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  Poker - Ugly American
 
  #1  
12-05-2008, 4:40 AM
$nidely
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Ugly American

As an American myself, I'm really dissapointed at the fact it seems almost all the Whiners, Complainers, and Smack Talkers are Americans. Too many players start with the Donk this, Donk that, What an idiot stuff whenever they lose a hand. Lots of times these players don't even have much of an advantage. It's just that the other player didn't play the way "they" thought was proper. I've gotten surprizingly little of this comment directed at me, given that I'm still new to the internet aspect of poker. I get frustrated too when my pocket K's get called by some 5 / 8 offsuit and then they hit a draw, but it serves no purpose to trash talk and berate someone. I further see it as one of the heights of cowardice. It's easy to smack talk when the person isn't there. I guarantee these people wouldn't pull this more than once or twice in a live game at a poker house.

So Lighten up Americans. Show some class. You only make the rest of us look bad and all you accomplish is making all the other players smile when you bust out.

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  #2  
12-05-2008, 4:43 AM
vanquish
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  #3  
12-05-2008, 4:47 AM
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qft
  #4  
12-05-2008, 4:47 AM
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  #5  
12-05-2008, 4:56 AM
Paw_kit Aces
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Yah right,

A. On pokerstars the player are mostly Americans, so you will see more trash talking by Americans just by the sheer number of players.
B. I have seen German players get down right nasty many times. Ask them to speak English while playing and see what kind of reaction u get. I've had to call the moderator many times, because the sometime refuse to speak English. I always ask nicely and every time, they either ignore me or get nasty.
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12-05-2008, 4:57 AM
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Baby Sloth Rocks!
  #7  
12-05-2008, 5:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by $nidely View Post
As an American myself, I'm really dissapointed at the fact it seems almost all the Whiners, Complainers, and Smack Talkers are Americans. Too many players start with the Donk this, Donk that, What an idiot stuff whenever they lose a hand. Lots of times these players don't even have much of an advantage. It's just that the other player didn't play the way "they" thought was proper. I've gotten surprizingly little of this comment directed at me, given that I'm still new to the internet aspect of poker. I get frustrated too when my pocket K's get called by some 5 / 8 offsuit and then they hit a draw, but it serves no purpose to trash talk and berate someone. I further see it as one of the heights of cowardice. It's easy to smack talk when the person isn't there. I guarantee these people wouldn't pull this more than once or twice in a live game at a poker house.

So Lighten up Americans. Show some class. You only make the rest of us look bad and all you accomplish is making all the other players smile when you bust out.

$nidely
The German guy who called me a "Pig-F*****g Bush Lover" would disagree with you. But thanks for generalizing. You've made yourself look nearly as bad as those you accuse.
  #8  
12-05-2008, 5:17 AM
$nidely
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German smack

I agree that I've seen trash talk by germans, as well as others, but I still maintain that most are American. Besides, I'm not offended by the Germans or others because I'm not German.

$nidely
  #9  
12-05-2008, 5:18 AM
$nidely
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BTW

First time I've seen Baby Sloth...A bit disturbing

$nidely
  #10  
12-05-2008, 5:20 AM
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You shouldn't be offended by Americans either trash talking or not. Why give somebody the power to offend you. If they are an idiot they're an idiot German, American, or whatever.
  #11  
12-05-2008, 5:23 AM
$nidely
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Now that is probably the best advice I've seen on any forum on any subject
  #12  
12-05-2008, 5:26 AM
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The German guy who called me a "Pig-F*****g Bush Lover" would disagree with you. But thanks for generalizing. You've made yourself look nearly as bad as those you accuse.
Schweingeschlecht-Buschgeliebter!!
  #13  
12-05-2008, 6:28 AM
zachvac
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Well I'm assuming the majority of players are American, so that would make sense that the most idiots are American. I'm pretty sure the most classy players are also American. I've had 3 people on 3 separate occasions bash me for being American and basically just start bashing the country. So I defended it and basically made the other guy look like an idiot on all 3 of them. As much as I dislike our current President, he is our President and there are enough true things about him to trash him without making things up. It's fun when I'm debating someone who basically thinks he's the King of the US and doesn't understand our government at all.
  #14  
12-05-2008, 6:32 AM
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[ ] thread delivers
[x] vanq salvages disastrous thread
  #15  
12-05-2008, 6:53 AM
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I realize this is about online play but...

