Top Players at Cardschat

Lol, I could picture Pantin in the CC thong he won, playing in a womens team.
Just because they talk about poker dosen't mean they are good players, Just look at the past CC Buy in leader boards Katymaty is always at or near the top.
you don't need to talk poker to be a good poker player.


BTW, Am I anywhere near being on the list.

Yeah, she has great stats (I think she has like 40+ CC wins); and I've got to say after having the opportunity to play her heads up, she should probably be on your list. Excellent uberaggressive player.

I really don't think I belong to the same list as Chuck, Zach, Jagsti or F Paulson,... If I moved up to 100NL now, they would be the guys taking all my money. But it's nice of you to put me that list anyway.

Also, I don't think you can really make a single list. Best cash players and best tournament players lists would probably be quite different. In part because i think there's a lot less people in ring games than in tournaments and SNGs here on cardschat.

Eh, one quality post per day has gotta be enough I say

Belgo, I disagree, It's not necessarily about the limits you play. I'd say it's more about your reasoning in the HA, that I judge a good player on. And I would put you in that list for sure, along with C9, BW, Switch, WV and certainly ChrisTC. Also Comb etc etc, sorry if I missed any1 out.

Regarding the ladies of the forum, I think they are totally misjudged, as they contribute very little to the HA section. However, when I have played in the CC events, Daks, Juicee and BBB kick ass definately.

BTW, Mr Muckets, enough of the delay, what with this thread anyway. You say there is an ulterior motive, I'm curious!

KatyMaty consistently takes down 1st place in CC events - a bad day for her is 3rd. I think she is overlooked because she doesn't really say much in the forum outside of the game threads. I would love to see her contributing in the strategy and HA threads, she has definitely got a handle on the game of poker.

Hey look the women want to play poker! How can they think they are better than us? You guys are so pathetic. We women don't have to slap it on the table to show who's bigger. We have beaten you guys so many times. We don't need to brag. Our bankrolls are reward enough for us.

I think it's time to set up that old standby Gals vs Guys tourney. A lot has changed here and hands down the women are better players than a lot of the guys you list here.

My list of top players would be me, Daks, JCQ, (as long as she isn't playing against me ), April, Katy, Bella, Trish, Jane, Beth and Kim. We have beaten you guys too many times. We just don't crow about it. And all of you know we have beaten you. In fact there are some who take particular delight in trying to beat us. We can't win all the time. So when we don't you guys think you are masters of the universe. Think again.

Funny how timing works out. It is in September.

Good. These boys need a lesson.

I totally agree with you regarding the women of the forum and their abilities to play, as i mentioned earlier, But I don't agree with you Karen, when you say "You Guys" please be more specific, don't just lump us all together please. not all guys share this opinion.

Yep BBB, chk this out

Well now, how does it feel to lumped with the other Neanderthals? You now get a taste of what it feels like for us women to be put into the "Not good enough" list. When I say you guys I mean the ones who who think they are the BSDs of this forum.

Oh well, I tried.

A good player will have made more money than they have lost at poker from the day they started until now. It's a pretty small group and gender has little or nothing to do with it.

Now ladies, make me a cup of tea and a sandwich.

dj11 outa be there

i agree 100% with these names,,,buck, OK to the Kitchen now Gals,,lol

Dont you remember what happened last time,,,lol buck

i agree, was just gonna put dj up here,, dont know if Rob was mentioned, but Rob`s a good player,, we have loads of good players here, Guys and Gals,, thats cause i Taught them,lol ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,buck

dj knows better. He has been pwned more times than a used car.

Yes I do that's why I said a lot has changed here. The women playing now are much better than we had last time. So bring it on, Uncle Buck!

I have to agree with MrSticker on this.
And I'd like to add that "top" lacks sufficient definition, and verifiability is an issue.

Bragging rights are fun, but people should concentrate on making the most of their own game.

I agree with part 1 and hopefully I will fall into that category sometime within the next year. Have been running pretty good lately overall. I still feel I am years away from being where you guys are though.

On the sandwich and tea thing. You are a slanty. I am a mod. According to the guidelines you serve me. And my car needs to be washed.

And BBB - we won the guys vs gals last time. We will win it again this time. They crumble when they face us.

I agree with Rex here in regards to the making money part. So using this criteria, I don't qualify. But I appreciate the mention all the same. I think I'm an "average" player, who, if time permitted, could be a lot more with proper study. But I just don't have the time for that unfortunately.

