Set over set over set, what are the odds?

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  #1
13th June 2009, 4:55 AM
JulieK
 
Set over set over set, what are the odds?

I lost today when three people completed sets on the flop. In a 9-seat game, what are the odds that three people will flop different sets?
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  #2
13th June 2009, 4:57 AM
PattyR
 
Poker at: full tilt
Game: hold em
i dunno...but it happened to me too.

i had 88...other players had 99 and JJ......flop was 8 9 J....luckily i got out the way
  #3
13th June 2009, 8:10 PM
JulieK
 
I figure the odds have to be very high, and I could take some solace from being witness to such a rare event. I wish one of the odds gurus here would calculate it.
  #4
13th June 2009, 8:24 PM
Snowmobiler
 
Poker at: FT,Bodog
Game: Holdem
I have played alot of poker and have never seen it,extremely rare



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  #5
13th June 2009, 10:35 PM
AtiFCOD
 
I havent seen it so far. It was very good for the biggest set owner, I guess he won all the chips of the other 2 players. This is poker.
  #6
13th June 2009, 10:37 PM
jamesdenson
 
Poker at: fulltilt
Game: holdem
i have never seen it but was it on ultimate bet
  #7
13th June 2009, 10:52 PM
Chronical23
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
re: Set over set over set, what are the odds? poker

that is very very rare. and if you lose in that situation thats just bad luck try not to go on tilt because of it.
  #8
13th June 2009, 10:53 PM
jamesdenson
 
Poker at: fulltilt
Game: holdem
that would have to be rarer than a royal flush and the odds on that are about 31.000 to 1 i think
  #9
14th June 2009, 1:38 AM
PattyR
 
Online Poker at: full tilt
Game: hold em
well i know the odds of flopping a set is 1/8.....and i believe the odds of 2 players flopping a set is like 1/100.....so i cant really imagine the odds of 3 people hitting
  #10
14th June 2009, 3:51 AM
crow27
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: NL
I've seen it twice in 3 yrs. Victim once and spectator the other time. still weird though
  #11
14th June 2009, 4:05 AM
smerald
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: holdem
depends what site it was on..

if FTP, then very high lol
  #12
14th June 2009, 4:44 AM
TPC
 
Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
I've seen it one, I had JJ vs 44 vs 77. Flop came J47, I was SB check guy in MP goes all in, button calls. I had the button covered and was like WTF, we all can't have sets. So I push all in, button calls and sure enough we all had sets. Only time I've ever seen it.

The odds of floping a set are not 1/8 it's 1/17 I believe.
  #13
14th June 2009, 5:50 AM
cardplayer52
 
Online Poker at: full tilt
Game: holdem
ok my math could be off but i think i'm right. if you start w/3 different pairs preflop. the odds of all 3 hitting a set on the flop would be 2/46 x 2/45 x 2/44 = .0000878 too express that as odds you multiply by 100 then divide 100 by the result. which works out to be 11,390 to 1. but i looked at a chart of 1000 hands dealt to 10 players and it said 3+ pair were dealt 1.49%(this was 10handed but it also didnt say diferent pairs) of the time. using that number i figure it to be 764,430 to 1.
  #14
14th June 2009, 10:38 AM
JulieK
 
re: Set over set over set, what are the odds? poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesdenson
i have never seen it but was it on ultimate bet
It was on Bodog.
  #15
14th June 2009, 5:27 PM
PattyR
 
Online Poker at: full tilt
Game: hold em
Quote:
Originally Posted by TriggaLos
I've seen it one, I had JJ vs 44 vs 77. Flop came J47, I was SB check guy in MP goes all in, button calls. I had the button covered and was like WTF, we all can't have sets. So I push all in, button calls and sure enough we all had sets. Only time I've ever seen it.

The odds of floping a set are not 1/8 it's 1/17 I believe.
odds of flopping a set are 1/8 i thought....or maybe thats the odds of hitting a set on either flop turn or river...i dunno...i was reading phil gordons little green book and it says it in there...ill look it up again and let you know for sure
  #16
14th June 2009, 8:11 PM
cardplayer52
 
Poker at: full tilt
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by PattyR
odds of flopping a set are 1/8 i thought....or maybe thats the odds of hitting a set on either flop turn or river...i dunno...i was reading phil gordons little green book and it says it in there...ill look it up again and let you know for sure
the odds of being dealt a pocket pair is 16 to 1 or 1/17. the odds of floping a set if you hold a pocket pair is 7.5 to 1 or 1/8.5.
  #17
14th June 2009, 11:34 PM
p215j
 
Game: holdem
This sort of happen to me live @ Ceasars Atlantic City cash game $2-5.

