Pot odds question

This is a discussion on Pot odds question within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; Hi guys, A quick pot odds question according to the world poker tour calculator A-10 suited vs KK is approximately a 3 to 1 underdog. ...
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  #1
22nd November 2009, 5:38 PM
RAFC24
 
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Pot odds question

Hi guys,

A quick pot odds question

according to the world poker tour calculator A-10 suited vs KK is approximately a 3 to 1 underdog. So if the pot were paying us 2.5 to 1 then in theory we wouldnt call preflop, assuming we put our opponent on kings right?

But I was watching a youtube video with Daniel Negreanu explaining this exact situation and he said you would have to make the call in this case. He said that A-10 suited is only a 2 to 1 underdog agians a pair of kings

Who's right who's wrong or am I not understanding this right?

Thanks
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  #2
22nd November 2009, 5:58 PM
cjatud2012
 
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Negreanu is right-- ATs is a 2-1 dog here, so any pot odds better than that would justify a call. What may have happened on WPT (assuming this was television) is another opponent mucked an A, which would obviously decrease the number of outs the player had.
  #3
22nd November 2009, 11:06 PM
cjatud2012
 
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Something I completely forgot about is if this is preflop, on the flop, etc... My calculation was preflop.
  #4
22nd November 2009, 11:51 PM
Grossberger
 
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Well just looked at the cardplayer odds calculator heres the odds
A 10 diamonds vs. Ks Kc 32.65%/66.98%
A 10 diamonds vs. Ks Kd 32.08%/67.47%

so I didn't believe it but yea A 10 suited is 2 to 1 underdog vs Kings
  #5
23rd November 2009, 12:32 AM
RAFC24
 
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re: Pot odds question poker

Quote:
Originally Posted by cjatud2012
Negreanu is right-- ATs is a 2-1 dog here, so any pot odds better than that would justify a call. What may have happened on WPT (assuming this was television) is another opponent mucked an A, which would obviously decrease the number of outs the player had.
Its actually the pot odds calculator on the world poker tour website that gave me these odds.
  #6
23rd November 2009, 12:35 AM
RAFC24
 
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Ok maybe because I failed grade 7 math but a 33% to 66% odds are 2-1 not 3-1.
 



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