The "Tilt" threshold

I remember when I first started playing I used to complaint about bad beats... my concept of a bad beat was losing with A J against Q K or a very bad luck when I hit my A (and OF COURSE) go all in only to find out that the caller had made a set on the flop... However as i got on a depth study of the game I knew different. However, I am still very volatile on the bad beats sense. I am not a high roller, I still consider my self a rookie, and I struggle with some tilts. However, I have realized that my "tilt threshold" has become slimmer... I am completely capable of winning $50 in a couple of hours ( considering that I mostly play $0.05 - $0.10 NLH). But after I get A A cracked by AKo with a flush or KK cracked by a guy who called me with A 3 on a 5 4 9 flop and hits his A on the river) or KK cracked by QQ after we go all in on a 8 high flop, im really capable of soing stupid things... I want to be honest, I had NEVER cashed out of a poker site... I had lost tons of money on my big tilts... and I becoming kinda desperate... i would really like to know what is THAT that make me suffer so many bad beats. As I said, Im learning, Im a rookie but I study a lot to deserve better, I think my game has improved a lot, but Im still losing... If anyone could give me advice on how to take my game to the next level and in will be truly appreciatted. And how to increase my "tilt threshold"....

Thanks

It's as "easy" as this:

If you really are losing most of your money to bad beats, it means you're getting your money in as the favourite. You're a favourite in the situations you described above.

If you keep getting your money in as the favourite, eventually you'll end up ahead. Don't focus on the fact that you lost, focus on the fact that you got your money in good and you want to keep getting it in good. The results will follow in time if you keep doing that.

I was under the impression that you are not losing all your money to bad beats, but from suffering a bad beat then Freaking OUT and Donking away the rest of your money due to your tilt FROM the bad beat. In this case, Hang a sign from your monitor that you can see at all times that says DONT BE STUPID, and listen to it. If tilting is causeing you to lose that much money, then I'd say poker is not for you, cause bad beats happen, and if every time one happens, you cant control your anger to the point that you keep going broke, then there are deeper issues at hand my friend. CALM down.

Set limits... Once you lose a certain amount or win a certain amount per day then you quit. This will ensure that you do not streak too bad. If you're good you'll finish more days ahead than behind

I think this whole TILT issue is often a bit of a misnomer.

When I get a bad beat, or FT/PS delivers one of it's stupid action hands or miracle rivers that busts me, I don't suddenly change my game mechanics and quite honestly I doubt most people change either.

In other words, your starting hand requirements don't suddenly change to the point where you are happy to raise with Q3o in 1st pos !!! In fact I'd bet that you mostly just carry on playing your same game. However, those deals, and beats do leave you intensely frustrated and highly cynical of the whole "system" in my view.

My response to that is to stop depositing money. I know that I am not tilting. I know that I'm still playing the same opening hands, raising when I should, getting chips in when I have what appears to be the best hand and so on. But none of that is enough and contrary to the earlier posting above, it's absolutely no consolation to know that you are making the statistically right bets when FT/PS continues to screw you and give the winning hand to the underdog.

We are not playing to feed our egos through the knowledge that we are good poker players making the right moves !!! We're playing for fun and to make some money as a direct result of our poker skills. Playing good poker and yet continually suffering busts and beats from silly dealing is in my view quite a normal occurance on these sites. Some people appear to be able to learn something about how all that works and make a slow but steady profit. So far I haven't been able to do that and frankly I'm not inclined to bother because deep down I know it's not poker but some other "system" I am learning. I want to be good at poker itself, not good at cracking a controlled "system" designed to keep people at the tables.

So, tilting for me results in anger and frustration but hinestly I don't believe it make me alter my game play. It just makes me want to stop playing. Which I have done. I only play freerolls and play money now and even then my patience is waning because the same dealing occurs and I constantly think "what's the point?"

lol i thot i was the only one

Being on tilt is the hardest thing to get rid of when taking a bad beat. But that hand is over, and another one will begin. Playing good solid poker is key to being ahead when the year is up. And remember u have the rest of your life to play, that is alot of hands to play,lol making good desicions will help u in the long run.

Until you get rid of the whole "woe is me" attitude, you will never be able to lessen tilt. Everybody has bad beats, everybody runs awful at times, and everybody also runs real good at times. If you constantly focus on what is "owed" to you then you will always tilt. If you really believe you are just unlucky (and trust me, you are not), then it is best for you to quit poker.

IMO, tilt control is probably the biggest edge anybody can have in low/midstakes games.

Does it really matter if we lose the hand with a coin flip or as a 4/1 fav? To me it doesn't.... it used to, but not anymore. What is frustrating and really difficult to manage is you ability to cope with losing lots of coinflips, mixed in with coolers, mixed in with bad beats. If you play long enough you have to be prepared for +20k hand runs were this will happen. Seriously if your only playing a few tables and you have lost a few 4/1 shots over a couple of thousand hands, then your not really putting this into perspective. Practice good BRM, play lots of hands then decide whether your a winning player or you should take up another hobby. Learning to cope with tilt is a fundamental part of a poker players arsenal, seriously it's that important.

Sorry, but this really isn't good advice.

Poker is one big long game, and the long run doesn't care what you won or lost on any given day.

Leave a game because you're tired, because you know you're on tilt and you're playing bad, or because all the fish have left. Stay in a game because you know you're playing well, or because there's fish that you know will eventually give you a big chunk of their money.

Leaving a great game where you stand to make loads of money just because you hit your win ceiling for the day is silly. So is staying in a game because you haven't hit your loss floor yet, even though it seems inevitable that you will.

This approach doesn't even solve the streaks problem - you'll still have them, there'll still be times where you go weeks without booking any winning days. You'll just be stretching them out over a longer period.

If you win the first hand you play, keep playing. If you lose, quit for the day.
Also think this before you make any decision, live or online.
"Is this the best possible play here"
If it is, click the mouse, lean back, put your hands over your head and take a deep breath. your job is done. feel good because you have already won. thats all of poker

It all makes sense now... I'm not good at poker, I'm good at fake poker and exploiting the flawed algorithms.

Oh, and to anyone interested, the person who puts their money in bad always wins, so make sure to never get your money in good.

On a serious note, if you are so worried about these rigged cards being dealt on the river, don't go all in so early! If you really think you can beat these games, just wait until you have all the information to make your decisions.

Although I'd guess (people who can beat the level that they play) ∩ (people who think online poker is rigged) is very small.