Real poker is coming to the state of Florida.

white_lytning

white_lytning

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 7, 2008
Total posts
245
Chips
0
Its been a while since I have contributed to this site. I like to wait for opportunities to find something interesting to write about and avoid the regularly talked about and discussed topics. I play live cash games, almost exclusively, and that is what I like to discuss. This may be a little long, but might be worth your time.

Real poker is finally coming to Florida.

Since 2007 the state of Florida made poker legal in certain locations. Indian territories, mostly Seminal, and some dog and horse tracks were allowed to host modified poker games. The maximum buy in to any cash game was set at $100. This limited the casinos to holding pretty ridiculous no limit games. $1/$2, $2/$5, and even $5/$10 (yes, $5/$10 with a max $100 buy in) no limit games exist at this current moment all over Florida. Limit games can not consist of any bets greater than $5. The highest limit games you will see are $2/$4. Also tournament buy ins were limited to $1,000 or less.

The problem's in the legislation that currently exists are very clear. The buy in is way too low compared to the blinds, and it creates unreal poker situations. Pot commitment is almost forced when calling a pre-flop raise in a $2/$5 or $5/$10. The games in Florida are bad games, and everyone knows it. The good news, is that this is about to end.

The Seminal Indians have reached a new deal with the state in an effort to get rid of these outrageous laws. The Governor, Charlie Christ, has until the end of August to accept the proposed deal. If not accepted the Seminal Indians will go to the federal government to get the approval. The state is expected to accept the deal because of the increased revenue it will bring. Its expected to bring at least $150 million to the state. The Florida housing market has been hit very hard, and for a state without a state text, this money is needed.

The new legislation gets rid of the max buy in for cash games and tournaments. This will completely change Florida poker. Real games will finally be possible. Florida suddenly becomes a very attractive destination for poker events.

The players down here feel like Florida is on the cusp of becoming a real poker haven. It suddenly becomes and even bigger attraction to travel to Florida for poker fans if there is a legitimate game. You can't sit at a table without hearing some talk about this. Vegas, AC, and Ft Lauderdale or Tampa will all be competing for the same poker players.

The casino's are also preparing for the change. The Hardrock in Ft Lauderdale has been getting new tables with bet line for the expected increased betting amounts. Rules are changing to create a more serious game type for the bigger money. The dealers all give a different date they expect it to change. There is a feeling of inevitability which everyone is looking forward to.
 
clubsta

clubsta

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 2, 2009
Total posts
413
Chips
0
That's great! I wish I could be around to see it! I've lived in Florida all my life and am finally moving to NY in early August. I won't have much chances playing up there lol.
 
jordanbillie

jordanbillie

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Dec 19, 2007
Total posts
3,742
Awards
3
Chips
161
I am really trying to get a job down in Florida dealing poker. I currently deal in Niagara Falls, NY and hope these new laws in FL will creat a demand for more dealers.
 
clubsta

clubsta

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 2, 2009
Total posts
413
Chips
0
I have a friend dealing down here and I've heard he makes mad money. You doing well in NY dealing?
 
ZackK19

ZackK19

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 30, 2009
Total posts
115
Chips
0
I live in Tampa ,FL.It has some of the best poker rooms.I have seen.I have a Hard rock in seminole ,FL not too far.I also Have a Tampa Bay Downs which has a state of the art Poker rooms.In which Gavin Smith plays at sometimes.We also have my favorite state of the art Poker room in the derbylane called the derbyclub in St. Petersburg right outside Tampa.Which is a brand new 3.5 million revenation roon.It has 120 HDTV 50' and One section for Tourney and one for Cash games and more tables if needed.The guy who posted first is right Florida will be a big time poker haven.
 
mattj15

mattj15

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Apr 7, 2009
Total posts
37
Chips
0
wow this is great news! i also live near hardrock casino in tampa (it's about a 40 minute drive) if this does happen i'm going to have to drive over to hard rock much more often.
 
KingCurtis

KingCurtis

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 24, 2007
Total posts
9,946
Awards
1
Chips
1
I'm so jealous, there is a casino about 40 min away from me but all slots and horse race betting, BS if you ask me. AC is the closest with a poker room and thats 3 hrs away, but go Florida for this!
 
jordanbillie

jordanbillie

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Dec 19, 2007
Total posts
3,742
Awards
3
Chips
161
I have a friend dealing down here and I've heard he makes mad money. You doing well in NY dealing?

Yeah the dealing up here is great, I just am really trying to move to Florida.
 
C

CashinJen

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 10, 2009
Total posts
99
Chips
0
cool

That's cool I grew up in Florida South Florida to be exact. Okeechobee the big lake down their was my hometown maybe i need to go back I am living in AR right now
 
robert_wrath

robert_wrath

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 22, 2007
Total posts
419
Chips
0
It's about time FL picks up the pace and elects to run with the rest of the big states in casino gaming. Hopefully the recently opened Sands in Bethlehem, PA adapts acquires rights to a poker room. The only unfortunate down fall would be taking business away from Atlantic City, NJ casinos.
 
white_lytning

white_lytning

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 7, 2008
Total posts
245
Chips
0
Just wanted to give an update to everyone. A lot has changed since my OP. I have been following this thread (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57/poker-legislation/florida-new-poker-limits-sb-788-a-497701/) and have spent about 4 hours this week trying to read and understand everything thats going in this state. This thread has Lots of good info, and tons more information than I am going to give in this little summary.

