Two same hands at the same time on two different poker rooms multi-tabling?

Has this ever happened to you? You are playing a tourny on two different sites at the same time and you suddenly get the same hand, say 85 off suit, on both tournys at the same time? I have noticed this many, many times and wonder if it could be attributed to the "random" number generator being the same for both sites or if it is more coincidence? To me it seems that it is not just coincidence. I've also noticed that I would get say, A10 suited in the hole on one game and then Aces and 10s appear on the board on the other? Similar situation or what? Anyway, It seems weird to me.

There's only so many combinations of starting hands/flops/etc in holdem. Eventually you'll get two identical ones, just as you would playing one table at a time. Each site uses their own RNG, they aren't in cahoots

Yep... happened last night while playing Take2 Promo,.... Kd-2s on both tables.

I've looked at your other posts and you don't seem to be a rigged enthusiast, but atleast an individual site rigging action is plausible (althought there would be evidence) Making connections between hands at different sites, that's uh...

Its a coincidence.

Yeah, I was going to say that it happened within the same software at two different tables before also. It probably is just a coincidence. I was unaware that sites used proprietary number generators. I thought I read somewhere that there was shared use.

I would say that it's a complete coinsidence, since there is so many different hands that you could have at one time.

I've not experienced it on different sites, since when I multi-table it is always on the same site, preferring to tile my tables instead. However... I have had a couple of occasions where I've been dealt exactly the same cards (value and suit) for two consecutive hands... I can't remember if I won each time though!!

What are the chances of that happening? Answers on a postcard to....

I got AA on two different SNGs at the same time on FullTilt today. Doubled up on both, lol

I've seen it when multi-tabling on the same site quite a few times, but as said it's a coincidence based on a limited number of starting hands. If it were due to the RNG, it would be a regular pattern as the sequence out of a proper RNG is non-deterministic (which is what makes it "random"). And no, none of these sites "share" an RNG, that would be silly. Most implement custom and proprietary RNGs and consider them trade secrets. If their algorithms were shared it would make them more vulnerable to exploitation, although with properly complex seeding entropy even knowing the exact algorithm would make one exceedingly difficult to exploit.

anyone had this kind of experiences?
I had same hand 4 time in a row, and if i played I would win every single game.
I had 8,3 same and off 4 times, but i didn't play.
i remember first game flop full house, second game trip 3's third game four of kind 8's last game two pair 8 and 3.
isn't this amazing?

Play enough hands and eventually you'll see everything happen at least once

Yesterday, while putting in some ring time in to make sure I get my daily quota, I got in two separate games at the same time. A few minutes later, I got at the same time in the same two separate games.

This happens so very often for me. I consider it completely coincidence, but when I'm playing two tables on FT, the flop on one table looks a lot like the ideal flop for my hole cards on the other table, and vice versa. Like 6 10 off hole cards on one table and 10 6 10 flop on the other table. Stuff like that. All the time. Sometimes I get to wondering, and then it basically comes down to this: I play a crap load of poker. Hehe.

Humans are great at picking out patterns. There are hundreds of thousands of "oh that's neat" things that can grab out attention. The millions of bits of information that we sift through get discarded and we don't think much about them.

So yeah, you'll get the same to cards on occasion. It's going to happen a lot more often than you getting the exact same cards two hands in a row at the same table because there is hand overlap when you multi-table. That is, you get 7h/9c on one table, then Ks/4s on the other table, then discard the 7h/9c and pick up Ks/4s. SAME HAND ALERT! But the Ks/4s was compared to two hands.

And of course, you multiply the effect when you multi-table.

There is no chance that multiple sites are using the same random number utilities to give you the same hand at the same time. Even if they had the same equipment, different numbers are fed in (some based on player activity) to get the output. Heck, even if the same numbers were fed in similar machines at the exact same time they'd have different outputs. And the outputs are used for thousands of players on each site, so even if the results were the same, the odds of your seat (out of the thousands on the site) being hit with that output are greater than the odds of just getting dealt the same hand at random.

oh yeah, i've gotten, on two diff sites at the same time...i scrambled to take a picture but was TOO LATE BAHH!!...dealt the same hand, and saw the same flop (they WERE in different order though but it was still very cool)...gotta be some crazy odds on that happening. i do not remember any of the cards which is typical

I was going to say something to this effect but this guy ruined it with his bullshit. I have had the same hand back to back several times but it is hardly ever the same suits. Still waiting for the back to back bullets though.

If the hands were on the same screen, next time just hit Print Screen on a windows based system or Ap Shift 3 on a MAC. On the PC you'll need to then paste somewhere like Paint, but at least you will have captured the image.

It happens.

The first night I played multi on Bodog it happened with such frequency that I captured a bunch of images and emailed them to tech support. They replied that they saw my point but that it's totally random.

I still see it from time to time on Full Tilt. It's called being Fooled by Randomness, seeing patterns where none really exist.

