SICK CALL AND SICK LAYDOWN

Sorry for bragging about this on this forum but I just had to let it out. Can't keep it to myself of how proud I am of making great decisions.

I had pocket 4s, hit a set on the flop, slow-played it but got myself into trouble. But when I was faced with an all-in bet, I instant-called because I said to myself "U f--king kidding with me? First, u pretend u have top pair, and now, you pretend you have flush? I don't trust yo ass" and called instantly and won.



Here's the result



Everybody was talking about it saying WOW, SICK CALL while the guy who lost a big pot kept saying I made horrible call. And then next thing I know, I get pocket Queens. The guy who lost big pot to me just kept going all-in every hand and kept doubling up. And then later, one of the guys who never played a pot reraised on top of my someone's raise and he was big stack. The maniac who lost big pot to me went all-in. I was telling myself, "ok, i know this maniac is just being piece of s--t but I'm worried about what this guy can have. f--k it. i don't wanna even coin-flip this thing. i'm folding this. I'll let them go heads-up and let them dog-fight. i'm folding my queens"



And then here's the result



I was just killing this table and reading everyone like a book. I felt like a genius during this time when i laid those queens down.

Sorry for being a cocky bastard but I'm just full of myself at the moment that i had to take screenshots of these and boast myself about it on cardschat.

very nice play.

When you are able to read those things it just feels great. gj

thepit89 said:

very nice play.

When you are able to read those things it just feels great. gj

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Thank you. This is one of best laydowns I've ever made in my life. I've laid down Queens before but this was one of best times to lay queens. I laid down QUeens in casino too but that was only because I was a chicken. It was my first time playing 5/10 and there were 3 people go all-in in front of me. I didn't want to risk 500 dollars and make laydown. I layed it down because I was scared but it was good laydown because other person had Aces. But the table I just played right now, I made a laydown because I read the reraise as AK AA or KK and didn't want to even coin-flip. My reads were very proper and I'm glad I was right. Makes me feel like I was god at the table who can read their cards like a book.

Good fold in hindsight, but not as obvious as you make out imo, if the bigger stacked tight guy is a good player he'll see that the idiots been throwing his chips around and may very well make a big 3 bet with anything from TT-AA,AJ-AK, which in his eyes is plenty to get HU with the donk with. Your equity against this range with QQ is 58%, would you have called with AKs??

I know the hand history isn't up there but i get the feeling you murdered the 4's hand from start to finish lol I don't think it was a great call on the river tbh, he puts in a pot size shove on the river which is exactly what you want to be doing when you have the ace or king here b/c it gives good odds to villains that have usually put in a large portion of their stack, it ensures that people with lower flushes......... get their money in and you take it down, what really shoves here that you beat??? He's either beating you, which is the outcome with the greatest possibility, or he's got air, very rarely imo. You made the call and got lucky that you caught him the 10% of the time that he's bluffing here i think.

NEVER slow play at 2-10nl imo if you do your usually missing out on a full three streets of value against most opponents who will pay you off light as shit!

If the villain is pushing around so much it would be fair to say that his range is something like, 55+,A8s+,KQs,A8o+,KQo, the tight guy could conceivably have a range something like, TT+,AJs+,AJo+, put that into pokerstove and you 'could' have like 47% equity against those two players.

Imo your perceived equity in the 4's hand has got to be miniscule in comparison but you didnt make the fold there

Plus, you make an all in raise there and you could even fold out the tight guy which gives you a huge 67% equity against donkboys range, which could even be a lot looser than i put in!

not many people can fold QQ pre-flop,nice fold and nice read.

It is amaizing how good a feeling is when u make a good fold like that,dont get much beter.

Lazmansa

Std poker things...
It's ok but not impressive...If he had a 2s here you would have made a horrible mistake...
Did you also win some pots, you can't win by good laydowns...LOL...

orangepeeleo said:

Good fold in hindsight, but not as obvious as you make out imo, if the bigger stacked tight guy is a good player he'll see that the idiots been throwing his chips around and may very well make a big 3 bet with anything from TT-AA,AJ-AK, which in his eyes is plenty to get HU with the donk with. Your equity against this range with QQ is 58%, would you have called with AKs??

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What happened was, when I had a queen, I smooth-called utg's min raise because I was plannning to squeeze play and trap other people to get some dead money since I knew that maniac was gonna go all-in. But when there was a reraise in front of me from a tight-aggressive big stack player, I told myself "ok, he's got to have AK, KK or AA at this point. he knows that maniac is gonna move all-in but yet, he reraises in front."*re-raise from big-stack looked like he's planning to go heads-up with that maniac*"I don't want to even coin-flip this thing. I'll let them take my measly 20 cents and step aside, let them dogfight.

