Poker Blind Spot

#1 21st December 2011, 12:41 PM

Hi All,

I seem to have developed a blind spot in my game. It has caught me out at least three decent sized pots in the last month or so.

It happens when I have a pocket pair, ie TT JJ 99 etc and the board comes say 483.

I have an overpair to the board, but then get caught by someone with a bigger pocket pair. My 99 beaten by JJ, my JJ beaten by QQ etc etc.

I raise a decent amount, the person might re-raise, i typically come over the top and then get snapped off.

Dont even know what sort of help to ask for but this is starting to annoy me......

CuttleFish

I never seem to see it coming.

#2 21st December 2011, 12:53 PM

Post specific situations in which this occured. Post a few if it helps.

#3 21st December 2011, 6:58 PM

Know your opponent. In your example, 99 isn't the best hand to push all in on, you are behind a lot of hands. QQ nearly falls into this category as well.

For example, you lead preflop with QQ and get raised by the rock in seat 4 that has played 2 hands in 2 hours. Be very afraid.

#4 21st December 2011, 7:08 PM

Losing 3 pots in a month with overpair vs. overpair sounds like you are running really well.

#5 21st December 2011, 8:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baudib1

Losing 3 pots in a month with overpair vs. overpair sounds like you are running really well.

yah.. no kidding.

OP, what scenario is this in? (tourneys? what level, etc., cashgame?)

#6 22nd December 2011, 6:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiZZiM

Post specific situations in which this occured. Post a few if it helps.

^ this. There are plenty of situations where stacking in these spots is standard, and playing your overpairs scared of an even bigger overpair every time is just stupid.

#7 22nd December 2011, 7:54 AM

This one happened to me yesterday:

2/5 NL live cash game

Short handed, 5 players

BTN: $ 500
SB: $200
BB $ 220
UTG $ 180
Hero $ 210

Pre-flop Hero has JJ.
\UTG folds
Hero raises to $25
BTN folds
SB folds
BB (Villain) calls.

Flop is 3 7 9 rainbow.

BB checks
Hero bets $25 (bad sized bet? think it looked weak)
Villain BB raises to $50
Hero goes all-n
Villain calls and shows QQ

I think his check on the flop threw me? He seemed like he knew what he was doing so I assumed he would have raised with a decent pp, thats why I didnt put him on it. I read it that he was reading my $25 as weak and trying to push me off the hand.

#8 22nd December 2011, 7:56 AM

this is one example from yesterday but it is pretty much exactly the same situation that has caught me out a few times lately.

If it is just standard, then no big deal. It just feels to me like I am missing something.

#9 22nd December 2011, 7:59 AM

buy in for at least 100 BBs.

with little more than a pot-sized bet left you are felting an overpair especially vs. lolliveament players.

If you're playing full ring online NL10 and a 4/0 nit calls from the sb vs. your UTG open you can pretty safely b/f the 725r flop with QQ but here, with no 3-bet pre it's pretty much impossible to put the guy on QQ+ unless he was a total retardo nit (these players do in fact exist in live games)

#10 22nd December 2011, 8:13 AM

hi baudib, thanks.

so you think me not being topped up to 100BBs was significant here? It did feel that way as I didnt have a lot of moves left. Actually now i think of it, this has been the same for all the ones that have annoyed me..........

Excellent point, thanks.

btw, what does "felting" mean?

#11 22nd December 2011, 8:15 AM

shoving, pushing, shipping it, i.e. putting all your chips in the middle so there's naught but felt in front of you.

#12 23rd December 2011, 4:12 PM

Just don't get "felted" - nothing but felt left - no more chips

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