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  Poker - Poker cheat software video on youtube??
 
  #1  
09-08-2007, 8:51 AM
HugoBAces
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Poker cheat software video on youtube??

Is this thing real???

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was browsing for some chip tricks videos to practice for my trip to vegas soon and saw this video. Is this thing real or am I seeing this wrong?? Please confirm i am about to buy this thing tonight!!!
 

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  #2  
09-08-2007, 8:58 AM
joosebuck
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wow. holy shit. i hope not.
  #3  
09-08-2007, 9:25 AM
arkadiy
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PokerRNG 6.0 - PokerRNG Software Video Footage

I don't understand what is it doing, seeing opponents hand?!
  #4  
09-08-2007, 9:26 AM
arkadiy
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Btw, the guy who is playing (the cards we see), his name on pokerstars is mr lasky and he has lost a lot of money so.....
  #5  
09-08-2007, 10:09 AM
diamond_06_06
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How do you know who it is?
  #6  
09-08-2007, 10:52 AM
diamond_06_06
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Nevermind Arkadiy I see how. hehe
  #7  
09-08-2007, 11:29 AM
protoskull
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yikes
  #8  
09-08-2007, 5:08 PM
unlucky
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If this is Mr lasky on sharkscope he's in the negative 704 bucks so either this is junk or he just got it but I would tend to lean toward its junk
  #9  
09-08-2007, 5:09 PM
arkadiy
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Originally Posted by unlucky View Post
If this is Mr lasky on sharkscope he's in the negative 704 bucks so either this is junk or he just got it but I would tend to lean toward its junk
Yes that is him, and that is why I stated his name....
  #10  
09-08-2007, 5:17 PM
Egon Towst
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Must be a scam. If this really worked, why would the programmers tell the world about it ? Surely they would keep it a closely-guarded secret and use their edge to quietly clean up.

Still, if you want to believe, Hugo, go ahead and buy it. A fool and his money........
  #11  
09-08-2007, 5:30 PM
arkadiy
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You have to remember one thing in poker, a real "cheat" software would make you thousands of dollars. Why would someone sell it for so cheap? And now pokerstars / other poker rooms get a chance to have it hands-on and learn how to fix this. It's a scam, footage that was later edited with the think added is my best guess :\
  #12  
09-08-2007, 5:42 PM
JacksRwild63
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What bothers me, is that people would consider buying it. Kinda means you'd cheat if ya could. hmmmm.........nuff said
  #13  
09-08-2007, 5:49 PM
Wlokos
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Yeah, they wouldn't be advertising it on youtube. They wouldn't have to sell it at all, it'd be most profitable (ignoring all moral obligation) to keep it secretly to themselves and make the money that way.
  #14  
09-08-2007, 5:50 PM
MrSticker
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OK, I'm watching it now. What it does is try to predict what the next flop will be. Also, it tries to guess an opponent's cards but the "opp results" doesn't say which opponent.

So it is not terribly accurate. It usually only guesses 2 of the 3 flop cards correctly and rarely gets the suits right of any of the cards. Also, most of the time, it shows a really poor hand for "opp results" and a better hand could be out there undetected.

As it works at it's best, I see this as no threat as it has its limitations and can actually be a detriment to the user as it often makes incorrect predictions. Just look at "Mr.Lasky's" stats. LOL
  #15  
09-08-2007, 5:54 PM
MrSticker
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$400??? LMAO!!!
  #16  
09-08-2007, 5:56 PM
arkadiy
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Originally Posted by MrSticker View Post
OK, I'm watching it now. What it does is try to predict what the next flop will be. Also, it tries to guess an opponent's cards but the "opp results" doesn't say which opponent.

So it is not terribly accurate. It usually only guesses 2 of the 3 flop cards correctly and rarely gets the suits right of any of the cards. Also, most of the time, it shows a really poor hand for "opp results" and a better hand could be out there undetected.

As it works at it's best, I see this as no threat as it has its limitations and can actually be a detriment to the user as it often makes incorrect predictions. Just look at "Mr.Lasky's" stats. LOL
It shows 3 of 5 cards, not just flop. It always predicts this correctly (saying it was real). Opponents results randomly chooses 1 opponent and gets his cards and only shows the suite of 1 of his cards.

It is not terribly accurate but it is still something very very bad. I am sure it's a scam though....
  #17  
09-08-2007, 5:57 PM
Freakakanus
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Originally Posted by HugoBAces View Post
Is this thing real???

YouTube - PokerRNG 6.0 Poker Software on Poker Stars

was browsing for some chip tricks videos to practice for my trip to vegas soon and saw this video. Is this thing real or am I seeing this wrong?? Please confirm i am about to buy this thing tonight!!!

