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  #1  
19-12-2007, 7:53 PM
smells_flushy
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Raising "pot" preflop in online poker.

The blinds are $0.10/$0.25, you are UTG, and you click "bet pot", and the betting bar climbs to $0.85.

I don't get it. The pot added up is $0.10 + $0.25 = $0.35. If i bet the pot, i should raise an additional $0.35, which makes $0.70.

Where did the extra $0.15 come from? lol
 

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  #2  
19-12-2007, 7:58 PM
ChuckTs
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You can think of it this way:

.35 in the pot, and then you make a minraise of .25 + .25 = .50, so .50 + .35 = .85
  #3  
19-12-2007, 8:20 PM
calicokid49
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it still doesnt make sense to me either
  #4  
19-12-2007, 8:25 PM
dj11
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It works out that you call before the pot raise......Sometimes....., but your example must be from distant planet, cause it makes no sense to me either.
  #5  
19-12-2007, 8:32 PM
ChuckTs
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OK, put simply, from No Limit and Pot Limit Poker Rules:

4. The maximum amount a player can raise is the amount in the pot after the call is made. Therefore, if a pot is $100, and someone makes a $50 bet, the next player can call $50 and raise the pot $200, for a total wager of $250.
  #6  
19-12-2007, 9:32 PM
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Here's an example to help explain. Let's say you're heads-up on the flop, you have a strong hand but there's a flush draw out there. The pot is $3, and your opponent leads out for $1. You have a note on him that he does this with draws, so you want to make a pot sized raise to price him out. Well, the existing pot is $3 + $1 = $4. So do you raise $4 to a total of $5? No! If you put in $5, your first dollar is your CALL, the next $4 is your RAISE. Your opponent would now have to call $4 into a $5 pot. Good enough to price out a draw, obviously, but not a complete pot-sized raise.

To raise the pot, you always first include the price of your call. So in the above example, your call would make the pot $5, then you raise $5 more on top of the $1 bet to make it $6 to go.

In the OP's original question, the pot is .10 + .25 = .35. Your call is .25 more, making the pot .60, so a pot-sized raise is .25 + .60 = .85.
  #7  
19-12-2007, 10:21 PM
DetroitJimmy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GunslingerZ
Here's an example to help explain. Let's say you're heads-up on the flop, you have a strong hand but there's a flush draw out there. The pot is $3, and your opponent leads out for $1. You have a note on him that he does this with draws, so you want to make a pot sized raise to price him out. Well, the existing pot is $3 + $1 = $4. So do you raise $4 to a total of $5? No! If you put in $5, your first dollar is your CALL, the next $4 is your RAISE. Your opponent would now have to call $4 into a $5 pot. Good enough to price out a draw, obviously, but not a complete pot-sized raise.

To raise the pot, you always first include the price of your call. So in the above example, your call would make the pot $5, then you raise $5 more on top of the $1 bet to make it $6 to go.

In the OP's original question, the pot is .10 + .25 = .35. Your call is .25 more, making the pot .60, so a pot-sized raise is .25 + .60 = .85.
Gunslinger,you straying from THP forum?Just kidding,I still go by there from time to time,but I like it here better.Welcome and glad to see we have another "real" member to make real post.
  #8  
19-12-2007, 10:28 PM
belladonna05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GunslingerZ
Here's an example to help explain. Let's say you're heads-up on the flop, you have a strong hand but there's a flush draw out there. The pot is $3, and your opponent leads out for $1. You have a note on him that he does this with draws, so you want to make a pot sized raise to price him out. Well, the existing pot is $3 + $1 = $4. So do you raise $4 to a total of $5? No! If you put in $5, your first dollar is your CALL, the next $4 is your RAISE. Your opponent would now have to call $4 into a $5 pot. Good enough to price out a draw, obviously, but not a complete pot-sized raise.

To raise the pot, you always first include the price of your call. So in the above example, your call would make the pot $5, then you raise $5 more on top of the $1 bet to make it $6 to go.

In the OP's original question, the pot is .10 + .25 = .35. Your call is .25 more, making the pot .60, so a pot-sized raise is .25 + .60 = .85.
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