I lost $375. with AA on 7 high board by set of 7s. Very next hand I raised pf with 10s got 2 callers, flop comes 256 rainbow, make continuation bet 1st player cold calls, 2nd raises, i flat, 1st moves all-in, 2nd moves all-in as well, i think for 3 mins then call.

1st 55, 2nd 66 turn call another 10. I take down a huge set, over set, over set pot.

Crazy game.
  #18
15th June 2009, 1:39 AM
RISKY 101
 
Poker at: full tilt
Game: hold em
dont know the odds but it sure is rare ive only seen it once and ive played maybe half a million hands
  #19
15th June 2009, 3:14 AM
Infamous1020
 
Online Poker at: Stars/FTP
Game: Hold'em/PLO
i had this happen at stars.

I had 88, other guy had 77 other guy had 66.

Flop comes KA6 turn 7 river 8. it was sickkk
  #20
15th June 2009, 3:14 AM
Emperor IX
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: Hold 'em
odds of a set on the flop are 7.5:1

Probability of a royal flush is 1 in 649,740

someoen else can do set/set/set, I just wanted to set those straight because I saw some weird numbers in this thread
  #21
15th June 2009, 4:30 AM
teabagger357
 
re: Set over set over set, what are the odds? poker

Just wait till you get over quads, I lost almost $800 I had pocket 10's and the flop came 10 10 K so we got in raising match the turn was another K raise match the pot was know about 1400 I thought for sure I had it the rive was like a 6 so I went all in and he rolled over pocket kings I was stunned , That was most of my bankroll.
  #22
15th June 2009, 11:30 AM
ScorpionMK
 
Poker at: bodog
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by teabagger357
Just wait till you get over quads, I lost almost $800 I had pocket 10's and the flop came 10 10 K so we got in raising match the turn was another K raise match the pot was know about 1400 I thought for sure I had it the rive was like a 6 so I went all in and he rolled over pocket kings I was stunned , That was most of my bankroll.
You know in Hard Rock casino ... you would be celebrating because you would get something like !$200 000 -$300 000 bad beat jackpot. Last time i was there it was like 500k .If your Quads or better get beat you get half of the jackpot and the rest of the table gets to split the other half. You have to have a pair in your hand and i believe Quads have to be higher than 4's or 5's ..something like that. I thought it was pretty cool!
  #23
15th June 2009, 11:42 AM
TPC
 
Online Poker at: Full Tilt
Game: Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScorpionMK
You know in Hard Rock casino ... you would be celebrating because you would get something like !$200 000 -$300 000 bad beat jackpot. Last time i was there it was like 500k .If your Quads or better get beat you get half of the jackpot and the rest of the table gets to split the other half. You have to have a pair in your hand and i believe Quads have to be higher than 4's or 5's ..something like that. I thought it was pretty cool!

Lots of places have Bad beat Jackpots. what's that have to do with set over set?
  #24
15th June 2009, 12:26 PM
nevadanick
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: stud
If it's a possible combination, then it certainly 'can' and 'does' happen. In this case, certainly one of the more rare happenings.

Can't recall ever seeing one, and don't think I would care to. What are the odds that 'I' would have the bottom set. HMmmm ... that wouldn't be so bad I guess if I could hit my quads on the river.

One step further, what are the odds that 2 of the sets could be quads by showdown, and which sets would they be? Bottom? Middle? Top? ...
  #25
15th June 2009, 12:30 PM
josh_dei8
 
Online Poker at: full tilt
Game: holdem
I am sure it is rare on most sites, unles you play of FT, it probably happens daily.
  #26
15th June 2009, 12:31 PM
GL (G-man)
 
Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by teabagger357
Just wait till you get over quads, I lost almost $800 I had pocket 10's and the flop came 10 10 K so we got in raising match the turn was another K raise match the pot was know about 1400 I thought for sure I had it the rive was like a 6 so I went all in and he rolled over pocket kings I was stunned , That was most of my bankroll.
Bankroll management??? .........
  #27
15th June 2009, 12:44 PM
nevadanick
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: stud
Quote:
Originally Posted by GL (G-man)
Bankroll management??? .........
^ ^ ^ this ... exactly !!!! What would any good player be doing with "most of their BR" in play on one table ??? 'doh

