Sit and go hand, guess the buy-in !!!

Horrible, so guess the buy-in folks

PokerStars Game #4221190940: Tournament #20984497, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/03/08 - 19:46:51 (ET)
Table '20984497 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: uhgoo (1470 in chips)
Seat 2: haub (1340 in chips)
Seat 3: floppynutsuk (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: desperado71 (1590 in chips)
Seat 5: tenbob (1730 in chips)
Seat 6: docbob5 (2220 in chips)
Seat 7: dyingbreed (780 in chips)
Seat 8: gwunderkind (1450 in chips)
Seat 9: G_braa (1450 in chips)
desperado71: posts small blind 10
tenbob: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [9d Ac]
docbob5: folds
dyingbreed: folds
gwunderkind: calls 20
G_braa: folds
uhgoo: calls 20
haub: folds
floppynutsuk: folds
desperado71: calls 10
tenbob is connected
tenbob: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jd 5h Ad]
desperado71: checks
tenbob: bets 40
gwunderkind: folds
uhgoo: calls 40
desperado71: folds
*** TURN *** [Jd 5h Ad] Q♣
tenbob: bets 40
uhgoo: calls 40
*** RIVER *** [Jd 5h Ad Qc] 2♦
tenbob: bets 40
uhgoo: calls 40
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tenbob: shows [9d Ac] (a pair of Aces)
uhgoo: shows [As Ks] (a pair of Aces - King kicker)
uhgoo collected 320 from pot

I guess it was a 10 dollar buy in , lol , in the small buy in minis, players raise strong with the AK , so im not two sure . I dont think anyone would limp with AK, was this a free sit n go lol ?

Limpimg in with AK suited?!!!!!!!!! Is he crazy or just doesn't know how to play hold em? Granted, he won anyway but he could've gotten a lot more chips if he played it right.

The buy in must have been low but then again, early on in any sit and go. Some people would call with any pre flop raise. So to safe guard against the any 2 cards can win mentality this person choose to limp in instead of raising pre-flop cause someone with A,9 would have called his pre flop raise.

And then to call me down, not even a hint of a raise.

You got outplayed - get over it.

Half an hour later, OMG this table was a pushover

PokerStars Game #4221626190: Tournament #20984497, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/03/08 - 20:23:20 (ET)
Table '20984497 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: haub (1090 in chips)
Seat 3: floppynutsuk (1755 in chips)
Seat 4: desperado71 (1285 in chips)
Seat 5: tenbob (4465 in chips)
Seat 6: docbob5 (1450 in chips)
Seat 8: gwunderkind (1805 in chips)
Seat 9: G_braa (1650 in chips)
desperado71: posts small blind 75
tenbob: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [Th 5c]
docbob5: folds
gwunderkind: raises 150 to 300
G_braa: folds
haub: folds
floppynutsuk: folds
desperado71: folds
tenbob: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [7d 7s Qh]
tenbob: checks
gwunderkind: bets 150
tenbob: raises 450 to 600
gwunderkind: folds
tenbob collected 975 from pot
tenbob: doesn't show hand

Having fun it seems TB!

Gotta be low but you just dont know in todays world

a lot of people think limping with a/paint or aa/kk is an advanced move.

Limping with AKs in the above example is fine, at least spike the pot on the turn or river though.

I just think it is funny as hell that your first hand history there is a message in there that says tenbob is reconnected. You have more trouble with that than anyone on here.

I don't think the limping in with A-K suited is that much of a problem. We are supposed to mix up our starting playy hands right? I don't do it myself, but it sure is a nice change if it were done. Limping here is crazy, but noone would ever put him on that hand. (Now tenbob will). His post flop play is horrible. This guy is either very bad at the game or tighter than panty hose. Why he never raised I can't figure out. Flop and turn here is a must raise. River brought another Diamond so maybe thats why the call there. But Flop and turn?? Donk!!

Could be anything from $1 to $50 - you get calling stations hanging around at practically any level.

Im guessing its not a lower range buy-in or why the question (or double bluff?)

IanT

I'm guessing a lower level myself, just some tight early play ( really tight it seems).

We've all played AK both ways, and with advantages to both. Perhaps everyone there has had their head cracked enough with big slick by pocket 5's to test the waters before jumping in.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess $50. Super tight players, no all-ins pre-flop and no bluff all-in after the re-raise (the "take that!" syndrome, I call it). I'm guessing the guy w/ the AK had never played at a $50 table, and was a bit timid as to how to play his hand (fearing he was way out of his league).