As for that sandwich, dear Rex...nevermind the slight taste of almonds...I'm sure it's perfectly safe for consumption. I made it myself.

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Ok Jaqsti, here's the reason for this thread.

The thread was never meant to be hostile to women or anyone. What I intended was to put together a list of names of those people who had demonstrated their poker savvy through posting articles or analyzing hands.
It was not a pissing contest as many of the ladies have tried to make it. I'm all for sisterhood but come on girls think about it before you pop off.

What I am thinking is we get these top players together and have them on a voluntary basis. Set up a little inner circle.

Now I know that will raise some eyebrows so let me explain.
Every now and again a poster will come along and post that they want to go pro. Fair enough but lets really aid this person. Advise him or HER, to play in a SnG against eight of the players from the list. A 5.00 buy in should be enough to encourage play. At the end of the game everyone could request a hand history and each person could then explain their thought process on a given hand along with an overall analysis of the play of a hand. The newbie would get a clear picture if he was ready for the big leagues or not and the team members would gain some more insight as well. It would be important not to make deals between members and I don't think they would as the money is not that big a deal for any of these guys.

Does anyone see where i was going with this or has this just been a colossal waste of time which has just about caused my lynching.

I think everyone in the forum could benefit from the discussion that would follow these games.

If someone wants to go pro, he needs to play cash, not SNGs.

BTW, two weeks ago we had a nice little cash game at 25nl 6max with zach, chuck, F Paulson, dj, feitr, jagsti and four dogs. This is supposed to turn into a hands up video one if these days. Should be fun to watch, as we all played crazy LAG.

Regardless of intentions, threads like this are always going to result in some degree of arguments/ego trips. For some forums this is appropriate(say clan forums for certain video games...aka lair of egos), but for some (aka here) it doesn't exactly do much good. In a small forum like CC, it probably isn't a very good idea to encourage elitism if you want regular members to actually contribute/feel welcome (ie. not feel like they are wasting their time).

As for the actual intention, i don't really see it working. First of all, most ppl who want to go pro will play cash, and sngs are a completely different ball game in terms of dynamics. Second, i can't really see you managing to get 9 ppl on at the same time to play ultra micro sngs, when they regularly play anywhere from 25nl-200nl. Third, one game doesn't really tell you anything about somebody's play (the hands up cash game is a good example). Fourth, the BEST indication of whether you are ready for the "big time" is your winrate over a long sample...plain and simple. No offense, but playing with some CC players in a SnG is going to tell you nothing about whether or not you are ready to turn pro or not.

This has sort of been experimented in some shape or other previously. The problem is, most of us don't really have the time to play, post, study and do these type of things.

We have shared msn/aim stuff and tried various posts to instigate some wide ranging theories, but it all seems to fall flat after a while.

I actually feel there is some merit in your suggestion, as there is a lot of skill and knowledge that has accumulated with the regular posters, that imo, we can all tap into. I just don't know how we can go about it tbh.

Also--have you considered 'Egon Towst'?? AND I think the reason for this whole thing IS an excellent idea! And for those of us not in their legue in not only would be fun to watch, extremley informative!

wat ??? you mean zach is not really a 37/24/1 maniac who 3bets 15% and will not ever fold to a flop cbet? Damn, I thought I had such valuable info on his game for the day i move up to his stakes...

Why is it whenever I make someone's list of good players, others always have to come in and take a big dump on it?


Anyways..... popularity contest or not, Thx for putting me in your Tops list Muckets.....

I doubt I really deserve it though......

This name calling and mudslinging is precisely why i would never join Peta, or any other group that used this tactic. You are no better than the person who berates others as idiots and morons when they suffer a badbeat. If you can not disagree without being diagreeable don't say anything. Simple fact is if you don't post in the hand analysis area or even in the poker general forum you don't make the list. Don't blame me or anyone else for your shortcomings.

I don`t know that that`s necessarily true. I believe there are a number of successful online pros who make their bread and butter by multitabling SNGs.


Thanks for the mention, Nick. They usually forget me when they do these lists.

I have no-one to blame but myself, though. I purposely use different screen names at different poker rooms to avoid attention. Can`t then complain if it works.

I agreeably disagree with this bolshevik attempt for elitism.


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