Running the clock?

I'm in a rebuy tourney and past the first hour, i've got about 9k in chips but average is at 15k, 1500 ppl left money starts at 540, should i run the clock in order to have other tables kill eachother of or should I not.
I'm really just card dead and can't figure out which route to take any feed back is most welcome ty

I just double up i'm still below average but close enough 14.5k

Save the clock til you are almost in the money. 540 pay i would wait til there are no more than 640 left and then work the clock if i had to.

Fairenough, I was actually thinking of starting it now, but only makes sense since, there are still many ppl to go I might as well play untill then
thx for the feed back

No offense but I hate people who "run the clock" so they can try to cash. If its not ur day its not ur day no need to make everyone wait 20 seconds each hand each decision you are faced with........I mean are you that bad a player that you cant just try to win the tournament rather than just playing to cash?

actually running the clock at the right time is a very smart move...if you were short to mid stacked why not, I've seen many good players do it, and I cant hate the good play

Check the house rules for whatever site you are playing.

Some poker rooms regard intentionally delaying the game as a rule infringement, and you could have problems if opponents get annoyed and complain to support.

I actualy did this a few nights ago in a MTT when whe where 30places from the money and i had half a BB after losing AKvsAA,i was on the button and stalled every hand untill i was in the BB next and the guy who had AA in the hand actualy helped me stall and i maked it ITM.
At the right time its a smart move but i usualy dont do it and defenetly not 1000 places from the money.

I suppose, but it does get very frustrating for the rest of us that are not short to mid stacked.........

Is it really fair to say that this person is a bad player, I mean there were many reasons why I was short in the tourney, lack of cards, lack of flops, lack of ppl respecting my raise (I know rebuy right ), but to say I'm a bad player or not good enough to take it down right would be like me telling you to take a golf ball and um get a hole in one from 400feet away while you have 2 bad arms, I hope that makes any sense at all, yes your right it's a pain in the ass, but I mean I didn't buy into to throw money away did I?

Just wanted to give everyone an update, i'm at 45k with 819 left
all thx to this hand.

PokerStars Game #20795858496: Tournament #110965727, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2008/09/29 16:52:18 ET
Table '110965727 352' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: branchoa (22903 in chips)
Seat 2: doolak04 (37180 in chips)
Seat 3: finnie88 (22728 in chips)
Seat 4: Dogday (17810 in chips)
Seat 5: kawasale (7996 in chips)
Seat 6: mar121284 (43422 in chips)
Seat 7: abdi122 (16345 in chips)
Seat 8: GPthedonkey (16955 in chips)
Seat 9: Dagoepampan (42484 in chips)
branchoa: posts the ante 50
doolak04: posts the ante 50
finnie88: posts the ante 50
Dogday: posts the ante 50
kawasale: posts the ante 50
mar121284: posts the ante 50
abdi122: posts the ante 50
GPthedonkey: posts the ante 50
Dagoepampan: posts the ante 50
doolak04: posts small blind 300
finnie88: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to abdi122 [6h 6s]
Dogday: folds
kawasale: folds
mar121284: raises 1200 to 1800
abdi122: calls 1800
GPthedonkey: folds
Dagoepampan: folds
finnie88 is connected
branchoa: calls 1800
doolak04: folds
finnie88: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc 7h 6c]
mar121284: bets 1800
abdi122: calls 1800
branchoa: raises 2400 to 4200
mar121284: calls 2400
abdi122: raises 10295 to 14495 and is all-in
branchoa: folds
mar121284: calls 10295
*** TURN *** [Jc 7h 6c] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 7h 6c Ts] 6♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mar121284: shows [Jd Ac] (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
abdi122: shows [6h 6s] (four of a kind, Sixes)
abdi122 collected 39940 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 39940 | Rake 0
Board [Jc 7h 6c Ts 6d]
Seat 1: branchoa (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: doolak04 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: finnie88 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Dogday folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kawasale folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mar121284 showed [Jd Ac] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 7: abdi122 showed [6h 6s] and won (39940) with four of a kind, Sixes
Seat 8: GPthedonkey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Dagoepampan folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Just updating all, currently 605 ppl left, and I'm at 61k, in 78th place

Keep up the good work place in the tourny. And i dont see whats wrong with running the clock down. What if you were playing for 3-4 hours and were getting down on chips wouldnt you want to at least get your buy-in back plus a little i know i would. No use playing all that time and bubbling not a great feeling.

i'm out 40 places to go to the money, and flopped top 2 pair, aggressive player raised I thought about it and pushed he called and flips over a set of aces, for **** sakes, thx all btw for your feed back

I wasnt saying you were a bad player, just speaking in general. I see that you have risen to the occasion. Now go win that tourney!!!!!!!!!