Don't even need to watch this.....love how you are ready to jump on the cheating bandwagon though.....nice......... since when did Cardschat turn into Cheaterchat anyway? This place is starting to take a nosedive real quick......
  #18  
09-08-2007, 6:00 PM
combuboom
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Originally Posted by Freakakanus View Post
Don't even need to watch this.....love how you are ready to jump on the cheating bandwagon though.....nice......... since when did Cardschat turn into Cheaterchat anyway? This place is starting to take a nosedive real quick......
huh? the only guy who showed interest in purchase was the OP and he has 1 post..

anyway, pretty sure an sng was recorded and then the little pokerrng control panel was added in after the fact. there's about a 0% chance this actually works
  #19  
09-08-2007, 6:00 PM
spliff19
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cheating

i would rather see the cards coming up. i hope this is not true it would ruin internet poker
  #20  
09-08-2007, 6:05 PM
MrSticker
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Here's some discussion on another forum about PokerRNG:

Forum : PokerRNG, I play 7534 hands and I see some progress (SCAM?) :: Online Poker Forum :: pokerjunkie.com
  #21  
09-08-2007, 6:08 PM
MrSticker
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Originally Posted by MrSticker View Post
Here's some discussion on another forum about PokerRNG:

Forum : PokerRNG, I play 7534 hands and I see some progress (SCAM?) :: Online Poker Forum :: pokerjunkie.com
And another:

The 2+2 Forums: POKERRNG is this $h!t for REAL???
  #22  
09-08-2007, 6:13 PM
MrSticker
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Here's the "manual" for it. Lots of gobble-dee-gook:

RNG Manual
  #23  
09-08-2007, 6:14 PM
Goldog
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OP probably is posting this as a marketing ploy. Put it up, and hope someone here bites.
  #24  
09-08-2007, 6:29 PM
combuboom
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hell, i wouldn't mind if someone bites and wastes their $400 on this. the guy behind the site may be a scammer, but at least he's got initiative. the only people he's taking advantage of are the lowlife cheaters who'd be horribly stupid, desperate, and immoral enough to buy and believe in such a product
  #25  
09-08-2007, 7:15 PM
joeeagles
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Originally Posted by combuboom View Post
the only people he's taking advantage of are the lowlife cheaters who'd be horribly stupid, desperate, and immoral enough to buy and believe in such a product

I don't think I'm wrong if I say that this covers a good 75% of the gambling population. Most people would take advantage of any edge w/o thinking twice about it. So its a well thought scam.
  #26  
09-08-2007, 7:25 PM
Tigersmith
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yea..this is crazy lol
  #27  
09-08-2007, 7:46 PM
Thewebmaster
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This is nothing new

Hi all,
I'm amazed that people seem surprised at this, for years i've been joined to different poker newsletters etc...i've received lots of spam/scam emails which advertise poker cheating software, and that goes back at least 3yrs with this type of software, some claim to be able to tell the community cards while others claim to be able to tell all other players hole cards. I've always just binned them.
I did read an article once stating one of these pieces of cheating software did actually work but only on certain sites, usually a site you've never heard of or a site that actually has a bad rep already. Just another way of people taking advantage of gullible people and making a killing in the process.

Tony
  #28  
09-08-2007, 7:57 PM
arkadiy
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You know what's funny? After he made this topic he hasn't even signed on since, lol
  #29  
09-08-2007, 9:38 PM
robwhufc
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You know what's funny? After he made this topic he hasn't even signed on since, lol
That's because he's not asking a real question, he's advertising it.
  #30  
09-08-2007, 9:44 PM
robwhufc
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Originally Posted by MrSticker View Post
OK, I'm watching it now. What it does is try to predict what the next flop will be. Also, it tries to guess an opponent's cards but the "opp results" doesn't say which opponent.

So it is not terribly accurate. It usually only guesses 2 of the 3 flop cards correctly and rarely gets the suits right of any of the cards. Also, most of the time, it shows a really poor hand for "opp results" and a better hand could be out there undetected.

As it works at it's best, I see this as no threat as it has its limitations and can actually be a detriment to the user as it often makes incorrect predictions. Just look at "Mr.Lasky's" stats. LOL
Wouldn't it be just slightly more likely the PokerRNG graphic was added AFTER the match was played, and he already knew what the cards were?
  #31  
09-08-2007, 10:01 PM
arkadiy
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Originally Posted by robwhufc View Post
That's because he's not asking a real question, he's advertising it.

I think that's what I was implying?
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