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  Poker - STT step experiment
 
  #36  
11-08-2007, 2:49 AM
rob5775
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pigpen02
You are not going to get posts from people who try this three, four, five times with their latest $5 STTs and give up after decimating their bankroll. Only winners are going to say "this is the greatest thing since sliced bread."
You do realize this is a contest? You can read more about it here.

I don't believe anyone is advocating doing this as normal BR managment. That has been stated several times.
 

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  #37  
11-08-2007, 3:00 AM
stormswa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pigpen02
You are not going to get posts from people who try this three, four, five times with their latest $5 STTs and give up after decimating their bankroll. Only winners are going to say "this is the greatest thing since sliced bread."

how are you going to decimate your bankroll doing this? you normally play $5 STT right well that is what you are playing, any wins after your 1st $5 STT are not in your origional starting bankroll. Like Rob said this has nothing to do with bankroll managment but there is no way you are going to blow your bankroll doing this.
  #38  
11-08-2007, 7:48 PM
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does STT mean single table tournament and MTT mean multi table tournament? please reply
  #39  
11-08-2007, 7:59 PM
broncos53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by i win sometimes
does STT mean single table tournament and MTT mean multi table tournament? please reply
yes and this sounds like a great idea i have to try it out thanx storm ill reprt back!
  #40  
11-08-2007, 8:00 PM
Lo-Dog
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Quote:
Originally Posted by i win sometimes
does STT mean single table tournament and MTT mean multi table tournament? please reply

you are correct.

I'm playing a $5 right now for the hell of it, if I win off to a $10.
  #41  
11-08-2007, 8:29 PM
ChuckTs
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I'll be doing this sometime this weekend/next week, but right now I'm a little busy. Will post results when I get em.
  #42  
12-08-2007, 1:17 AM
jeffred1111
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Will do this tonight by commiting two initial buy-ins and stopping if the money gets too big (current wins > future wins in utility). As a BR potential boost and an experience builder, it is a nice plan. Results to come (with the hand that will be my demise too).
  #43  
12-08-2007, 7:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smd173
I'd be interested in seeing more results from a number of players. I remember when you started the cash game Rampage thread, some people had some success with it, but most didn't get very far. I'm happy to see JDK/less did well with it so far, but will others?
I'll be the first honest one:

All $5 buyins

1 2nd
2 5th
3 4th
4 4th
5 2nd
6 3rd
7 6th
8 2nd
9 6th
10 2nd
11 4th
12 7th
13 3rd

Variance is kicking my bum.

I've had my over-pair run into a bigger over pair 5 times in a row. I've lost every single coin flip. And had coolers like my 66 vs 44 and the flop comes 455. And my favorite one was when my top 2 pair got outdrawn by a flush draw. This last one my top pair ran into yet another overpair.

It's all good, it'll turn around. But I think I'll move back up to my $10 sng's for a bit
  #44  
13-08-2007, 12:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stormswa
I know people that played the step tourneys at party poker and made it to the final step. If people were not making it to last step there party poker would of stopped them.

You get a lot of experience at levels you may not be ready for with very little risk since you are using pure profit.
I'll give it one more try to explain my objection to your post.

1) Yes, people made it to the top of Party's steps because it was set up so there was a top to the pyramid. The base was LOTS of people who never made it past the first step. Whatever game was played was profit to Party because of the buy-in fees. Average Joe did NOT make it to the top.

2) "you are using pure profit." Average Joe needs that profit to make up for his losses. Average Joe is going to read your plan and say, "I can't lose, it is from pure profit!" He is going to enter nine $5 STT's to win one, go on to the $10 and lose. He is going to say, "All those other people (the winners who posted on your thread) did it, I must be doing something wrong. I will start at the $10 level to bypass those pesky $5 STTs." He will do that for a day, lose all his money, reload, lose all that money, reload with the rent, lose all that money, be kicked out on the street, lose his girlfriend, and have to bum around for quarters to buy food. Granted , there is little chance of that total scenerio, but as good a chance as making it 11 levels.

The plan, scheme, whatever, is OK for winners. As long as you realize it is NOT a foolproof plan to win at poker for anybody, you can do it anytime you want, start at any point, modify it at will to suit your own temperment and I wish you the best of luck.
  #45  
13-08-2007, 10:05 AM
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im sold

i like this. Ive completely switched from cash games to SnG's for the last 3 months and have doubled my BR in that time at $5 a go although im wary of moving up to the $10 just yet.
By doing this ill be able to sit at the $10 buy in with profits from an earlier SnG.
If i didnt move up until properley rolled for that level i may be a bit too tight and not play my normal game while i got the feel of it - this way i think id feel less pressure and have a better go at playing my A game.
Thanks Storm
  #46  
13-08-2007, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pigpen02
The plan, scheme, whatever, is OK for winners. As long as you realize it is NOT a foolproof plan to win at poker for anybody, you can do it anytime you want, start at any point, modify it at will to suit your own temperment and I wish you the best of luck.

I dont believe anyone ever said it was.
  #47  
15-08-2007, 4:17 AM
Wlokos
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This does sound pretty interesting, I might try this out sometime.
  #48  
18-08-2007, 5:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bw07507
Yes I see what u mean, I am definately going to be trying this out. I am pretty nicely rolled for 5.50 STTs with 150 dollars. I am always looking for interesting things to try as I get bored fairly easily just grinding out STTs and 10max all day.
If playing poker has anything to do with grinding out, then perhaps it is no longer a fun game and you should quit and find something that is.
  #49  
19-08-2007, 3:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pigpen02
If playing poker has anything to do with grinding out, then perhaps it is no longer a fun game and you should quit and find something that is.

poker is a grind for people that are actually building a bankroll. if you are just playing for fun that is fine but dont look down upon someone because they grind it out. Everyone has different reasons for playing and some dont play just for fun, you shouldnt make suggestions like this without knowing the player.
 

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