If i folded QQ, I would definitely fold AKs. I NEVER call with AKs in 3-handed way or more if there's two all-in bets in front of me unless they're short-stacked. I only play pre-flop all-in with AKs in heads-up only.

JustRaiseTheBlinds said:

Std poker things...
It's ok but not impressive...If he had a 2s here you would have made a horrible mistake...
Did you also win some pots, you can't win by good laydowns...LOL...

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What a lame remark. A big pot not lost is as good as a big pot won. Sometimes it's not the hands you play but the hands you get away from.

Good Read and good play

nc_royals said:

What a lame remark. A big pot not lost is as good as a big pot won. Sometimes it's not the hands you play but the hands you get away from.

Good Read and good play

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The read in the first hand with trips 4 is good. But mainly its not the good action to take here. A lot of times he will have a spade to beat you.

Grindit9 said:

The read in the first hand with trips 4 is good. But mainly its not the good action to take here. A lot of times he will have a spade to beat you.

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Lol it was a club not a spade.. And good reads OP

JustRaiseTheBlinds said:

Did you also win some pots, you can't win by good laydowns...LOL...

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Wrong. Good Fold is just as important as a win. Although I got this from a movie, Lucky You, it's a fact. When Huck Cheever(Eric Bana) lays down his set against woman's straight that she rivered, he teaches his girlfriend Billie(Drew Berrymore) "A good fold is as important as a win, sometimes more important"

I did win a huge pot by not laying down 4 high flush.

pokerchild69 said:

Lol it was a club not a spade.. And good reads OP

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LOL i always mix up spades and clubs, dont know why maybe because english is not my first language.

very good read's with ur 4's and QQ. Well played!!!

A good fold is very important bcos if u were to donk of ur chips by not folding uve lost money and now r chasing. Where as if u did fold u havnt lost any money and are ready for the next hand.

Wow, very nice plays I bet the donk was pissed when you called with that.

Implied Odds3 said:

Wow, very nice plays I bet the donk was pissed when you called with that.

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Thank you. And yes, he was very pissed. He pushed all-in every hand and got lucky 7-8 hands in a row as you can see on left column of the screen, he won lot of pots after he lost big pot to me. He was extremely mad and kept barking at my call. I just put my avatar on happy froggy avatar with big teeth and ignored him. After laying down queens and round was over, I told the table that I folded pocket queens pre-flop. They were being skeptic and didn't believe me. That's why I said "i'm not bullsh1tting around. give me ur email and i'll prove it." that's why i took screenshots of these. Some people wouldn't fold pocket 4s in my situation because they don't know how to fold a hand. But I clearly proved that I didn't fold because I knew I was winning. I can fold hands as I proved that I folded pocket queens pre-flop.

I had probably folded the 4's.
Even if he did bet and tried to act as if he had top pair, you still would have no idea if he was actually holding a club or not.

There was 2 clubs on the flop, so he could have easely pretended to bet for his flushdraw. No idea what he did on the turn, but if he betted I would probably have folded (depending on the ammount). If he checked i'd bet to see if he'd call or reraise.

The river would really make me think throughout the entire hand again.
If he raised before you, and you called he would could be holding K or A of clubs.
If he would have betted on the river & turn, you should have folded. regardless if you think he just had top pair. He could easely be holding a flush A or K high and be slowplaying it.

All he needed was any card higher then your 4 of clubs and he'd take the pot.
You didn't know you were winning, you only had intuition saying you were.

I'm not saying it wasn't a great call. I'm saying it was a call with a lucky outcome. flushdraw & straightdraw on the river should really make you rethink the action that happend on a hand before calling a set.

Here's one for ya from last night. Raised 4xbb with 3 calls then comes the flop. What I heard in my head was that line from Monty Python and The Holy Grail...Run Awayyyy.

DawgBones said:

Here's one for ya from last night. Raised 4xbb with 3 calls then comes the flop. What I heard in my head was that line from Monty Python and The Holy Grail...Run Awayyyy.

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Was so quick to run away forgot the screenie

good play with good results in the end that is what matters

DawgBones said:

Was so quick to run away forgot the screenie

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I wish i had donkeys like the guy with mid pair going all in against me when i'm holding a set.

wow...
u won and gave it bak hahaha
very unluky 2nd time but kk had u so i guess its the same if u lost to kk..
gl later on

nice played hands, also good laydown. sometimes when have good read on someone this is default situations

Tonky666 said:

wow...
u won and gave it bak hahaha
very unluky 2nd time but kk had u so i guess its the same if u lost to kk..
gl later on

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gave it bak? i folded queens pre-flop and only lost 20 cents while winning over 8 dollars from my opponent on the hand where I called with 4 high flush.