Poker Tracker v Poker Office v Holdem Manager

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  #1
27th May 2009, 2:24 AM
kingme620
 
Poker Tracker v Poker Office v Holdem Manager

Hey guys,

I haven't played poker period in about 5 or 6 months. I haven't had much luck finding up to date comparisons of these programs anywhere...Has there been standout update that makes one an overall winner right now that I missed in my absence?

If not I'll go back to PT.
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  #2
27th May 2009, 2:29 AM
NoWuckingFurries
 
Word on the street is that HEM is now better than PT - but harder to install successfully.
  #3
27th May 2009, 2:32 AM
kingme620
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoWuckingFurries
Word on the street is that HEM is now better than PT - but harder to install successfully.
hmm, from what I'm seeing HEM is getting slightly better reviews.
  #4
27th May 2009, 2:45 AM
NoWuckingFurries
 
Isn't that what I just said?
  #5
27th May 2009, 3:04 AM
sindri_93
 
Game: NL
HEM>PT3>PO. And not even close.

I use PT3 btw.
  #6
27th May 2009, 3:18 AM
kingme620
 
re: Poker Tracker v Poker Office v Holdem Manager

why yes it is

sindri_93, why don't you use HEM then?
  #7
27th May 2009, 3:22 AM
sindri_93
 
Game: NL
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingme620
why yes it is

sindri_93, why don't you use HEM then?
Cause i bought PT3 out of stuborness.
Every one told me HEM was better but i still didnt go with it, will probably end up buying HEM sooner or later.
  #8
27th May 2009, 3:59 AM
Tygran
 
Plays at: Stars
Game: NLH
Quote:
Originally Posted by sindri_93
HEM>PT3>PO. And not even close.
^^ What he said

HeM is enough better than PT3 that I bought it after paying for PT3 first.
  #9
27th May 2009, 6:04 AM
WVHillbilly
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Try both HEM (2 week trial) and PT3 (60 day trial).

I brought PT3 1st, then HEM. I stopped using HEM because I don't like it as well as PT3. Just figured I'd throw that all in there to show you you really need to try both and decide for yourself.
  #10
27th May 2009, 6:24 AM
PattyR
 
Plays at: full tilt
Game: hold em
looks like i need to look into buying hem myself

im looking to make a big deposit on pokerstars and tilt.

finishing up some poker books and gettin even more of them, need a software like one of these very very badly
  #11
27th May 2009, 7:21 AM
WEC
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem/Omaha
I have not seen any full on review of the programs--but not too long ago I won a choice of free programs including HEM and PT3 etc. In my mind I thought it was a no-brainer to pick PT3. Just to be sure, I posted in several forums the same question, and was shocked to see an overwhelming majority of top players pick HEM.

Suffice to say I went with HEM. While you need to be a rocket scientist to work these programs--I think at least HEM is fantastic, and they are constantly imporoving the product and have a great staff that answers all questions at the HEM Forum.

Whatever you choose, they all are useful to play better and understand your opponent and your own game.

Also, several allow you to get the program for free if you deposit and download using their code. I would not choose that option though as opening a rakeback account would be more profitable than using it for the money to buy the program. Some people dont have the $75 or w/e it is to buy though..so you gotta do what ya gotta do to improve the game.

One day I will figure out the entire program so I can take full advantage of its benefits.
  #12
27th May 2009, 9:27 AM
Egon Towst
 
Plays at: All over
Game: NLHE, PLO
re: Poker Tracker v Poker Office v Holdem Manager

There is a fairly general consensus now among CC regulars that HEM is better than PT (although the latter is also perfectly serviceable)

The latest version of Poker Office has good reviews, but PO is more expensive than the other two. You buy a year`s licence, rather than a permanent one. That is difficult to justify.
  #13
27th May 2009, 9:39 AM
BelgoSuisse
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by WVHillbilly
Try both HEM (2 week trial) and PT3 (60 day trial).
Quote:
Originally Posted by sindri_93
HEM>PT3>PO. And not even close.
Both true.

I bought PT3 first, then HEM, and I never ever use PT3 anymore.
  #14
27th May 2009, 9:42 AM
BelgoSuisse
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by WEC
Some people dont have the $75 or w/e it is to buy though..
if you don't have $75 to spend on a tracker, you don't have enough money to play poker anyway.
  #15
27th May 2009, 10:05 AM
Tygran
 
Plays at: Stars
Game: NLH
Quote:
Originally Posted by WEC
Some people dont have the $75 or w/e it is to buy though..so you gotta do what ya gotta do to improve the game.


If ya can't beat $2 NL without the tracker, it isn't going to help...
  #16
27th May 2009, 3:20 PM
jordanbillie
 
Plays at: Cake
Game: PLO/O8
I don't use any of them and I am fine.
  #17
27th May 2009, 4:46 PM
Sohmurr
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: HORSE
Quote:
Originally Posted by sindri_93
HEM>PT3>PO. And not even close.

I use PT3 btw.
Why is it not even close? I've only begun my HEM free trial but it doesn't seem remarkably different than PT3. Slightly better interface, but nothing poking its head out and saying "hey, this is way better".
  #18
27th May 2009, 4:48 PM
Monoxide
 
Plays at: Pokerstars
Game: The holdems
re: Poker Tracker v Poker Office v Holdem Manager

You will get basically what you need from PT3 or HEM, my comp sucks and seems to dislike HEM greatly so I use PT3.