Clock management is a tool in the online poker players MTT arsenal, just like the cards in your hand and the chips in your stack. Not to use any one of your tools to advance in a tourney isn't wise. I am reminded of when I was teaching my Dad how to play better poker. He hated check-raising. Told me it was "dirty" way to play[ lol, I check raise him alot]. As we all know check-raising is a powerful tool, and him playing without that tool put him at a serious disadvantage. Clock managemaent is no less important in large online MTTs.
LUCK and KINDNESS

i always grind the clock in low level MTTs throughout the tournie...you know what i mean, not just let my bank start running down but just thinking through each decision rather than quick clicking...as for really dragging the clock as the bubble approaches, depends on where i am in relation to said bubble...if i have had dead cards and dont have an above average stack...i will ride out every decision i have...if i have a decent stack, i will work the clock some as to keep as many chips possible for aggressive play after the bubble.

Similar to the hand you doubled up on then?

I don't like clock runners either, but you were suggesting doing it 2 hours + from the end of the game! You shouldn't be focusing on last place then, you should just be playing your normal game.

Sounds like your Dad is from about the same era of poker I grew up in. In most live casino games, a check-raise was not allowed, even in limit games.

Tell your Dad that there are still more of us out here that believe check-raising to be 'dirty poker' ...

Doesn't running the clock from an early time kind of defeat the purpose? Am I wrong?? Do you not want to see MORE hands? Not to mention while you're running the clock the blinds are escalating.

No your absouletly correct, I was just suggesting it because at that particular time, I was card dead, not to mention the pace of the game was so fast that ppl where dropping like flies, so taking all that into consideration I figured the best move would've been for me to lay back and kill sometime, once the blinds reach a certain level, start making moves if I had hands, but then I went up to a dominate chip postion, and donked myself out, lol, so I learnt my lesseon, 10/8s is not a playable hand, in any circumstance ever

I advise using any method to win a game,so running the clock before the bubble is a legal,valuable possibility.

I can see, being within 2 or 3 people from the bubble and just having the button come to you....you have a full orbit where you might lose 3 people, but with that Summer game on PS, top 250 win, it seems to be a SUPER fast turbo for some reason..and people will sit there and wait for thier clock to come up EVERY SINGLE TIME, from the start of the game...

Wasn't really so bad up until this week..as it seemed half the sitters were actually cashing. But I couldn't help but think...by letting this time go by, the blinds are going up on you....we could have seen 20 more hands and MAYBE, just MAYBE one of those hands would have been kings aces or big slick?? Maybe not too....

Hopefully someone who KNOWS about this play will shed some more light on the matter...

Rule number 1, Always TAKE CARE OF YOUR CHIPS.

I think running the clock is fine,
if you need to do it becos you are short stacked and close to the money.
I myself have done it to get to the money,and then tryed to donkey my way back to end up on final table.
Of course it dosnt work that way most of the time.
You must do whatever it takes to make the money.
well thats what i think anyway.

I watch the clock most of the time

Not just to see how many are left and can drop but to see when the next blind escalation or break is. If I see a low stack at the table heading into the blinds and it is less than a minute until the next blind increase I might stall so that the blind increase puts them all in, especially if near the payout. If it is nearing a break I might stall if I just passed the blinds so that I will not be back into the blind after the break. As pointed out earlier there are a lot of ways to use your Clock management and it is part of your online tools. Many times I have seen 4-5 players drop just before the payout while I used my time up. Once it goes to hand to hand it is useless but any other time in the tournament it can be useful, jmho

Good Luck and Good Games!

Early in a tourny running the clock makes no sense, You want to see as many hands as possible. Late clock management is a tool every poker player should have as part if their game.

If I'm close to the money, I will run the clock if not big stacked. Your first position was way to far out to run the clock. Within 100 out max. True, the bigger stacks can't stand it, but they are pretty much in the money with their huge stacks. Turn off chat and let them steam! Get your pay then floor it if your at low position. Still I wouldn't drop KK AA along the way.

No offense but the clock is one tool at your disposal, and if you have had bad luck or beats or whatever but are within spitting distance of the money, particularly in a buyin, you must use every tool available to survive.
The peeps with big stacks who whine, complain and type their zzzzzzzzzs make me laugh. Often if I stall its just to get them more tilted (come on! come on!), I know they are anxious and acting on emotion. What's a few more minutes? Lack of patience and understanding of the situation tells me I am dealing with another 12-year-old (hurry up u donkey!!!! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
Other reasons to slow down the action: Empty seats you want to fill before blinds reach you, distance from the blinds going up, and again, to make those dweebs in a rush (left your car running big boy??) steam some more, and bring in the cAPS to show how unbalanced and inarticulate they are: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
If I have an idiot or two like this at my table, chances are they will call my eventual all-in, just cos they are pissed and want me gone. Doubled up a lot of times that way!

if you are down to a bb and a sb, and it is bubble time I would, But this far out in the tourney I wouldnt.

play tight, and dont risk all your chips on a draw

He actually had two pair whereas in his double-up hand he was called with TPTK, slightly different.

Did you read the posts above, OP, or even the title of the topic?

I seen the comment also, but some ppl just don't really read I guess , I was going to make a comment about it, but then was like nah, so ty for taking the time out

Slightly different then, or to use another word (as I did), similar.