A rampage hand

Found quite funny as I don't usually play at this level and thought this type of player was only found at the $25NL and lower.
I would also add that I have an image of a tight player and villian is not new to table.

PokerStars Game #10489382407: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/06/17 - 22:35:38 (ET)
Table 'Xanthe III' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: wannebeer ($100.05 in chips)
Seat 2: VBISK ($218.25 in chips)
Seat 3: creamshow ($21.40 in chips)
Seat 4: BLovely ($111.45 in chips)
Seat 5: fritzs ($48.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Orion469 ($28.30 in chips)
Seat 7: JCBakula ($67.20 in chips)
Seat 8: gerardx1983 ($103.05 in chips)
Seat 9: odi385 ($174.25 in chips)
odi385: posts small blind $0.50
wannebeer: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Orion469 [Ks Kh]
VBISK: calls $1
creamshow: folds
BLovely: folds
fritzs: folds
Orion469: raises $5 to $6
JCBakula: folds
gerardx1983: folds
odi385: folds
wannebeer: calls $5
VBISK: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [As Qh 8h]
wannebeer: checks
VBISK: checks
Orion469: bets $12
wannebeer: calls $12
VBISK: folds
*** TURN *** [As Qh 8h] 4♥
wannebeer: checks
Orion469: checks
*** RIVER *** [As Qh 8h 4h] A♣ I had checked, thinking that I was being slowplayed and didn't want to risk anymore
wannebeer: checks
Orion469: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wannebeer: shows [Th 9d] (a pair of Aces)
Orion469: shows [Ks Kh] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Orion469 collected $40.45 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $42.50 | Rake $2.05
Board [As Qh 8h 4h Ac]
Seat 1: wannebeer (big blind) showed [Th 9d] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: VBISK folded on the Flop
Seat 3: creamshow folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BLovely folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: fritzs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Orion469 showed [Ks Kh] and won ($40.45) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 7: JCBakula folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: gerardx1983 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: odi385 (small blind) folded before Flop

yeah, i think some people just don't care about money, this is just donating money, what a moron glad one of us is profitting from dumb moves for a change .

What can I say? Short-stacks get no credit for a good hand. Everyone seem to think that short stacks will never get a good enough hand to play.

Nice...

Wow, not even suited.lol. The scary thing is that all he had to do was bet and he would have taken it down. Or would he?

He might have if he re-raised the flop

thank god for people who love chasing inside straight draws....good luck on rampaging. I tried it today and ended up not having the balls to continue past $450.

you guys are missing points here, the point is you have 20 Big Blinds so you are going to get called by alot of draws. It is why rampaging CAN be profitable. Everyone is yelling at the dude here for making this call with inside straight draw but with the stack sizes he knows the most he has to commit after this call is $10. That is exactly what we want and honestly we expect the calls from draws. That is why we do this to enter a game with 20BB and get paid off and that is why it works.

look at it there is $15.50 in pot preflop and he has to call $12 and if guy calls behind him that would give him 3-1 not good odds but he knows that you only have $10 behind so why not take shot on draw. It represents 1/10th of his stack.


and for guy that made $450 rampaging?????

come on now! that would mean you made it to 10/20 NL since $200 is what you play with at 5/10.

i was actually at the $4/$8 table....and pissed my pants when the third hand I got was AQ....flop came A/10/7....guy raised me all in and he had AJ....I knew it was time to stop

should of joined contest a run like that would of put you way in lead.

i didn't know there was a contest going on. i read that rampaging thing you posted yesterday at work and couldnt wait to get home to try it. the first 3 times it sucked, but today the card gods were on my side.

you can still join just follow the rules stated in thread and post sitting and I will add you to official list. Make sure you enter all the info though, site, username, table.

Yuck! What perverse logic. Calling a 2:1 pot with a 11:1 is bad enough with implied odds. It's downright retarded without. Even if you do hit your draw, the your oponent doesn't have near enough behind him to cover the times you don't. That being said, alot of players (bad ones) do think this way.

that was kinda my point.

that is why we buy in for 20bb.

yes this is a bad call by dude, but for 1/10th of his stack these calls are going to happen at all levels of play.

when I first wrote this i didnt realize we had $10 behind then I edited and just said oh well dont feel like editing whole thing and just let it go.

^^this. Also, I thought that for the rampage you usually just bought in for the very minimum and shoved as a reraise? Isn't most of the point to get the money in early (preflop) since the villain is willing to call because of your short stack? It's nice to run into an idiot like this, but as FD points out, you shouldn't be getting calls on draws when you are short because you have nothing to pay off with if the draw hits.

It's fine if you have a big draw that's say 35% to hit, and you just have a pot-sized bet or less behind on the flop. But with a gutshot your chances of hitting are 1 in 8 or something... you'd have to have only a fraction of the pot size to make the call on the flop +EV. So you'd need either a very very small stack on the flop or a very very big one (because of implied odds) to continue with a gutshot on the flop... and this player has a medium sized one.

yes I know i didnt read the hand history well, give me break was busy messing with rampaging thread at time and other things.

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guess I should of gone back and edited instead of saying oh well and let it go.

truth is made bad incorrect statement because was multi tasking and was too lazy to go back and correct it.