TJ Cloutier's selling his 2005 WSOP Bracelette

Poker News is reporting today (1-21-10) that TJ Cloutier has his 2005 WSOP Bracelette for sale on Ebay. I think it said starting bid was $2,999.

The article doesnt say why he is selling it. Is he having money trouble, Is it going to a charity, or is he doing it in protest of something?

If you have any input then let me know.

Since OP didnt put a link I will..

Here ya go

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2010/0...-a-po-7825.htm

^^^Yeah, that's the article I read but it still doesnt say why he's selling it.

Did a search on ebay tried several searches and did not find it. Has someone actually seen it for sale? Says auction ends on 24th. Maybe i will buy it it would go well with the autograph i have from him. Now i only need 3 grand to blow on it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220540764540

Thanks for the link added it to my watch list.

I dont really see the appeal in 'buying' a WSOP Bracelet. Unless you really like sparkly bling lol. Its something you need to win/earn.

Well if you take a look at the ebay page, it is from a pawn shop in Plano TX.

Looks to me like T.J. is having some money problems and pawned off a couple of his bracelets. So sad.

you could wear it to next years wsop and everyone would fear you

this is kind of sad because looks like he is having money problems. Sucks how bad the economy hit alot of people, even some well know pokerstars. Looks like nobody is safe

Word is he is a pretty big degen when it comes to craps.

I don't see the appeal to it unless you're a fan of TJ Cloutier. Lol, imagine what you'd say if someone asked you what you won if you were wearing it. Awkward. Lol.

Checked out the auction noticed he has another bracelet he is selling.

http://cgi.ebay.com/07-SCOTTY-NGUYEN...item335940edd7

Interesting thing i saw him at this years WSOP watching durring day 5. The guy is huge i got his autograph (no charge). The next day i saw him going full speed down the hall on his scooter.

He isn't selling them per the article I read today. It stated that they are now "owned" by a pawn shop, which is who as them listed on eBay (as jordanbillie stated)

The article that I read also stated that TJ is on the top 10 list of all time money cashes.... so if he is hurting for money, something bad happened or he needs a new accountant. Or... maybe he knows the guy who owns the pawn shop, or owns it himself and has a reason behind it. If anybody lives in the greater Dallas Forth Worth area go ask this pawn shop whats up!

Why would you sell something like that? When I win the WSOP ME I won't be selling it that's for sure.

Craps tables must not have been treating him too well :-/

^ FYP

Oh for sure, he's a notorious craps player. Who knows how much he's played and lost over the years.

...im not sure whats worse...the fact that he is selling his bracelets, or the fact that as of yet there have been no bids placed..i think if ivey or brunson sold a bracelt, it would be firecly soght after....
i thik if hellmuth sold his, id sell my house to buy it, cause id love to break it in front if him...just to see his reaction :-)

Hard to judge without some real intel... and nothing more than speculation is provided here.

Craps? Maybe. 'Any' gambling situation? Possible. Funding treatment of a serious medical condition not covered by a major medical care policy for him/family? Possible. None of the previous? Possible.

Well known players can't hide from media scrutiny forever. I'm sure we'll get some word in the future.

Interesting post -

Without more information I'd say he ran into some financial trouble - Nick pretty much covered his bases - possible gambling trouble, sure - but it's possible he had some excellent financial opportunity come up and couldn't get enough liquid funds to invest in it.

Say . . . his son (or friend, or friend's son) worked out the math and science and theories behind a time machine and needed another few grand to get his prototype together. (Or even him.) Then, he can go back in time and win as many bracelets as he wants - with the advance knowledge of how each hand will play out he'll make back ten thousand times his investment in the first year - and win a jillion bracelets in the mean time.

It's simple economics - BUILD A TIME MACHINE!

weather he's broke or still rich, it's a sad shame to sell a WSOP bracelette. U've gotta plug hours away and earn 'em, it's like selling a thropy!! If I ever won one of them bad boys I'd be burried with it on my wrist.

There no honor in that...you can't just buy one...you have to earn it

People have been know to give braceletes away to other people. Just wonder if he did.

agreed.
Unless perhaps you were big on some memorabilia collection or something.

current bid is $3,500 US... I guess someone wants it

it's simple he'd rather have 3k then own a bracelet.

He's a craps addict as well...maybe he crapped out one too many times.

I'll speculate he likes naked women. Lap dances will cost you a few dollars here or there. I bet he likes 2 or 3 at a time.

Most of these pro poker players are degenarate gamblers. Read Vikki Coren's A love affair with poker. Its scary. Guys win 100k and dont walk out the casino with it. Often its craps, roulette, horses, blackjack. All those guys have their vices.

T.J. is a craps monster. Many times playing hands at the Horseshoe in Tunica I've passed him leaning over the craps table. For some, the walk to the poker room is just too long and all the other games suck them in. T.J. is a gambler in the official bonafide sense.

Just some insight from what I've seen with my own eyes.

they all go broke even the very best of them thats whats so funny all gamblers go broke read greenstien they didnt build them casinos by giving money away 90% of poker players lose money 5% break even the other 5 blow the money somewhere else thats why they are selling books and anything else they can would you want most of them near your kids i dont think so

So 100% of players don't make any money playing righttttt. What the hell does any of that have to do with wanting them near kids. Some people are just stupid.

id buy it and wear it to my home game lol

TJ on drugs?

I ran into TJ stumbling around the slots at the Rio when I was leaving to catch my flight out in '06. I was shocked he wasn't at the craps table.

Yeah, it's possible there could be a number of reasons this is available through that pawn shop. We may even find out someday. But this isn't a complete shocker.