poker bot or what??

I was playing $15 turbo SNG's on pokerstars last night, I've been noticing one player always seems to be in a lot of the games I was in.
Out of curiosity, i ran his name on "find player".

This guy was playing in over 40 tournaments at the same time!
No way a person can play that many games at once!
I made a few comments at the table about playing 40 games-no reply.

About an hour later I ran "find player" again-came up player not found!
either he pulled out or blocked his name.

WTF???

IMO it is absolutely stupid to play 40 tables, but it can be done. Then again it could be a bot.

I will choose "what" option.

the guy is on the leaderboard & has over $10,000 profit!

This could be a bot, but more likely was that it was Hevad Khan lol.

YouTube - 26 Sit&Gos RainKhan

Ae you sure that all of the tourns that he/it was in were going on at that time?

I can't be sure they all were but i went to a few & they were playing.

Hevad Khan has done it.If you don't know who he is he played at the WSOP main event.They suspended his account until he proved to them it was actually him playing.

Personally I have never met anyone who plays more than 5 at once.I won't even venture into 2 myself.Point is it can be done,and I think if anyone had a good NL bot they wouldn't be so greedy as to play 40 tables at once.

Edit:By the time got got to finish my post I see others have already responded.What I said still stands though.

It can be done, and obviously with profit--$10K shows that. As for him repsonding to your chat....I doubt he has a lot of time for idle chatter playing 40 boards.

I've seen the video of Khan doing 26 and it was insane. I'd say very few people could do that, let alone 40. Smells like a bot. You could report the player doing 40, just to see what happens.

was it thevenetian or spacegravy or something? those guys are multitabling monsters, not bots.

the guys name is d-jarl. did some googling (new verb?).
He's from sweden, computer guru, writes multi-tabling software.
dam'n good at it i guess.

problem solved-no bots under the bed
LOL

Uh, "computer guru, writes multi-tabling software" doesn't sound like a bot developer to you?

sounds like a bot to me.

He's probably just got scripts for autoreloading, betting pot etc. I doubt PS would let him continue multitabling if that information's available through a simple google search.

i.e. bots, lol

I use an autoreload script. Am I a bot?

So does pretty much every 8+table multitabling player...

Where can i find on of those? I play up to 6 tables and its so annoying to keep manually rebuying.

Technically, yes. Thats what a bot is. Its a script that performs actions that otherwise would require human intervention.

I know you may find it disappointing, but there are no mechanical poker playing robots involved.

Maybe your part-automation just makes you a cyborg!

I don't know how anyone can play in more than 2 tourneys at a time,even playing 2, you can't possibly concentrate fully on both.

I watched the WSOP & that Hevad Khan is a real idiot,carries on like a Richard Cranium

A script does not necessarily = bot. They're allowed (or at least overlooked) by most sites whereas bots (completely automated) are not. I guess we could argue semantics about what a bot is; I'd say it is a program (poss a script) that automates everything so that there's NO human intervention.

With scripts you're still sitting there, telling the script when to bet pot, or half pot, or 2/3 etc, and when to fold. The only script I use that is completely automated is the reload script. What a disadvantage I put my opponents at by automatically reloading my stack

Practice makes perfect. I remember not even thinking of trying more than one table. I'm now 8-tabling and am looking to buy a second monitor so I can get even more jammed in.

If you multi-table then obviously you cant concentrate on all tables fully. But, you don't need to be able to fully concentrate on all tables. What would you rather do? Play one table to the best of your ability and have a nice winrate? Or, play 4 tables and even if your winrate was cut in half, you would still make more money each day.

Well, keep kidding yourself but with your auto-reload bot (), your PT and your HUD all running while you play, you are on the fine line of the slippery slope already.

In fact, as far as I'm concerned you are only one step removed from this guy. How long until you start thinking like him?

I posted that link before, here's another related article. For everyone's information, the main anti-bot measure that sites are using today is to send those funny lettered codes (turing? or something like that) every now and then to a suspected bot player, i.e. someone playing long hours without breaks, the player must enter the code in order to continue playing, if they don't respond then the account or session gets suspended. Apparently, bots aren't able to decipher and respond to these promptings. But in reality that just means that bot operators must now remain physically present while their bots are playing so that they can respond when required, not much of a deterrent really, especially if they have a profitable bot. Some sites scan your PC for known bot software but that would be easy to circumvent too.

I don't decide someone's a bot based on how quiet they are or how many tables are open. Mind you bots generally don't talk, but when their masters show up to check on things they do. And when their masters decide they can outplay everyone at a table they haven't even been watching then lose a huge percentage of their stack, whoa baby do they ever have hissy-fits.

So I go by their general behavior in a game. What hands they play and how. Also their timing. Humans don't have that really consistent timing of tick-tick-tick-fold, or WHOOSH!-ALL-IN!

Humans use the little buttons. You know what I'm talking about, where u can decide your actions in advance. I guess they're called advance action buttons or some such. Point is they use them, so their folds are faster. Another thing I noticed is that generally a human's all-in is slower than a bot's. They act in reverse. A human has to mull over if they really want to risk all their chips on a hand. Bot's don't have to mull anything over.

I haven't the foggiest how long it takes for a bot to calculate which hands to play, but that might have a lot to do with their tick-tick-tick-folding. They do play a limited # of hands, and their behavior's very predictable.


At any rate, best thing you can do is try to get in the swing of the bot's behavior. It changes from level to level. All-in at the lowest level is basically 5 times the big blind a level up(I suspect that's why raising 5 times the BB works so well in freerolls but have no proof). Also know that some are programmed to protect their blinds with certain hands(means u the human has to be extra careful when a bot's blinded).

Oh and don't show your hands. Even on it's worst day a bot's a great spy if nothing else.

To what? Making like 8 times the winrate you do by playing one table?

I'm not using anything that isn't allowed by the terms and conditions of PS, just taking advantage of every tool I possibly can to get the best winrate I can. Have fun single tabling :/

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Ok, so it seems we're taking the 12 year old feces-throwing route then...

Seriously, if you're allowed to use these scripts, analysis tools and heads up display programs, all of which help to make you more money and improve your game and all of which are available to the anyone, then why would you ever consider not using them?

Please give

yes i heard khan does this "HOLD" LOL

I myself like 1 table because I honestly like to see what style of player Im up against. With 5 or more tables you do nothing but play starting hand ranks and the flops strong. You never see a slow roller and thats the main issue with multi table. I myself have tried it and always lose my ass as it puts me into a betting frenzy, and makes me nervous. Not a good move for someone like me who has a pitbull mentality. Anyways Im up for the year big time and thats all that matters. Merry Christmas everyone and a happy new year!!!! Lets make some more money this year!!!