I've learned that if you play enough you'll eventually see everything, however improbable it might be.

i've experienced this more with 2 tables on the same site. and it happens a lot getting the same hand. i just shake my head.

I had the same thing happen on Fulltilt a few days ago. I was dealt J10 3 times in a row...all suited & the very same each time ! It was weird, but as Savage Penguin said earlier, our brains have a tendency to pick up these 'coincidences'...just chalk it up to 'being human'!

I think that there is no pattern in randomn ess or howelse could it be called randomness after all? But, I do think that if you play enough poker hands especially if you nare playing several hands at a time that yo are bound to be fooled about a fix or some sort of pattern showing up.

I don't think I have had it happen that much when I multi. I have had it happen with the same hand three times in a row at the same table. This seems to happen to me on quite a few ocassions.

lol... happened to me one time... i was playing 10 handed SNG's on Full tilt & Cake poker...I got the same hand...Ah Ac...and busted from both....nice coincidence..huh?))

I've had AA 3 times on different tables at the same time, though it was the same site. True story.

Had them too on the same table. Showed down in the first pot everyone folded second but i showed anyway. People were getting scared of me =)

Yeah just got JJ twice in a row to start a tourny on FTP yesterday. Won with both.

Has anyone ever been dealt T4o looked outside and noticed it was raining?

Coincidence or external influence?

Worthy of a thread?

In one tournament i played... I had ace 9 diamonds 2 hands in a row with the flop being 3d,4c,8d both times...same suit and everything.
I said wow @ the flop and someone said that they had the same cards in the 2 hands... just like i did.
No one else said anything but it could be that the deal was repeated.

Ok this is a good one. This should dispell some of the myths that cards come out absolutely randomly. For a three day period somewhere around March or April of this yr., I was running an "ALL-IN" experiment of my own to see what would "hit" while I played Face The Ace FRs on FTP and I began seeing the old "Montana Banana (92 suited for those who don't know) and I decided to try it. BINGO! I began trying every single MB hand ALL-IN and it hit every time on multiple different software platforms but none like the FTA FRs. I understand also that it depends on who called me and all but darned if it didn't hit just about every time against almost any kind of hand. I would get either 22something or 99something on the flop or I would hit the flush with one or the other hole card. I can't explain it, don't know if it's even worth mentioning, but is it just another one of those "anomolies"? It is most likely the cause but as an experienced computer guy and decent math/science person I pick up on some of these "anomolies" and it DOES pay off sometimes.

Hallelujah the statistically improbable happens again--somebody call the papers!

^^^Agree. We've all experienced this from time to time, it's not like it is a common occurence though.
^^^Exactly.
^^Is it just me or is this comment a bit over the top and not necessary to speak that way to another member?
^^^Lmao! Yes, let me get my tinfoil hat before you begin!
^^^So how many times did this happen? Do you have a hud or your hand histories so you can post it here?

Dispel some of the myths? As a long-time computer guy and math/science person myself, I am pretty confident that there is no "myth" about any major sites' RNGs being random. They are random, as random as can be generated by a computer (which is never purely random as defined by nature, but close enough for human consumption). Randomness, by it's definition, will generate identifiable patterns over a long run. Just because it doesn't "look" random, or you identify patterns, doesn't make it less random. Random doesn't mean there are no patterns, it means they are non-deterministic and cannot be predicted. You might seize upon a pattern and "correctly" predict what will happen next, but it is nothing more than coincidence. Try to do it over a long sample period and see how good your predictions run.

Nice tought here..
True.. there is no real ramdom in nature..
Everything can be predicted.. not by humans tho...lol....

I agree with you whole-heartedly and I think we are actually on the same page on this. Computer generated random is not the same as random random. Human generated random is not random random either and computers and software are made by humans. Similarly, the poker sites' software may use different generators but how different are the generators? And aren't each of these generators VALIDATED BY HUMANS AS TO THEIR RANDOMNESS AND FAIRNESS? To bring this whole thread together and to make some sense of all of this I want to say that nothing in life is entirely random. There are specific correlations between events and there outcomes. And yes humans are great at picking out patterns and also at exploiting them for some form of gain. I AM NOT SAYING THAT POKER ROOMS ARE IN CAHOOTS! I HAVE NOT CAPTURED A HAND HISTORY OF THESE OCCURANCES MYSELF BUT I CAN SEE OTHERS HAVE SO I AM NOT ALONE IN MY OBSERVATIONS. Each post that someone makes that they had this such and such hand and this happened....only confirms that most likely everyone who plays poker, or any other game for that matter, looks for patterns or anything that can give them an edge. That being said, if you notice something happening again and again such as QQ losing continually to AA or every time you catch a pair someone else has a better one, or whatever it may be, don't ignore it but don't bet your life savings on it either. That is really all I wanted to say.

I have noticed a pattern.

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