Tony G? Devilfish? I never would have pegged them as being Americans. Go figure.
  #16  
12-05-2008, 6:58 AM
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First of all No one can say that because this person trash talks, that the whole country is bad, there ppl aren't classy and so forth and so on.
Secondly this is online ppl are behind there screen in the comfort of there homes, and basically here there the kings, Queens, and Supream Ruller.
Thridly I'm Canadain eh, and I do my fair share of you mother, ****er, donkey son a bitch piece of shit, and the trueth is, It's not really directed at the person but in an odd and yet truethful manner it helps me deal with a Bad Beat, now if it was in person would I say the same Thing, well I Can say Yes but then again you wouldn't know, because you don't know me, and that's the beauty of online poker
  #17  
12-05-2008, 10:05 AM
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I love it when I get trash talked, most of the time it spurs me on and I really enjoy knocking the guy out of the sng's I play.

Yesterday I got called a camel jockey by an american (even after Id explained I was the whitest bloke ever). This does not mean its all americans are like this though I had all countrys from English, German, Brazilians and more trash talk. Notice its usally the guys who are losing?

In the same respect I have sat at a tables with all nations and had some great convosations about poker and all sorts of things, how nice that is and is sort of what the game is all about for me.
  #18  
12-05-2008, 10:46 AM
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couldnt tell you if im being trash talked,usually keep chat turned off ,for that reason,among others
  #19  
12-05-2008, 1:04 PM
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^^^ same here, I usualy just leave stats up and ignore the chat unless it's a CC game where freinds come over to rail with ya.

On the rare occasion it's on I kinda like seeing the trash talker, he's usualy good for a bunch of easy chips. I don't bother to reply to him at all becaus it just seams to make them madder therefore more susceptable to making horrible calls. he ofter min bets to the river where a nice stroung check raise makes his ego call where his brain would have mucked the cards in a blink.
  #20  
12-05-2008, 6:32 PM
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I'm an american who is sometimes ashamed of the "ugly american" stereotype at the tables also. But I've played long enough to have read some pretty horrible things typed in by others from all over the world as well. Just last month, some kid from Italy hoped I would get cancer and die slowly after I felted him for the 3rd time in a ringer! .... wheres the love?!?

And don't forget that we americans make up approx. 80% of the online poker player base! so the numbers are bound to appear slanted,,,

GL
  #21  
12-05-2008, 7:09 PM
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I think there have been some studies into this (don't remember where I read these), but there are real differences in the average playing ability according to geographic location. I guess because Finland fairs so well, we don't have say such things.

I think America's playing ability is low on average when compared to the rest of the world, resulting in such things getting said when the fish are taken for their money.
  #22  
13-05-2008, 3:24 AM
N.D.
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See there? Proof it's not just Americans who trash talk. It's just that the Fins like to be more, oh, I dunno, subtle.
  #23  
13-05-2008, 3:34 AM
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You listen to players and what they are sayin? Oh, and that baby thing is really ugly.
  #24  
13-05-2008, 3:55 AM
vanquish
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You listen to players and what they are sayin? Oh, and that baby thing is really ugly.
that is my child.
  #25  
13-05-2008, 4:03 AM
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Americans spam more too
  #26  
13-05-2008, 4:03 AM
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^^ must be proud van
why does it matter where the smack talk is coming from? if someone is being insulting just mute them
  #27  
13-05-2008, 4:48 AM
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Why does it matter what county the bad mouth is from?
If haved americans,germans,brits,danish,brazilans,french,ja panish,russian and even a person from jamica call me(or other at the table) all kinds of nasty names. That does not mean all people from that country are like that,i actually think it proofs the oposite that where all the same.
Every country haves its idiot and allround a**holes,best whe to deal with them is just mute them and not give them the pleasure of geting under your skin.
  #28  
13-05-2008, 4:54 AM
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sry your kid is ugly van.
  #29  
13-05-2008, 5:04 AM
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Ok this is my first response to anything, lol......I noticed that most of the people who talk trash are Americans (on fulltilt) but I personally think this is because most of the players seem to be from there, I'm from NZ and its quite rare to play another NZer unless of course its the NZ free roll then we seem to those annoying people too
  #30  
13-05-2008, 9:05 AM
N.D.
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That baby's just a little bit special. That's all.
  #31  
13-05-2008, 1:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sindri_93 View Post
Every country haves its idiot and allround a**holes,best whe to deal with them is just mute them and not give them the pleasure of geting under your skin.
You'll never see a**holes from Finland playing, as they are either locked in basements or playing at pokerihuone.com freerolls
  #32  
13-05-2008, 1:50 PM
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trash talkers are fun spec if u can bust em with a bad beat then watch em go supernova an follow u around ranting about how much u suck
  #33  
15-05-2008, 6:09 AM
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I was just double teamed by two of the jerks (opponent was fron Gainesville - that's America right? LOL).