Lesson learned ???
  #28
15th June 2009, 2:52 PM
woody19
 
Poker at: ft/ps
Game: holdem
re: Set over set over set, what are the odds? poker

very rare i havent seen set over set over set fo atleast 6 months it happens once and a whie just like the royal
  #29
15th June 2009, 2:58 PM
cardplayer52
 
Online Poker at: full tilt
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by nevadanick
One step further, what are the odds that 2 of the sets could be quads by showdown, and which sets would they be? Bottom? Middle? Top? ...
if your saying there is already 3 sets on the flop. then the odds of 2 quad over quads at showdown is 519 to 1. its too funny but i was going to add this to my previous post as i knew the question was coming.

---its too early for me to do math. but i figure we know 9 cards after the flop. 40(unknown)/3(outs to fill quads) X 42(unknown after turn)/2(outs to fill quads). so the odds of quads over quads after the flop is 519 to 1 or 1/520.(i think). as far as which would be which the bottom set will never be top quads. these are the same odds a some one that needs a runner runner set. reminds me of a bad beat i took before i had AQ vs AJ on a Q high rainbow board. got all in they got running J's to hit there set and ko me out of a tourney 3 from the money. maybe 3 years ago still the worst beat ive taken.

Last edited by cardplayer52 : 15th June 2009 at 3:24 PM.
  #30
15th June 2009, 3:14 PM
damon789
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: holdem
Oh the Pain

Quote:
Originally Posted by teabagger357
Just wait till you get over quads, I lost almost $800 I had pocket 10's and the flop came 10 10 K so we got in raising match the turn was another K raise match the pot was know about 1400 I thought for sure I had it the rive was like a 6 so I went all in and he rolled over pocket kings I was stunned , That was most of my bankroll.
I feel ya, I flopped quad tens guy runner runnered Js to hit higher quads lol lucky it was only micro $7 pot i think pretty sick.
  #31
15th June 2009, 3:35 PM
cardplayer52
 
Online Poker at: full tilt
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by damon789
I feel ya, I flopped quad tens guy runner runnered Js to hit higher quads lol lucky it was only micro $7 pot i think pretty sick.

989 to 1 to "catch perfect".
  #32
16th June 2009, 1:09 AM
teabagger357
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScorpionMK
You know in Hard Rock casino ... you would be celebrating because you would get something like !$200 000 -$300 000 bad beat jackpot. Last time i was there it was like 500k .If your Quads or better get beat you get half of the jackpot and the rest of the table gets to split the other half. You have to have a pair in your hand and i believe Quads have to be higher than 4's or 5's ..something like that. I thought it was pretty cool!
Yeah it was Poker stars no bad beat there. this was also about five years ago to. I don't think there where to many bad beat jackpots then.
  #33
16th June 2009, 5:16 AM
jrinthelc
 
Online Poker at: Pokerstars.c
Game: Holdem
I saw a friend of mine lose a hand at the Bellagio straight flush over straight flush. Both hands flopped with one played on the big blind and the next player under the gun. what are the odds on that?
  #34
4th August 2009, 10:37 AM
cardplayer52
 
Poker at: full tilt
Game: holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by cardplayer52
if your saying there is already 3 sets on the flop. then the odds of 2 quad over quads at showdown is 519 to 1. its too funny but i was going to add this to my previous post as i knew the question was coming.

---its too early for me to do math. but i figure we know 9 cards after the flop. 40(unknown)/3(outs to fill quads) X 42(unknown after turn)/2(outs to fill quads). so the odds of quads over quads after the flop is 519 to 1 or 1/520.(i think). as far as which would be which the bottom set will never be top quads. these are the same odds a some one that needs a runner runner set. reminds me of a bad beat i took before i had AQ vs AJ on a Q high rainbow board. got all in they got running J's to hit there set and ko me out of a tourney 3 from the money. maybe 3 years ago still the worst beat ive taken.
i accually know the real answer. the odds of 3 pairs dealt if nine players are in the hnd is .012 or 1.2%. but my math was off. its 6/46 x 4/45 x 2/44 which is 45540 / .012 = 3,795,000. so the odds are 3,794,999 to 1 of set over set over set.
  #35
4th August 2009, 3:41 PM
Ernster86
 
Online Poker at: Poker Stars
Game: Razz
re: Set over set over set, what are the odds? poker

Yep it sucks, happened to me today. I had set of 3's VS set of 10's. Hard to not lose your money when the board doesnt look dangerous.
 



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