Tired of Online Donks

I am sick of the donkeys that play online poker.... you find donkeys in live poker as well, but not as many. Maybe the bad beats are just getting to me, but bad beats happen soooo much more often in online poker then live.

People will argue that it only seems that way because of the amount of hands you see online as opposed to live... this is true, but I think it is because you get 3 idiots to call your all in with nothing in one hand while online. When playing live poker 9/10 times there will only be one caller and you have better odds of avoiding that suck out that knocks you out.

This is true, online poker does seem to generate many more bad beats. And it is tough when the odds say that the better hand wins most of the time, but when there is more than one donkey in the hand, there are many more ways you can lose...

Another factor, a huge one, is the amount you're playing for. When you play live it is always much higher than the buy-ins on-line. Lower buy-ins means more donkeys.

I think you have to really look at what you are saying here. I understand your position, but do you hear what you are saying?

"I am tired of being surrounded by terrible players. I need to get into a game where the players are better so I can actually win some money."

Yes, I understand the frustration of bad beats and extra people in a hand that should have long ago folded. But you really need to exploit that problem instead of complaining about it. Therefore, that means your game needs to improve. I wish I had all the answers for you on doing that, but alas I do not.

But I do know this--your ability to control a pot with multiple palyers, and know when to lay down a hand needs to improve. Exploit the bad players. Sure, you're going to lose a coin flip, or even a heavy favored hand. But the desire to have better players at your table is a very silly concept that I hear all the time.

And when you figure out how to get their money, share it with me because I need help at it as well.

Cheers

jolubman,I agree with your post suggesting that low limit games do draw the donkeys. The problem is some of these donkeys have more money than brains and are still around for the $50 -$100 games too. Maybe this also goes on in the higher priced games as well, can't say for sure because that's really not where I venture into with online poker.

Guaranteed though, $10 and less will see at least one or more of them at the tables.The lower you go the more they seem to be.

I was playing in a live tournament yesterday, and a person at my table called three different all-ins with 8-7 off-suit. He made a straight to win the hand. Last Saturday at the same poker room, I pushed all-in with A-K on top of five limpers, and one of the limpers called with J-3 offsuit. (He didn't win.) If you're at a table anywhere, for any stakes, there's probably a donkey or two there.

I have noticed that I take bad beats a lot easier live then online. Anyone else have that experience?

Unfortunatley there are way too many donks playing online poker. I don't know if they're just not good, don't care or have the money to throw away. Big money tourneys are the best way to stay away from as many donks as possible!

this.....also go to any casino poker room at the lowest buyin and youll find bad players also..

I have to agree too, there are way too many donks(easy money) in online poker, but would not kick'em outta bed for eating crackers

can't live with them , cant live without them
a steady stream of donks is what keeps gambling of any kind alive
I just have to do something about the one that keeps losing my BR

I hate some of the call i see, whether it be while im in a hand or not. But I've came to understand that they mostly happen in free rolls and that attitude of 'nothing to lose' is taken. Its fair i suppose, and one can play any cards they like and lose their stack any way they want But we dont see it in cash games as much, or in buy in tourneys. I must admit ive been involved in hands i shouldnt have and sucked out too, so i guess its all part of poker, and all part of learning. Im getting better at putting the bad hands down now though..lol

completely sick of donkeys on Ultimatebet.com was at the final table last week in a freeroll and i raised with AA and some dude reraised me, so i call him in all and he turns over 92 of hearts WTF like??, i some how knew i was gona be beat. anyway i hit an ace on the flop but he gets runner runner to get flush. sometimes i think people are cheating calling hands like that.

In low limit games you get multiple callers and it is more likely that 1 will suckout. It is difficult to swallow some of the beats. I'm beginning to think it is impossible to win consistently at low limits online.

Hint: poker is about winning MONEY, not hands/pots.

I agree with you man. Live tournament, there are much less donkey because you don't want to embarrassed yourself, but online they cannot see you, so they make outrageous play.

