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switch0723
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
. Anyway i use percentages aswell since i know how to work out parcentages based on outs. While i dont know how to do it using
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Bentheman87
Visionary
Silver Level
Yeah ratios ARE a lot faster, I think I'm gonna try using only ratios. The only reason I normally use % is it's easier to to get an idea of just how big of a favorite or underdog you are in a hand. I mean, if you know you're a 1.8:1 dog with two cards to come is great when you need to figure out the correct mathematical decision, but I have a clearer mental picture of where I'm at if I know I'm only about 35% to win
aliengenius
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Ratios normally, % when in all-in situations. Remember, you should be calculating your odds one street at a time, so knowing that you are 35% on the flop to hit your flush doesn't really help you (that's the % with two cards to come). It's really a simple memorization:
outs-- ratio
1-- 46:1
2-- 23:1
3-- 15:1
4-- (gut shot) 11:1
5-- 8:1
6-- (over cards) 7:1
7-- 6:1
8-- (oesd) 5:1
9-- (flush draw) 4:1
10-- 3.7:1
11-- 3.3:1
12-- 3:1
13-- 2.6:1
14-- 2.4:1
15-- 2.1:1
If you were able to successully memorize your multiplication tables this should be no problem. Really, you could probably get buy with just to bold ones.
outs-- ratio
1-- 46:1
2-- 23:1
3-- 15:1
4-- (gut shot) 11:1
5-- 8:1
6-- (over cards) 7:1
7-- 6:1
8-- (oesd) 5:1
9-- (flush draw) 4:1
10-- 3.7:1
11-- 3.3:1
12-- 3:1
13-- 2.6:1
14-- 2.4:1
15-- 2.1:1
If you were able to successully memorize your multiplication tables this should be no problem. Really, you could probably get buy with just to bold ones.
pantin007
member
Silver Level
what AG said
thats about it
allndave
Rock Star
Silver Level
i think the question was for pot odds not hand improving odds , pot odds how much is in the pot vs what it will cost to see anouther card and then how about implied odds how many calling stations behind you etc. so if only cost 1 bet to win 11 i guess you are suppose to chase that gutshot?
aliengenius
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Yes, if its 11:1 you should chase. Surely no one thinks, "huh, he just bet 8% of the pot and that's only x % of our stacks so I should call" in situations like that. I think the human brain is going to convert it to some kind of ratio (not %) automatically.