Pokerstars set up hands

#1 9th August 2008, 11:03 PM

I am sure this could call for debate, but I have been playing on ps for quite some time. One thing that frustrates me while trying to play tight agrresive, is that that the majority of the times I catch a power hand,( qq or jj) somebody else catches a bigger power hand. I can't count how may times I have seen this happen to me and others on ps. Have others had this happen repeatedly on ps?

Also, does anyone realize the rareness of seing kk vs aa vs qq in one hand, which happens all the time on ps?

Sorry, I just needed to vent my ps frustrations......

#2 9th August 2008, 11:10 PM

It doesn't happen all the time, you see thousands of hands a day so you are bound to see it happen more often than you would live.

The only thing going on here is that you are selectively remembering the times when your big hands get sucked out on. You don't remember the times your AA holds and you double up, or you raise KK from MP and everyone folds.

#3 9th August 2008, 11:25 PM

No debate, really. If you read Stars tech/security pages, you'll find that the entire 52 card deck is set before the first card is dealt, just like it is in a BnM casino or cardroom.

The only diff in the deal is that they do not use a burn card. Since top card on the remaining deck cannot be 'marked', there is no need for a burn card.

I play live as much as I can and have since '69. The cards play out the same and multiple pairs do happen. Online, you also see more players calling and raising with ATC and hitting their junk.

Don't buy into the 'action card conspiracy' theories, or just uninstall online poker rooms and stick with live play.

#4 9th August 2008, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illkrillz

I am sure this could call for debate, but I have been playing on PokerStars for quite some time. One thing that frustrates me while trying to play tight agrresive, is that that the majority of the times I catch a power hand,( qq or jj) somebody else catches a bigger power hand. I can't count how may times I have seen this happen to me and others on PokerStars. Have others had this happen repeatedly on PokerStars?

Also, does anyone realize the rareness of seing kk vs aa vs qq in one hand, which happens all the time on PokerStars?

Sorry, I just needed to vent my PokerStars frustrations......

All the time? Uhhh nope, thats like pretty rare occurance, I think ur BSing me.

You sound like you dont understand poker. See, there is a winner and a loser in each hand, if you hold JJ and another player holds QQ-AA, you are the loser roughly 80% of the time. Its quite simple.

#5 10th August 2008, 12:04 AM

I can't really disagree with what you believe there Illkriz, but the trueth is that these things tend to happen more online for the fact that there's more hands being played all at the same time, so the same situation is bound to keep on rehappening, I personally was victim to this for a week and half, straight, where my KK constantly kept running into there AA, so but then again, i've done the same thing to others, all in all it's poker, it's cards, and it's just either bad luck, or bad timing

#6 10th August 2008, 12:13 AM

The exact scenario you described I can recall seeing twice in live games, and the one on TV was worse KKvKKvQQvAA, and in this years WSOP, can't remember which event but 3 all in with QQvKKvAA. There are probably more hands dealt in 1 day on PokerStars, than in all the casinos in Vegas in a year. If the rng is truly random, (which it is) you are bound to see it more often.

#7 10th August 2008, 3:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevadanick

No debate, really. If you read Stars tech/security pages, you'll find that the entire 52 card deck is set before the first card is dealt, just like it is in a BnM casino or cardroom.

The only diff in the deal is that they do not use a burn card. Since top card on the remaining deck cannot be 'marked', there is no need for a burn card.

I play live as much as I can and have since '69. The cards play out the same and multiple pairs do happen. Online, you also see more players calling and raising with ATC and hitting their junk.

Don't buy into the 'action card conspiracy' theories, or just uninstall online poker rooms and stick with live play.

Right on, Nick. There is no conspiracy.

#8 10th August 2008, 3:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illkrillz

Also, does anyone realize the rareness of seing kk vs aa vs qq in one hand, which happens all the time on PokerStars?

I happened to go out in a live tournament with this exact scenario. I had QQ, guy two spots to my left had AA, and the guy two spots to his left had KK. AA guy raises pf, KK guy calls, I push, AA calls, KK guy FOLDS (showed his hand)...and OH MY GOODNESS!!! AA held-up!! So I say to you...live poker is more rigged.

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