I agree, a bunch of the people that play don't seem to know what they're doing, call with nothing and end up sucking out. It's frustrating when you are playing seriously.

As narizblanco also said, one donk is bad enough, but playing solid hands against multiple donks is a real pain. One will often suckout. That being said, remember what jaymfc said, it's the donks who keep the money flowing to the winners. Your poker winnings come from the mistakes made by other players. Since donks make more mistakes than good players, in theory the more donks the better. However, that also means more bad beats. But, over the LONG RUN, they will lose and good players will win., It's just a matter of gritting your teeth and avoiding going on tilt until the LONG RUN probabilities kick in. That's easier said than done, but the laws of probability dictate that it can't work any other way.

well of course there is more donks online. but 2 me i would rather play against the donks. u have a better chacne of winning cuz they will call your allin with anything most of the time

I made the same experience often enough.

Or maybe I'm just playing even worse than those donks.

mmmm

No I don't think so cause I'm still ITM, lol.

The proliferation of poker on TV has brought more donks into the game. These people see how some players play on TV and think it is skill. I sit with a table full of donks in my home games. It can be frustrating but with patience they can be overcome.

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I also have this idiot at work who keeps mailing me paychecks. If I could only get him to stop.

I am sick of the "All-in" all the time players. The ones that only know how to play a hand by either folding or going all in. In my opinion that's bad poker and they are "donks" 'cause all they trying to do is double up on an easy game. it's borring and terribly annoying. Good thing however is - these kind of players never stay around for long

You dont like playing with me?

I do

Edit: highjack imo !

If you like to play freerolls in addition to ring games donks are a part of it. I won a seat at UB,s weekly game off a freeroll game a couple of weeks ago and had a guy go all in the second hand. He had lost about half his chips the first hand. I had pock kings so I called him. Player after me went all in . i had to call again. The guy after me turned over 6 7 off. He made a boat. I couldn't believe it but it's part of freerolls.

I agree with vollycat. Ok people say I'm a donk because I call on suited 78 89 910 after the flop and I get an opened ended st or fl draw. I dont always do that just when i feel lucky. I mean i have been beaten so much by bad cards or players Its made me a loose player at times. well good luck with figureing out how to handles the donks.

I agree with Raines42. There is too much easy money at the tables. All these bad player keep boosting our overall profit and it just isn't fair.

We have to adjust our play slightly and endure some small term losses for a significantly greater ROI, and I just can't take it any more.

Yeah there seem to be a lot of them who try to just get lucky at first - if one is at your table just be patient let them make a ton of mistakes later on - tahts when you can get a lot of easy money off them........be patient -let them do their thing then shut them out....its easy to identify a donk and its even easieer to take them down

I hate winning it sucks yo.

lol move up to where they respect your raises? How about you jump into some 200nl FR. Trust me I WISH I had your problem. Oh no AA all-in and 3 callers, how will I ever win money????

donks will never go away, we hope.



It's probably because when you're live you can ask a person what they were thinking,why they played the hand the way they did...a lot more chatter and openness. Online, nobody talks. And when you finally type something into the chatbox you might sound pissed and that usually gets everybody else going. It's like the silent treatment, you wanna know, but your opponents won't give you anything. Almost torturous. And you can only assume.

I read an article comparing Hold Em players to Stud players (casino live play). The writer made an observation that, the Hold Em players were all silent, grumpy-like compared to the Stud players who were always talking and laughing. I guess there's too much thinking involved in HoldEm (more silent, lass talk, alot of thinking) to bother being friendly. Whereas in Stud you see your opponents cards and thinking isn't as imperative, time for more chatter, and friendliness I love playing Stud.

I agree freerolls do have alot of donkeys hoever even in higher buy in tourneys its often donkeys with money. same ears and tail. If it looks like a donkey,smells like a donkey and plays like a donkey. Its probably a donkey!

Oh yeah... I get pissed off and yell at things in my house when I get donked off... Maybe it's because you see the person face to face, kind of like the whol talking crap via blogs syndrome

There are definetely more donkeys online but sometimes you can build a huge stack of these geniuses