But I liked hem, alot, it is a solid program when you can get it to function properly. If I get a new PC I will probably buy HEM.
  #19
27th May 2009, 4:56 PM
BelgoSuisse
 
Plays at: Full Tilt
Game: NL Holdem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sohmurr
Why is it not even close? I've only begun my HEM free trial but it doesn't seem remarkably different than PT3. Slightly better interface, but nothing poking its head out and saying "hey, this is way better".
Better filters. But mostly it's reliable. When it was released, PT3 had very serious support problem and was extremely buggy for the first 6 months or so. That means you can never be sure it will keep functionning properly with poker sites update. HEM has a much better record in terms of reliability.
  #20
27th May 2009, 7:47 PM
NoWuckingFurries
 
Would it be fair to say that one is better for cash game players and another one for MTT/SNG players?
  #21
27th May 2009, 11:45 PM
tredigs
 
I almost purchased PT3 in the past, but like a lot of you read the same reviews about Hold 'em Manager. I actually ended up downloading the trial of HeM, but didn't get it working properly. Their tech support was actually not that helpful for me, so I put it aside. That was like ~6 months ago.

Anyone know of a good tutorial on how to use this thing?
  #22
28th May 2009, 2:43 AM
Falian
 
I wish these ran off of free advertising :P
  #23
28th May 2009, 5:44 AM
WEC
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem/Omaha
Quote:
Originally Posted by tredigs
I almost purchased PT3 in the past, but like a lot of you read the same reviews about Hold 'em Manager. I actually ended up downloading the trial of HeM, but didn't get it working properly. Their tech support was actually not that helpful for me, so I put it aside. That was like ~6 months ago.

Anyone know of a good tutorial on how to use this thing?
the instructions right on HEM are extremely thourogh and I was able to download it all easily by following step-by-step. The hand spoon you the things you need to do. Maybe re-look at it now.
  #24
28th May 2009, 5:49 AM
WEC
 
Plays at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem/Omaha
re: Poker Tracker v Poker Office v Holdem Manager

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoWuckingFurries
Would it be fair to say that one is better for cash game players and another one for MTT/SNG players?
HEM used to be mainly for cash...but they have just completed the version that includes full MTT coverage for many sites and are adding more sites from what they say.
  #25
29th May 2009, 10:30 AM
Infamous1020
 
Plays at: Stars/FTP
Game: Hold'em/PLO
HEM wins.
  #26
29th May 2009, 10:06 PM
Pafkata
 
Plays at: FullTilt
Game: NL Holdem
hmm

Quote:
Originally Posted by BelgoSuisse
if you don't have $75 to spend on a tracker, you don't have enough money to play poker anyway.
Well, I don't have $75 to spend on a tracker and I won't ever spend because I do not see any value in using a tracker , however I can always spend $75 on a good poker book...
  #27
30th May 2009, 10:23 AM
Infamous1020
 
Plays at: Stars/FTP
Game: Hold'em/PLO
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pafkata
Well, I don't have $75 to spend on a tracker and I won't ever spend because I do not see any value in using a tracker , however I can always spend $75 on a good poker book...
imo you need a tracker if youre playing online unless youre playing like 1 table.

75 on HEM is pretty much good money spent lol.

and you could always go and spend a few grand on a poker book also


HEM+DeucesCracked = completely worth it imo.
  #28
9th June 2009, 5:20 PM
SPCotter
 
Plays at: FT/Devilfish
Game: NLHE
Hmm.. I'm downloading and installing Hold Em Manager trial now, damn, this is a long winded process! Hopefully be worth it, I expect to be back in this thread asking questions in probably about half an hour lol
  #29
9th June 2009, 6:03 PM
SPCotter
 
Plays at: FT/Devilfish
Game: NLHE
Ok I'm up and running, absolutely do not understand the HUD at the moment lol, but I'm sure I will get there, as I'm a dork and haven't been saving my HH till late, there isn't much to work on, at the end of the 15 day trial, will I still be able to access my stats etc. As only then I'll be able to start put stuff up for advice on leaks etc. Like does it just stop importing, or does the software lock up altogether?

Regards
  #30
9th June 2009, 10:27 PM
Crummy
 
Plays at: FT,PS,Ultimatebet,BD
Game: Hold 'em
re: Poker Tracker v Poker Office v Holdem Manager

HEM is a pretty good program. I bought it, just really don't use it like I should. The last few weeks I actually have not even used it at all. From the times that I have used it, I enjoy it and it gives good detail on the HUD, plus when I go back to evaluate my play I see a lot of useful infor that helps me plug leaks.
  #31
10th June 2009, 4:02 AM
kingme620
 
Thanks for the replies everybody.

I've tried/bought HEM and its as great as advertised. Won't go back to PT anytime soon.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crummy
HEM is a pretty good program. I bought it, just really don't use it like I should. The last few weeks I actually have not even used it at all. From the times that I have used it, I enjoy it and it gives good detail on the HUD, plus when I go back to evaluate my play I see a lot of useful infor that helps me plug leaks.
It's easy not to use it and just...PLAY. But you are really missing out if you do this. ESPECIALLY if you bought the thing.
 



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