*********** # 11 **************
PokerStars Game #17439227370: Tournament #88405580, $33.00+$1.50 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2008/05/15 - 00:48:59 (ET)
Table '88405580 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: robwhufc (980 in chips)
Seat 2: D. Execute (2020 in chips)
robwhufc: posts small blind 10
D. Execute: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to robwhufc [5s 7h]
robwhufc: raises 40 to 60
D. Execute: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [Ks 3c Qh]
D. Execute: checks
robwhufc: bets 90
D. Execute: calls 90
*** TURN *** [Ks 3c Qh] 9
D. Execute: checks
robwhufc: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ks 3c Qh 9d] 9♠
D. Execute: checks
robwhufc: bets 200
D. Execute: calls 200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
robwhufc: shows [5s 7h] (a pair of Nines)
D. Execute: shows [Qs 7s] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
D. Execute collected 700 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 700 | Rake 0
Board [Ks 3c Qh 9d 9s]
Seat 1: robwhufc (button) (small blind) showed [5s 7h] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 2: D. Execute (big blind) showed [Qs 7s] and won (700) with two pair, Queens and Nines
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "my god"
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "that was pretty intense"
D. Execute said, "how do u feel about what just happened there"
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "no he ****in didnt"
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "no he didnt"
D. Execute said, "oh no"
D. Execute said, "ohhhhh no"
D. Execute said, "that was a ****in snapcall"
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "he just slaughtered ur whole family on that call"
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "that was pretty sickening"
robwhufc said, "i'm out of my depth i know that"
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "your in way over your head thats for sure"
D. Execute said, "at least u know im better than u"
D. Execute said, "unlike most donkeys on here that try and execute me"
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "literally a zero percent chance of u winning this tournament"
robwhufc said, "i know"
D. Execute said, "well"


D. Execute said, "u just pushed ur K6"
D. Execute said, "lol"
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "i take all your chips"
D. Execute said, "thats pretty pathetic"
D. Execute said, "were gonna play a game"
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "ull just get to build ur confidence against this FISH"
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "even u getting lucky wont let u win"

PokerStars Game #17439276868: Tournament #88405580, $33.00+$1.50 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2008/05/15 - 00:52:24 (ET)
Table '88405580 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: robwhufc (1220 in chips)
Seat 2: D. Execute (1780 in chips)
robwhufc: posts small blind 15
D. Execute: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to robwhufc [8c Kd]
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "while ur wife has my chubby in her mouth"
robwhufc: raises 50 to 80
D. Execute: raises 130 to 210
robwhufc: calls 130
*** FLOP *** [Kh 8d Ah]
D. Execute: bets 210
robwhufc: raises 800 to 1010 and is all-in
D. Execute: calls 800
*** TURN *** [Kh 8d Ah] 6
*** RIVER *** [Kh 8d Ah 6d] A♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
D. Execute: shows [Ts Ad] (three of a kind, Aces)
robwhufc: shows [8c Kd] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
MIAfan69420 [observer] said, "laterrrrr dude"
D. Execute collected 2440 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2440 | Rake 0
Board [Kh 8d Ah 6d As]
Seat 1: robwhufc (button) (small blind) showed [8c Kd] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 2: D. Execute (big blind) showed [Ts Ad] and won (2440) with three of a kind, Aces

(P.S my wife is asleep upstairs and definately does NOT have the MIA person's (MIA = Miami? Miami is USA right?) chubby in her mouth.
  #34  
15-05-2008, 2:33 PM
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Jesus loves you robwhufc. Jesus loves you .
  #35  
15-05-2008, 10:26 PM
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you right some time i dont belive the things peopel rights.hugs from denmark
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