| This is a discussion on Rabbit Cams are wrong - Random Card Generator within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; if sites are run on a random card generator then the cards that are rabbited are wrong because the cards are always being shuffled. So ... |
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| Rabbit Cams are wrong - Random Card Generator if sites are run on a random card generator then the cards that are rabbited are wrong because the cards are always being shuffled. So if someone did call the card that would of came out on the rabbit more than likely would of not came out with the call. Am i correct? |
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| re: Rabbit Cams are wrong - Random Card Generator poker My understanding was that most sites did not determine the next card until it was time to display it on the screen. I looked it up and I was wrong. From what I've read, only Full Tilt continually shuffles the deck until the card is needed. |
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| If I fold a big draw and others continue the hand, I usually look away. I dont even want to know after I've folded. If you call a million times and would have lost money, then it doesn't matter if it happens to hit that one time. |
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| [QUOTE[quote]]Can't it work the opposite? JQ folds to see a A85. But do you necessarily want these tight players in your hand? Personally, I see no point to it. I DO use it someimes, usually to show folk my hand, ya know, keep myself honest (probably stupid, but only in freerolls, where you get moved to a new table soon anyway usually). Is Carbon the only site that uses this? As far as I know The carbon network is the one with the rabit cam... but I could be wrong. And I it would not make sence as to why the cards would keep suffleing because if it is true how can there ever be such things as "superuser" accounts(I think thats what it is called when you know what cards are comeing. |
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| I agree with cowboy on this one. In my home game people always ask to see the last cards after a hand. It's always the same 2 or 3 people, and they always end up chasing hands later on because they saw that if they stayed in the previous hand they would have straightened or flushed out. It tends to make poor players chase more which i don't mind. BTW on EVERY site i know the generator does not randomize the cards after the deal. It's like a normal deck for the duration of the hand. |
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As for slowing the game down, that's exactly the reason it's discouraged in live casinos. Being continually asked to rabbit cards is one of the most sure-fire ways to tilt your dealer, BTW. The number of times I've had to fake a smile and say "Whoops - sorry, already mucked the deck"... Online though, I don't see the problem with it as it doesn't actually take any more time. |
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| no no no, the cards are shuffled after the flop, and the turn non stop over and over and over, non stop shuffling on the merge networks like carbon, so i was told other sites dont have a rabbit cam, or most dont Last edited by ttwarrior1 : 8th October 2008 at 3:32 AM. Reason: na |
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| Pokerstars? Someone said on Pokerstars that if you play with the cusrsor enought you can change your luck is this really possible? |
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| re: Rabbit Cams are wrong - Random Card Generator poker ok i have no idea what a rabbit cam is, neevr heard of it before lol. but from what this sounds like im guessing its where you get the chance to see what the cards "would" have come out as if the hand progressed? someone please let me know lol!! |
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Rabit cam is an potion on Carbon poker, its kind of a neet little option that allows you to play out the board if you are folded to before the river |
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| That is exactly right stevie_is_god, but aren't you 'sposed to be omniscient? People have done this is live games for a long time, but now we can do it online too. It is the absolute expression of results oriented thinking and makes players second guess their decisions encouraging bad play. cAPS |
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Pokerstars say they use input from the users UI like mouse movements to add extra data to the RNG for the sake of entropy. Pretty genius really... But "changing your luck" is a fairy lovely concept! I envision some jackass as some other monitor jangling his mouse around going "cmon 7!!! fill my gutshot". Also at pokerstars once the cards are shuffled the RNG is done till the next hand. No amount of voodoomouse will change the outcome of the hand. |
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| re: Rabbit Cams are wrong - Random Card Generator poker Quote:
OTOH, Stars does set the entire 52 card deck before the first card is dealt. Nothing changes the order of delivery. This is in their website security section at: PokerStars Software Security - Secure Online Poker I haven't researched the smaller sites, so cannot comment on how they perform their shuffle and deal. |
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Here's an abstract from a patent site: "A random number generator includes a first oscillator that provides a first oscillatory signal to a processor, and a second oscillator that provides a signal to a frequency multiplier, which in turn provides a second oscillatory signal to the processor. The relative jitter between the two oscillatory signals contains a calculable amount of entropy that is extracted by the processor to produce a sequence of true random numbers." Too complicated to worry about? Consider that True RNG's are used in government and 'big' business cryptography systems for creating unbreakable code. |
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FWIW, I have it on good authoruty that if you wait 4.345 seconds when it is your turn to bet at Full Tilt, an Ace will appear on the board. |
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