Basically the Seminal tribe is now not in agreement with the state legislator because of a few issues with the compact that has been signed by governor Christ:
1) The biggest disagreement seems to be in the lack of whats called "exclusivity" that has been provided to other Indian tribes in previous court decisions. The legislation signed by the state of Florida does not provide exclusivity to the Seminals. This allows the state to provide high limit poker (and other class 3 gaming) to other institutions. The Siminal indians, for obvious reasons, don't want this to happen.

2) The tribe will be forced to pay 50% more. This is even harder to take without the guarantee of exclusivity. The seminals are afriad that if other parties are allowed to have poker they should not be forced to pay more than the currently do.

As of now it does not look like any of the poker laws will be changing any time soon in Florida. The Seminal tribe is not going to accept an agreement that does not give them exclusive rights to class 3 gaming. The state, as of now, does not look like its going to provide that. It looks like it will just be more and more time until someone gives. No one is really sure when that will happen.
 
Debi

Debi

Forum Admin
Administrator
Joined
Oct 13, 2006
Total posts
74,703
Awards
20
Chips
1,351
I wish they could get it all worked out. Florida is much closer to me than any of the other places where good tournaments are held.
 
white_lytning

white_lytning

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
May 7, 2008
Total posts
245
Chips
0
Another Update

The deadline is approaching this week and the state's negotiator, Galvano, is in the capital meeting with the Seminals. There was an article today that kind offered some hope to this compact being signed and changes coming to the state. Galvano said that it looks like the state is going to try to reach a middle ground with the indians to accept the deal becaue of the possible increase in funds towards the state's budget. The deadline is August 31st. This is a big week for poker in florida, and if the deal is signed poker in general. Florida will become a huge poker destination.

Keeping my fingures crossed that this happens. If so, the first few months of this are going to be insanely juicy. Updates will follow
 
dmorris68

dmorris68

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
May 27, 2008
Total posts
6,788
Awards
2
Chips
0
Well I'll be back down there Wednesday through the end of the week (wife's family reunion in Panama City), so I'll be heading over to Ebro again to play some $1/$2 NL. I was hoping this would get resolved before then, I felt really tied down by the 50bb buy-in. Maybe next year.
 
Mortis

Mortis

The Saurus
Loyaler
Joined
Nov 27, 2007
Total posts
12,029
Awards
6
US
Chips
709
I just moved to Florida less than a week ago. Would be nice to get this through.. hopefully paving the way for a possible wsop Circuit event to come through the state in the future.
 
G

gogetter

Rising Star
Bronze Level
Joined
Aug 11, 2009
Total posts
9
Chips
0
Hello,

PLEASE state it properly............It's SEMINOLE not seminal.
 
left52side

left52side

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 5, 2008
Total posts
1,850
Chips
0
I live in Tampa ,FL.It has some of the best poker rooms.I have seen.I have a Hard rock in seminole ,FL not too far.I also Have a Tampa Bay Downs which has a state of the art Poker rooms.In which Gavin Smith plays at sometimes.We also have my favorite state of the art Poker room in the derbylane called the derbyclub in St. Petersburg right outside Tampa.Which is a brand new 3.5 million revenation roon.It has 120 HDTV 50' and One section for Tourney and one for Cash games and more tables if needed.The guy who posted first is right Florida will be a big time poker haven.
I have played in tampa several times in the past,most notably the hard rock and at luckys card room.
I think that is at the track.
Just some tournaments in hardrock.


This is great for florida.
I usually travel to biloxi or tunica to play.
The 100 buy in max andonly being able to play 2/4 limit was just games that couldnt be beat past the rake if you ask me.
I love the fact that we are going to be gettin some new regulations down here for that.
 
chuG

chuG

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 22, 2009
Total posts
312
Chips
0
I have family over there and am in planning for visiting Miami.

This is good to hear.
 
Debi

Debi

Forum Admin
Administrator
Joined
Oct 13, 2006
Total posts
74,703
Awards
20
Chips
1,351
Would love this - Florida is close for me. Well some parts of it are lol.
 
left52side

left52side

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 5, 2008
Total posts
1,850
Chips
0
Would love this - Florida is close for me. Well some parts of it are lol.

Deb anytime you and Joe come down you can stay on my boat.
I will show you guys a great time down here ok.
 
Debi

Debi

Forum Admin
Administrator
Joined
Oct 13, 2006
Total posts
74,703
Awards
20
Chips
1,351
Deb anytime you and Joe come down you can stay on my boat.
I will show you guys a great time down here ok.

What part of Florida are you in? (and do I look like someone who could get by staying on a boat? hehe)
 
left52side

left52side

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 5, 2008
Total posts
1,850
Chips
0
What part of Florida are you in? (and do I look like someone who could get by staying on a boat? hehe)

I am about an hour or so north of tampa.
And my boat is not just a boat lol,it has all the amenities of a modern hotel one might find nessesary :p
 
Mortis

Mortis

The Saurus
Loyaler
Joined
Nov 27, 2007
Total posts
12,029
Awards
6
US
Chips
709
I am about an hour or so north of tampa.
And my boat is not just a boat lol,it has all the amenities of a modern hotel one might find nessesary :p

Party on Left's boat! I'm over on the east coast of Florida, just north of Ft. Lauderdale. Tampa's not too far :D
 
Top