However, TB, I do think you could have played that better. Your first bet of half the pot was ok, but how about taking pot-size into account for the later bets? Although you probably wouldn't have scared this guy off (but judging from his timidness, maybe a bigger bet would have), so I guess you got out a little cheaper the way you played it.

Fair enough comment, the initial bet was simlply a feeler bet, he wasnt calling without an Ace or two diamonds and i wanted to see where i stood, so now i know he has one or the other. Mediocre ace early on, i kinda wanted to know where i was at in the hand without losing too many chips. Probably a bigger river bet would have gotten him off the hand.

I would say around about the 10$ buy in simply because they do things rather strangely. some hands they play well but others they play terribly

So what the hell is the awnser?

I just posted this thread to outline the poor quality of play at some of the higher sit and go's. The table was full of some of the weakest players ive ever come across online. The buy-in was $20 and yes, i took it down.

I have limped on from time to time with AK. But, you gotta be careful. You gotta make sure and keep on your toes and be ready to fold. The other people could have anything.

right as usual

Did you miss the fact that their was a flush draw on the board and that the 3rd diamond hit on the river. The fact that it was early in the Sit N Go, and the bb check and is now betting out, I don't think the call down is that terrible.

If he had check down AA or something I could see you scratching your head. But you guys are freaking out as if AKs is some kind of super hand. Just cause he hit the Ace on the flop doesn't mean you don't have AJ and hit 2 pair.

lol

- There's a flush draw there, all the more reason to raise and charge anyone to hit it.

- The fact it was early in the SnG means the blinds were low and he could quite easily get away from his hand if, say, he was reraised on the flop.

- Guess what the best way of finding out if another player has AJ? It's called raising, try it sometime.

Really, being a weak-tight calling station is the equivalent of going on a long trip to nowhere in the poker world. What if you had top set but three hearts flopped? Are you gonna call down then because "someone might have a flush"? Are you gonna call down with 77 on a 27K board because "someone might have KK"? Are you really gonna wait until you have the nuts before even thinking of raising?

No, I don't believe you have to have the nuts before you raise.

I'd really like to see if tenbob still has the hand history for how this guy busted out. Cause if you notice in the 2nd history (half hour later/7 left) the weak-tight guy was gone.

PokerStars Game #4221374833: Tournament #20984497, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/03/08 - 20:02:31 (ET)
Table '20984497 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: uhgoo (1080 in chips)
Seat 2: haub (1040 in chips)
Seat 3: floppynutsuk (1455 in chips)
Seat 4: desperado71 (1190 in chips)
Seat 5: tenbob (1195 in chips)
Seat 6: docbob5 (3760 in chips)
Seat 7: dyingbreed (785 in chips)
Seat 8: gwunderkind (1115 in chips)
Seat 9: G_braa (1880 in chips)
haub: posts small blind 25
floppynutsuk: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tenbob [9s 3s]
desperado71: folds
tenbob: folds
docbob5: calls 50
dyingbreed: folds
gwunderkind: calls 50
G_braa: folds
uhgoo: raises 1030 to 1080 and is all-in
haub: folds
floppynutsuk: calls 1030
docbob5: folds
gwunderkind: folds
*** FLOP *** [5s 6h 4h]
*** TURN *** [5s 6h 4h] 6♦
*** RIVER *** [5s 6h 4h 6d] 3♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
floppynutsuk: shows [Jc Js] (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
uhgoo: shows [Kc Ac] (a pair of Sixes)
floppynutsuk collected 2285 from pot

Thanks tenbob. Well looks like he overplayed his AKs that time. And it cost him his tourney. I know you wouldn't advocate playing AKs this way either Dorkus, and I wouldn't either, but very interesting nonetheless.

Tenbob, signed up for a $20 shorthanded buyin this AM. I usually play $10 shorthanded buyins but have finished out of the money a couple ina a row & thought maybe I was getting complacent so jumped up a level for a game. 3rd hand I am BB dealt A6o so check, flop comes A,10,3 rainbow,small blind checks I bet 60, dealer calls, smallblind raises to 240, I fold, my bet asked a question, I got an answer, I got out, no big deal. Guy to my left types in smart bet Ken, lol, dealer types in lol. I respond ty, while thinking that I have landed among fools. I was right. It took me about 20 minutes to win the game. I thought the guy who finished 2nd played a solid game but other than him the rest had no clue. I am staying at $10 level but will have to check this level out again.

smd173, I agree with you. I think everyone/anyone can make a bonehead call, especially in the middle of the night tourney's. Ya know those not quite tired but not really awake and alert either.=-)