Although these states do have specific laws pertaining to online gaming, there has not been any charges laid and those laws are vague and currently being challenged.

Some sites have decided, on their own, to no longer accept American players. These are the publicly traded companies and most have returned to private owners. All of the sites that have been prosecuted have been for accepting wagers from Americans WHILE being based on US soil! It has nothing to do with off shore online gambling. There are still many highly reputable sites that welcome and cater to American clients.

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  #11
9th July 2009, 5:41 PM
Xavier
 
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Game: NL Hold em
Can someone in the US say how much this bullshit has affected the number of people playing the game in the country?
Would player traffic online go up significantly if the ban was lifted?
  #12
9th July 2009, 6:20 PM
kadafi
 
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Game: holdem
re: US Poker online legal movement?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ImolAyrton
Very stupid that Poker in the USA is not everywhere legal.. Its ****in bullshit, I hope it wil be in a few years legal all over the world. It's just a sport like any other sport

LoL I dont think poker is a sport in anyway. Its more like a betting game, that when played with intelligence, can help a person turn a profit. But it should be legal.
  #13
9th July 2009, 6:58 PM
K_Kahne_Fan
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: Hold-Em
Quote:
Originally Posted by kadafi
LoL I dont think poker is a sport in anyway. Its more like a betting game, that when played with intelligence, can help a person turn a profit. But it should be legal.
I don't think sport/not matters. I think that those over 18 should be able to gamble their paychecks away if they wish; but apparently our "mommies" and "daddies" in congress feel they should be able to tell us no.

BTW, I feel the same with prostitution and drugs. I don't use either of them, but I think if an adult wants to use either of them, it should be their call.
 



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